News Article: Statement from the Ottawa Senators regarding Eugene Melnyk - MOD Warnings-#9 & #143

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Courty

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This was what I was getting at. To come out and ask a stranger to donate part of a vital organ I think there needs to be 100% honesty in why. The only thing that is being said is "he needs it now or he will die". If it were a result of bad luck I think he would only get sympathy but if it were a case of reckless behavior I'm not sure he gets the same kind of empathy. There were his staff and doctors on the panel but anything about the illness was left to his actual doctors.

And that`s exactly why subjective empathy has no place in medical ethics. I understand that the general public can have a different perspective when it comes to these situations, but that`s why not everyone should become doctors or surgeons.

At the end of the day whatever caused the onset of his illness, or any other person in need of an organ donation, is irrelevant when it comes to saving their life.
 

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And that`s exactly why subjective empathy has no place in medical ethics. I understand that the general public can have a different perspective when it comes to these situations, but that`s why not everyone should become doctors or surgeons.

At the end of the day whatever caused the onset of his illness, or any other person in need of an organ donation, is irrelevant when it comes to saving their life.
So why not be 100% honest with the public then? Mike MacDonald was honest and recieved much backlash but in the end he was given a new lease on life. I don't think knowing why is a bad thing.
 

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Man, this is depressing. I've been busy and haven't read as much as I'd like, but the wording of the presser seems to imply he needs a transplant to live ASAP. As in, death is otherwise imminent.

That true?
 

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Man, this is depressing. I've been busy and haven't read as much as I'd like, but the wording of the presser seems to imply he needs a transplant to live ASAP. As in, death is otherwise imminent.

That true?

The team said that two weeks from now might be too late. Even a week might be to late.

 

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Man, this is depressing. I've been busy and haven't read as much as I'd like, but the wording of the presser seems to imply he needs a transplant to live ASAP. As in, death is otherwise imminent.

That true?

Pretty much....
 

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Here's an update for this morning:

- The response has been very good, with over 1,000 calls received and numerous applications sent to the Donor Transplant Team in Toronto.

- The organization continues to ask those who are interested in completing an application to be a live donor for Mr. Melnyk to please fax their completed donor form today given the urgent situation.

- The organization is receiving a large number of calls from well-wishers for Mr. Melnyk and his family and while we greatly appreciate the expression of support, we are hoping to leave the phone lines open for those that are trying to complete and submit their donor application.

Contact info and donor forms are all included in the link above.
 

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So why not be 100% honest with the public then? Mike MacDonald was honest and recieved much backlash but in the end he was given a new lease on life. I don't think knowing why is a bad thing.

You're right, it's not a bad thing to know. But he has chosen not to disclose that information, and people need to respect that. Maybe that information will become privy to the potential donor? But regardless, the point is the reason for his illness should not sway people who are willing to donate to save his life.
 

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You're right, it's not a bad thing to know. But he has chosen not to disclose that information, and people need to respect that. Maybe that information will become privy to the potential donor? But regardless, the point is the reason for his illness should not sway people who are willing to donate to save his life.


this thread is depressing for the wrong reasons, the lack of empathy within our own fanbase is disgusting. If not for this guy, there would be no hf Sens forum for you to come and ***** and moan on.
 

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this thread is depressing for the wrong reasons, the lack of empathy within our own fanbase is disgusting. If not for this guy, there would be no hf Sens forum for you to come and ***** and moan on.

I havent seen anyone who doesnt feel bad or sympathetic. Asking questions as to why he needs it might seem insensitive but they are also relevant to a potential donor. Right or wrong they are fair questions to somebody who is risking their quality of life to help another.

My opinion on it anyways.
 

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As a leaf fan who recently moved to Ottawa, I've never been a big fan of Melnyk's...that being said, you wouldn't wish this on anyone. I sincerely hope Mr. Melnyk finds a donor in time
 

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I havent seen anyone who doesnt feel bad or sympathetic. Asking questions as to why he needs it might seem insensitive but they are also relevant to a potential donor. Right or wrong they are fair questions to somebody who is risking their quality of life to help another.

My opinion on it anyways.

time and place to ask those questions. This is certainly not the place to ask those questions. If you're a potential donor, you shouldn't be asking the questions on a message board, but to the medical practitioners or Mr. Melnyk. To speculate on here as to why he needs a liver, and for some (not saying you) to suggest or consider it was due to self-harm (i.e. alcohol abuse) is potential defamation and ultimately wholly unnecessary in the spirit of the thread.
 

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time and place to ask those questions. This is certainly not the place to ask those questions. If you're a potential donor, you shouldn't be asking the questions on a message board, but to the medical practitioners or Mr. Melnyk. To speculate on here as to why he needs a liver, and for some (not saying you) to suggest or consider it was due to self-harm (i.e. alcohol abuse) is potential defamation and ultimately wholly unnecessary in the spirit of the thread.

Welcome to Earth: Where the victim is always at fault
 

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I havent seen anyone who doesnt feel bad or sympathetic. Asking questions as to why he needs it might seem insensitive but they are also relevant to a potential donor. Right or wrong they are fair questions to somebody who is risking their quality of life to help another.

My opinion on it anyways.

I'm just curious for the sake of being nosy. I see it as a question that most people would ask when talking about the situation face to face with one another I don't see how it's insensitive or any different. I doubt there's one person on here who doesn't wish him well.
 

PeterSidorkiewicz

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time and place to ask those questions. This is certainly not the place to ask those questions. If you're a potential donor, you shouldn't be asking the questions on a message board, but to the medical practitioners or Mr. Melnyk. To speculate on here as to why he needs a liver, and for some (not saying you) to suggest or consider it was due to self-harm (i.e. alcohol abuse) is potential defamation and ultimately wholly unnecessary in the spirit of the thread.

So what you're saying is a message board is held to different standards than what people converse about on a day to day basis?
 

DrunkUncleDenis

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So much illness and death surrounding us lately, both on a personal level, and within the more public affairs I care deeply about (ie Sens).

Sometimes the world sucks. Get well, Mr. Melnyk. You saved our team, you've contributed millions to our community, and you deserve a selfless human to step up to bat for you.
 

OgieO

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Does anyone here know what the odds are of an AB blood type (I think that's what they said his was) finding a suitable donor?
 

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Ok so I would give him a part of mine whatever the reasons I think he deserves to live. Been a big sports guy my whole life played some QMJHL games and stuff I am 6"2' and 190lbs great health but my blood type is AB- , do I match? I'd like someone to help me because I understand what you write but when it comes to medical terms in english I get lost. Also if I am in MTL can I do it? I'd like to know if I match before filling out the 12 pages thing

Though year with Murray Reeds now Melnyk and I lost a great friend in January who was only 23... Cheers 2015
 

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The Earth is often filled with thought processes such as this. Me-first attitudes. It's the sad state we live in.

But he wants to free the oppressed!

I agree; when I thought he was a kid it was acceptable but he's actually an adult.
 
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DrunkUncleDenis

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Ok so I would give him a part of mine whatever the reasons I think he deserves to live. Been a big sports guy my whole life played some QMJHL games and stuff I am 6"2' and 190lbs great health but my blood type is AB- , do I match? I'd like someone to help me because I understand what you write but when it comes to medical terms in english I get lost. Also if I am in MTL can I do it? I'd like to know if I match before filling out the 12 pages thing

Call the Sens. (613) 599-0100

http://senators.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=105652
 
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