Movies: Star Wars: Rogue One Part II Release date Dec 14th

[Jussi]

It does not sound like they ever made a movie where any of them survived. This all sounds like it happened pretty early on in the development.

I agree with the other guy. That kind of thing developing around Rogue One should give more creative license to do different things with future Star Wars movies. That was a lot of the hope for many of us surrounding the admission of TFA's faults in having so much in common with other Star Wars movies. For me, TFA was almost entirely intended to be a palette cleanser, freeing up future movies from the weight of the prequels. If this story about Rogue One is accurate as portrayed, that's basically what's happened.

Actually since it's been confirmed the reshoots included a different ending, it looks like Jynn and Cassian survided, or atleast were running on the beach, in the original version.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I think Giacchino only had like a month to score the soundtrack.

It was 3 months he had.

 

[Tawnos]

Actually since it's been confirmed the reshoots included a different ending, it looks like Jynn and Cassian survided, or atleast were running on the beach, in the original version.

No, it doesn't. A different ending isn't the same thing as them surviving. And them running along the beach doesn't mean they survived the run across the beach. Did you read the writers comments? These discussions all sound like they took place before they shot the thing.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is why I say they picked the wrong antagonist. This movie SHOULD have been the "what's Vader been up to between 3 and 4" movie. He should have been the main antagonist. Nobody would have been upset by it.

The only thing it would have done is made it seem like it WAS episode 3, 3 was 2, 2 was 1, and 1 didn't exist. Would anybody actually be upset by that though?

They can still make a movie about what Vader did in the 20 years in between. Maybe a titled "Rise of the Empire: a Star Wars story" where they go into detail on what the emperor and Vader did in the years following the events of RotS. There is a lot of potential there. We will see a younger Vader, instead of a 40-ish year old Vader in the OT

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So what happened to the Bothans?

I thought the reason they got the Death Star plans was because of the Bothans. There were no Bothans in Rogue One. Did they just forget about them?

Edit: nvm. Mom Mothma said that in ROTJ. Whoops.

The Bothans died retrieving the plans for the 2nd Death Star, whic was destroyed in RotJ

 

[Bures Elbow]

They can still make a movie about what Vader did in the 20 years in between. Maybe a titled "Rise of the Empire: a Star Wars story" where they go into detail on what the emperor and Vader did in the years following the events of RotS. There is a lot of potential there. We will see a younger Vader, instead of a 40-ish year old Vader in the OT

Ashoka being alive has to be addressed somehow, and this is a great way to go about it.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

The Bothans died retrieving the plans for the 2nd Death Star, whic was destroyed in RotJ

Cause Dash Rendar.

Shadows of the Empire was solid.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Is Rebels considered canon?

 

[Oxide]

Is Rebels considered canon?

It is

 

[Warden of the North]

Is Rebels considered canon?

Yes.

Any post Disney purchase (new!) content is canon.

 

[The Nemesis]

Is Rebels considered canon?

Official Star Wars Canon consists of the (to date) 8 movies (original trilogy, prequel trilogy, Force Awakens, and Rogue One), Rebels, and the CGI Clone Wars series (not the traditionally animated one). I'm not sure if they've done books or other content yet that is not directly tied around those things that would count as canon or not.

 

[Hivemind]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_canon

Yes, the Holiday Special is still canon.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I won't consider them canon unless they are in live action movies. Because screw everything else.

Saw it earlier today. Was a good movie. Had too many characters, Forest Whitaker was completely wasted for a useless character that didn't do anything, and Jyn's character arc didn't appear to make any sense. I get her wanting to find her father, but afterwards she is just down with the rebel cause because reasons?

The movie didn't have much heart and didn't give me many reasons to really be concerned about what was happening. They had a robot that had little quips, but was there any real moment that even compares to the Finn/BB8 thumbs up lighter scene in TFA?

To me, it was a movie with some fun action scenes and a cool little scene with Darth Vader, but it didn't feel like it had all that much meat to it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I won't consider them canon unless they are in live action movies. Because screw everything else.

Saw it earlier today. Was a good movie. Had too many characters, Forest Whitaker was completely wasted for a useless character that didn't do anything, and Jyn's character arc didn't appear to make any sense. I get her wanting to find her father, but afterwards she is just down with the rebel cause because reasons?

The movie didn't have much heart and didn't give me many reasons to really be concerned about what was happening. They had a robot that had little quips, but was there any real moment that even compares to the Finn/BB8 thumbs up lighter scene in TFA?

To me, it was a movie with some fun action scenes and a cool little scene with Darth Vader, but it didn't feel like it had all that much meat to it.

The thumbs up-lighter scene was just a thing done for a quick laugh. Just like Poe with his "Do I talk? Do you talk?" bit. I don't watch Star Wars movies for a quick laugh.

I loved Rogue One, because it has a much more serious story and approach than TFA.

 

[The Drop]

Average at best imo.

Mostly fan service. Kid gets orphaned, comes back as a badass and leads band of misfits to victory. Yawn.

Force awakens was prob a smidge Better

Edit: tarkin cgi was somewhat acceptable. But Leia... wow was that bad. Worse than Jeff Bridges in Tron

 

[ArGarBarGar]

The thumbs up-lighter scene was just a thing done for a quick laugh. Just like Poe with his "Do I talk? Do you talk?" bit. I don't watch Star Wars movies for a quick laugh.

I loved Rogue One, because it has a much more serious story and approach than TFA.

The Star Wars universe is supposed to have those kind of light hearted moments. The scene brings about the character of Finn, and his interaction with BB8 gives us a bit of a break from the action sequence we had seen previously.

Even a movie that has a grittier tone has some heart to it. I didn't feel like there was any of that in RO. Between action scenes there is exposition or people being made to look sad or angry at the current situation. And K2-SO having a quip or two.

 

[Tawnos]

I won't consider them canon unless they are in live action movies. Because screw everything else.

You don't get to make that decision.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

You don't get to make that decision.

When it comes to what I will personally accept? Sure I do. It doesn't matter, either way.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You don't get to make that decision.

Well, he can decide to think that for himself, but it won't mean anything to anyone else. I am happy they decided to include TCW

 

[Hivemind]

Why come into a thread to ask if something is canon if you weren't going to accept the answer?

 

[Tawnos]

When it comes to what I will personally accept? Sure I do. It doesn't matter, either way.

True that it doesn't matter, but this is the heart of "everyone's opinion matters" manifesting at its worst. You get the decide whether or not you like something, not whether or not something is in the reality of whomevers vision is creating the art (if you want to call that) which you experience.

In this particular instance, in your view, Saw Gerreras backstory doesn't exist. That's patently absurd. You may not care to learn his backstory and that's your decision. That doesn't mean it isn't there.

In other words, you're entitled to accept or not accept whatever you want. And I'm going to call it the BS that it is.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Actually since it's been confirmed the reshoots included a different ending, it looks like Jynn and Cassian survided, or atleast were running on the beach, in the original version.

They probably tried something other than giving up and sitting around waiting to die.

Since we're out of spoilers, I was personally more affected by the Logan trailer at the beginning than any of their deaths, for a variety of reasons ( one of them being I'm also a sucker for "Hurt" by Johnny cash). I'm usually a sucker for this stuff, yet the dramatic end scene all I can think is, " oh dear God please don't kiss, please don't kiss, there is no reason please please don't kiss". More shocked they had the stones to kill everyone off rather than actual sadness or pathos at their killings.

 

[johnjm22]

I won't consider them canon unless they are in live action movies. Because screw everything else.

Saw it earlier today. Was a good movie. Had too many characters, Forest Whitaker was completely wasted for a useless character that didn't do anything, and Jyn's character arc didn't appear to make any sense. I get her wanting to find her father, but afterwards she is just down with the rebel cause because reasons?

The movie didn't have much heart and didn't give me many reasons to really be concerned about what was happening. They had a robot that had little quips, but was there any real moment that even compares to the Finn/BB8 thumbs up lighter scene in TFA?

To me, it was a movie with some fun action scenes and a cool little scene with Darth Vader, but it didn't feel like it had all that much meat to it.

If the movie "didn't have much heart" and didn't give many reasons to really be concerned about what was happening, then how is it a good movie?

The main characters in Rogue One are boring. The only thing that saves it, is that it exists in the SW universe which means we get to see cool stuff like death troopers, x-wings, star destroyers ect. Aside from that it's a very generic action/war movie.

The only reason this movie is getting good reviews is because it's Star Wars. People are in denial. It's not very good.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Why come into a thread to ask if something is canon if you weren't going to accept the answer?

Oh my god I was mainly saying it in jest. I don't care for the things that aren't the general live action movies and I was making a flippant comment. Not really that big of a deal, guys.

The original question was out of curiosity.

If the movie "didn't have much heart" and didn't give many reasons to really be concerned about what was happening, then how is it a good movie?

The main characters in Rogue One are boring. The only thing that saves it, is that it exists in the SW universe which means we get to see cool stuff like death troopers, x-wings, star destroyers ect. Aside from that it's a very generic action/war movie.

The only reason this movie is getting good reviews is because it's Star Wars. People are in denial. It's not very good.

Because the action was well done and there were aspects of the characters that I liked. It had a lot of flaws but I felt entertained coming out of the movie. From a critical perspective I wouldn't give it a high score, but I'm not a movie critic, I'm a consumer.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The only reason this movie is getting good reviews is because it's Star Wars. People are in denial. It's not very good.

This was the least Star Wars-like movie in the franchise. If this movie is getting good reviews, it is not because of some jedi/lightsaber fanservice but because it was actually a good movie. It shows the other side of the war. The peasants-side, if you will, instead of just focusing on the Jedi and Sith, or the royalty.