Online Series: Star Trek Strange New Worlds Season 2 (LOWER DECK CROSSOVER ALERT)

[Lshap]

I think that it's mostly his Gumby hair this season which looks a little too "pretty," especially for a rancher who didn't care how he looked at the very start of the season.

I'd prefer to believe this is a futuristic anti-gravity version of the man-bun.

Makes me wonder what future technology has in store for baldness. Notwithstanding Picard's cool dome, maybe they could invent... wait for it... The Holo-Graft.

 

[Guardian17]

This episode was enjoyable.

Surprised when they mentioned Spock's sister she didn't show up to save the Enterprise and negotiate a peace treaty with the Gorn while simultaneously performing surgery on Number One's wounds!

 

[Blender]

Latest episode was a bit goofy, but that is what they were going for and I enjoyed it overall. I enjoyed the diplomatic plot and the La'an and Number One plots more than the Spock/T'Pring plot.

I still really appreciate the overall tone of the show so far, it's such a massive improvement over other recent series.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Latest episode was a bit goofy, but that is what they were going for and I enjoyed it overall. I enjoyed the diplomatic plot and the La'an and Number One plots more than the Spock/T'Pring plot.

I still really appreciate the overall tone of the show so far, it's such a massive improvement over other recent series.

Like on the OG series--I got the trouble with Tribbles vibe from the episode. The one thing star trek has lost is the fact it takes itself too seriously and it was nice to see them show they still have a sense of humour. Lets face facts Khan and Number one are a bit too tightly wound and letting them have come fun was nice to see. Even if it came like it was a rejected idea from below decks

 

[Guardian17]

That episode captured Roddenberry's "hopeful future vibe" that has been missed in Discovery and Picard.

 

[Blender]

That episode captured Roddenberry's "hopeful future vibe" that has been missed in Discovery and Picard.

The whole plot with the alien species that works on radical empathy was really good, as was Pike's speeches at the ends about it. I didn't catch on until he said it, but it made sense afterwards. At the start of the episode they are direct to the point and down to business because the only person they had interacted with was La'an. As soon as they meet Pike they start being friendly, then with Spock they are logical.

 

[Blender]

Another thing to add about SNW so far is that La'an and Una are what they tried to do with a lot of the Discovery cast but horribly failed at. La'an and Una are both very serious and direct people, but they are not assholes and they are not demeaning. They clearly care a lot of about the crew and the people they are responsible for, and make efforts to show that when needed. Most of the crew when I watched Discovery were just outright shitty people, they constantly insulted each other and a lot of the interactions were demeaning to their fellow crew. Nothing about it seemed professional.

 

[Jussi]

Another thing to add about SNW so far is that La'an and Una are what they tried to do with a lot of the Discovery cast but horribly failed at. La'an and Una are both very serious and direct people, but they are not assholes and they are not demeaning. They clearly care a lot of about the crew and the people they are responsible for, and make efforts to show that when needed. Most of the crew when I watched Discovery were just outright shitty people, they constantly insulted each other and a lot of the interactions were demeaning to their fellow crew. Nothing about it seemed professional.

I don't recall it being like that. Are you sure you're not mixing up the Mirror universe crew? At least the last two seasons, they were very supportive of each other.

 

[Blender]

I don't recall it being like that. Are you sure you're not mixing up the Mirror universe crew? At least the last two seasons, they were very supportive of each other.

I stopped watching after season 3 episode 2 or 3 because the show was terrible, but no I am not mixing up how things were in season 1 and 2. The crew were not nice people generally, and were constantly bickering.

 

[Jussi]

I stopped watching after season 3 episode 2 or 3 because the show was terrible, but no I am not mixing up how things were in season 1 and 2. The crew were not nice people generally, and were constantly bickering.

Yeah, a lot of that had to do with them being thrown into such difficult situations with minimal experience. They've worked out those issues in a mature ways, I think they even talked about it together.

 

[Guardian17]

I stopped watching after season 3 episode 2 or 3 because the show was terrible, but no I am not mixing up how things were in season 1 and 2. The crew were not nice people generally, and were constantly bickering.

Exactly.

This snarky attitude by the crew was the writer's effort to undermine Gene Roddenberry's hopeful future.

They don't understand Star Trek and just want to push their agenda.

Watch the first episode of The Orville New Horizons if you want a Star Trek show with intelligent writing that doesn't lecture or talk down to you.

 

[Jussi]

Exactly.

This snarky attitude by the crew was the writer's effort to undermine Gene Roddenberry's hopeful future.

They don't understand Star Trek and just want to push their agenda.

Watch the first episode of The Orville New Horizons if you want a Star Trek show with intelligent writing that doesn't lecture or talk down to you.

No, it was part of crew's character development. They're very much united now.

 

[Guardian17]

No, it was part of crew's character development. They're very much united now.

 

[Jussi]

And....? Also, since when is "Gene" considered a name only Roddenberry could have? That's like really reaching.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

This show is growing a lot on me. Despite some flaws, it finally feels like we have a proper Trek show (not counting the Orville lolll). Far superior to Picard and that trash STD.

 

[Jumptheshark]

This show is growing a lot on me. Despite some flaws, it finally feels like we have a proper Trek show (not counting the Orville lolll). Far superior to Picard and that trash STD.

I like how they are not just concentrating development on the main actors every episode.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

I like how they are not just concentrating development on the main actors every episode.

And the crew is mostly likeable. I don't hate any of them unlike STD where I hate just about everyone.
Also, the humor is not forced and

Spoiler

there is not always a happy ending as is the case in this week's episode.

 

[Jussi]

Great episode, probably the best one yet. Even RMB was impressed. He thought it was the best star Trek since Enterprise.

 

[Blender]

Another good episode.

The show is off to a really strong start. Anson Mount is killing it, as expected. Ethan Peck is doing a great job as Spock here, much better than the Zachary Quinto portrayal. Supporting characters are really strong so far and actually feel like real people. While I would have preferred something that was not a prequel, this is otherwise the Star Trek show I wanted.

Spoiler

Besides the twisted child sacrifice plot, it was pretty clear that Alora didn't actually understand Pike. She thought he would join her society to escape his fate, but if being maimed for life means he saves 5 cadets, he chooses that every single time.

 

[Guardian17]

Another excellent episode.

I am enjoying how Uhura is being portrayed.

If this were Discovery, she'd be promoted to First Officer by now.

On Strange New Worlds she is a capable cadet making the most of her opportunities.

Seems like the writers are learning that rank has to be earned, not bestowed.

 

[Jussi]

Another excellent episode.

I am enjoying how Uhura is being portrayed.

If this were Discovery, she'd be promoted to First Officer by now.

On Strange New Worlds she is a capable cadet making the most of her opportunities.

Seems like the writers are learning that rank has to be earned, not bestowed.

Blatant lie, for everyone reading.

 

[Guardian17]

Blatant lie, for everyone reading.

You're right, Uhura's a cadet, not an ensign, so Second Officer!

 

[johnjm22]

I enjoyed this episode.

I appreciate how grounded it felt. The writing, the acting, the dialog, it all had more believability to it. It wasn't filled with a bunch of quippy Marvel-esque dialog. Even nurse Chapel was acting like an adult in her short little scene.

They also managed to have likeable child characters. Often kids can be insufferable and annoying, but they were both well written and well acted.

There's been some criticism that this story was lifted from the short story "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas", but I'm fine with pulling inspiration from elsewhere, just not copying it. Star Trek has always had classic literary inspiration.

I like M'Benga. He feels the most realistic as a character. Like an actual doctor and there's a certain warmness to him. The setup with him and his daughter is nice.

This isn't a perfect episode. It's not a great episode. But it is a solid episode.

 

[johnjm22]

I have a bit of an issue with Pike's character.

He lacks agency. Stuff is always happening and he's just along for the ride.

He's always looking to make a joke or sarcastic comment even in serious situations.

 

[Jussi]

I have a bit of an issue with Pike's character.

He lacks agency. Stuff is always happening and he's just along for the ride.

He's always looking to make a joke or sarcastic comment even in serious situations.

I mean he knows his grim future. He chooses not to brood over it.