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Whenever he does anything, I just imagine him saying his own (last) name outloud in a low monotone voice...Lucic the ape on skates
Loo-cheech!
Man, this Stanley kid, I am really liking him.
Whenever he does anything, I just imagine him saying his own (last) name outloud in a low monotone voice...Lucic the ape on skates
Nsh would be crazy not to take it. I'd have Stanley off the table completely.Far... ?
How far... ?
Stanley plus our 1st this year... ?
I will be furious if Stanley comes out for Beaulieu.Stanley better not lose his roster position to Beau when he's healed up.......loving watching Stanley grow as a real solid NHL player before our eyes.
The fact we are still making posts like this makes me think we all realize it’s inevitable and we are pre-mourning.I will be furious if Stanley comes out for Beaulieu.
Boo is a dime a dozen defence-man you can find anywhere.
Interesting take here. I don’t know anything about this writer so he might be already viewed as a hack by the masses.
https://thehockeywriters.com/winnipeg-jets-demelo-stanley-seattle-kraken-expansion-draft/
Yeah, I feel like Stanley could potentially be the bait we dangle in getting a seasoned top 4 guy for the playoffs. That makes the road to the roster easier for Heinola and Samberg if its a rental.One thing to consider is that Stanley's play this season is very likely boosting his trade stock considerably. With Samberg and Heinola in the pipeline, an option would be to trade Stanley and protect DeMelo. Jets fans and media became a bit jaded about Stanley, but I'd bet there is a number of other NHL teams scouting him and willing to give him a chance to become a big, puck moving D with some bite in the #4-5 range.
Morrissey, Pionk and Stanley will be protected.
You'll have a much easier time finding another Demelo than another Stanley.
One thing to consider is that Stanley's play this season is very likely boosting his trade stock considerably. With Samberg and Heinola in the pipeline, an option would be to trade Stanley and protect DeMelo. Jets fans and media became a bit jaded about Stanley, but I'd bet there is a number of other NHL teams scouting him and willing to give him a chance to become a big, puck moving D with some bite in the #4-5 range.
The problem with trading Demelo is that you are trading away a guy who has experience and proven performance against elite players - so even if you get the top 4 wish list d guy in the deal, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. I think Heinola and Samberg make Stanley expendable.I hope Stanley is not considered as trade bait and I'd be surprised if he is.
The Jets do not spend this much time on developing players - especially Dmen who they desperately need, to turn them over to anther team.
I do get that we need another level of dman in the lineup but I can see them possibly moving pcs like DeMelo over their home grown players.
Based on Stan's progress, he might be as valuable as Samberg - and the Jets put a lot of effort into drafting him.
He's also exactly what they need - a big Dman who can move the puck and work the walls and the front of the net (where Pionk and JoMo struggle).
In the end, I see them protecting Stan - if we are able to pick up another Dman, I can see us protecting 4 -
If we are able to snag that top pairing dman, we likely give up a 1st and roster forward - Copp / Apples come to mind - possibly DeMelo but I don't know if our unprotected dmen stack up that well with what the rest of the league has to offer on the blueline. I see our depth at forward being the low hanging fruit for expansion teams.
Just a few thoughts that I'm tossing out their on a whim on a lazy Saturday morning -
In general, I agree. The issue is that the Jets have Heinola and Samberg in the pipeline (and Chisholm). Unless they move one of their LHD over to the right side they have 4 LD to fit into the line-up, and Stanley is the only one of those three prospects that needs to be protected in the expansion draft.I hope Stanley is not considered as trade bait and I'd be surprised if he is.
The Jets do not spend this much time on developing players - especially Dmen who they desperately need, to turn them over to anther team.
I do get that we need another level of dman in the lineup but I can see them possibly moving pcs like DeMelo over their home grown players.
Based on Stan's progress, he might be as valuable as Samberg - and the Jets put a lot of effort into drafting him.
He's also exactly what they need - a big Dman who can move the puck and work the walls and the front of the net (where Pionk and JoMo struggle).
In the end, I see them protecting Stan - if we are able to pick up another Dman, I can see us protecting 4 -
If we are able to snag that top pairing dman, we likely give up a 1st and roster forward - Copp / Apples come to mind - possibly DeMelo but I don't know if our unprotected dmen stack up that well with what the rest of the league has to offer on the blueline. I see our depth at forward being the low hanging fruit for expansion teams.
Just a few thoughts that I'm tossing out their on a whim on a lazy Saturday morning -
In general, I agree. The issue is that the Jets have Heinola and Samberg in the pipeline (and Chisholm). Unless they move one of their LHD over to the right side they have 4 LD to fit into the line-up, and Stanley is the only one of those three prospects that needs to be protected in the expansion draft.
The problem with trading Demelo is that you are trading away a guy who has experience and proven performance against elite players - so even if you get the top 4 wish list d guy in the deal, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. I think Heinola and Samberg make Stanley expendable.
Don't get me wrong, I've really loved Stanley and woud be happy to have him here long term and continue to watch his growth, but logically he could be the guy to deal to help us this year.
I tend to agree, but how hard would it be to find another DeMelo. They acquired him for a 3rd and were able to re-sign him as a UFA (so there must not have been huge competition). I like DeMelo a lot, but I'm not convinced that he's that rare if the Jets have the cap space to acquire a D of that profile.Stanley has played well in sheltered roles vs our Canadian division rivals... IMO he's not a long term top 4 guy tho... He's a good or capable 5 6 tho.
Demelo? He's a RHD... He can play in the top 4. Protecting a 5 6 LHD when you got Heinola Samberg Chisholm in the pipeline over a capable top 4 RHD when the only RHD prospect you have Is Gawanke... Yeah.. doesn't make sense.
Schmidt was traded for a 3rd and was worth much more so it happens. Demelo is far more ready and if as article says its all about winning now Demelo is better. I believe window is the future because we have so many young pieces now with only wheeler and schief as core pieces aging out. 3 years from now ehlers prime, perfetti etc. Can they better use the cap elsewhere as Stanley can't command more than a mil since such a small sample.I tend to agree, but how hard would it be to find another DeMelo. They acquired him for a 3rd and were able to re-sign him as a UFA (so there must not have been huge competition). I like DeMelo a lot, but I'm not convinced that he's that rare if the Jets have the cap space to acquire a D of that profile.
I'd really like to see DeMelo play a longer stretch with Morrissey, though. It would be good to have a bigger sample size of his play in that role. It's still mind-boggling that the Jets are playing Poolman over DeMelo in that role. It's a fairly strong indication that the Jets aren't as high on him as many fans and pundits. Frankly, I have no idea what they're looking at. It's almost as though they like the idea of Poolman, more than his performance, and are hoping he gets to where they imagine he can be.
He has proven his ignorance, imo. Sometimes you have to watch the Jets play to really weigh in on these things.Interesting take here. I don’t know anything about this writer so he might be already viewed as a hack by the masses.
https://thehockeywriters.com/winnipeg-jets-demelo-stanley-seattle-kraken-expansion-draft/
If it's about winning now, then we already have Stanley and Demelo (this season).Schmidt was traded for a 3rd and was worth much more so it happens. Demelo is far more ready and if as article says its all about winning now Demelo is better. I believe window is the future because we have so many young pieces now with only wheeler and schief as core pieces aging out. 3 years from now ehlers prime, perfetti etc. Can they better use the cap elsewhere as Stanley can't command more than a mil since such a small sample.
Also why protect stanley when he is going to be bumped by booboo because Mo is gonna mo.
Demelo is decent, but very inconsistent. He's an Ottawa reject who has the occasional good game but is prone to mistakes.I tend to agree, but how hard would it be to find another DeMelo. They acquired him for a 3rd and were able to re-sign him as a UFA (so there must not have been huge competition). I like DeMelo a lot, but I'm not convinced that he's that rare if the Jets have the cap space to acquire a D of that profile.
I'd really like to see DeMelo play a longer stretch with Morrissey, though. It would be good to have a bigger sample size of his play in that role. It's still mind-boggling that the Jets are playing Poolman over DeMelo in that role. It's a fairly strong indication that the Jets aren't as high on him as many fans and pundits. Frankly, I have no idea what they're looking at. It's almost as though they like the idea of Poolman, more than his performance, and are hoping he gets to where they imagine he can be.
I disagree with your assertion that he is not a long term top 4 guy. There is zero evidence to suggest that.Stanley has played well in sheltered roles vs our Canadian division rivals... IMO he's not a long term top 4 guy tho... He's a good or capable 5 6 tho.
Demelo? He's a RHD... He can play in the top 4. Protecting a 5 6 LHD when you got Heinola Samberg Chisholm in the pipeline over a capable top 4 RHD when the only RHD prospect you have Is Gawanke... Yeah.. doesn't make sense.
I tend to agree, but how hard would it be to find another DeMelo. They acquired him for a 3rd and were able to re-sign him as a UFA (so there must not have been huge competition). I like DeMelo a lot, but I'm not convinced that he's that rare if the Jets have the cap space to acquire a D of that profile.
I'd really like to see DeMelo play a longer stretch with Morrissey, though. It would be good to have a bigger sample size of his play in that role. It's still mind-boggling that the Jets are playing Poolman over DeMelo in that role. It's a fairly strong indication that the Jets aren't as high on him as many fans and pundits. Frankly, I have no idea what they're looking at. It's almost as though they like the idea of Poolman, more than his performance, and are hoping he gets to where they imagine he can be.
It’s good to see so many positive comments and Stanley’s development up to this point after so much negativity regarding the pick. He had some hick ups along the way with injuries but seems to have moved past them and I agree that I think the sky is the limit for this guy. He’s got a great, seeing eye shot (it has yet to seeing it way into the net though) but every shot is literally, right there and for a purpose, whether through a screen, a deflection or a fake shot/pass. He’s got great hands, is a good skater and as soon as he builds up that confidence and is given a bit more leash to open up the physicality, he will be an absolute beast to play against. He may not be a T2 defender, but I’ve always seen him as a second pair guy who can PK and grind out the other team. He is exactly what we need!
Is bort much faster? I don’t know.I looked at his performance *after* coming back from injury last year and pretty much wrote him off. The assumption is that if they come back, they should be recovered. He was not scoring but he was also playing poorly defensively, according to reports here, and very poor skating. I made a similar assumption about Josh Anderson when a lot of people here wanted to go after him. But he has rebounded pretty well for Habs this year.
Stanley is playing very well and still getting better. I still think his skating will hold him back on the 3rd pair, but I am keeping an open mind. He could work his way up to the 2nd pair. Who knows?
So far, he is a very pleasant surprise. He is doing what I wanted Samberg to do.
I've already eaten my crow. Twice.