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NyQuil said:
Tkachuk was a playoff choker until he wasn’t.

I think it has less to do with the team and more to do with his experience and maturity.

How many young guys dominate the post-season?

Sens fans will have to remember that if/when we make the post-season with a young Tim Stutzle.
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But but but... Brady has the "style" to succeed in the playoffs I was told.

When Brady struggles in the playoffs I wonder what those fans will say. I have a feeling that Stützle will be 10x more of a playoff performer than Brady.
 
Adrianopolous said:
But but but... Brady has the "style" to succeed in the playoffs I was told.

When Brady struggles in the playoffs I wonder what those fans will say. I have a feeling that Stützle will be 10x more of a playoff performer than Brady.
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Truly an unbelievable response. How you isolate Tkachuk here is mind boggling based on the post you just quoted.

If you actually can't recognize what style of play is effective right now and watch the Ottawa Senators on a consistent basis then come to this conclusion you quite clearly don't know what you're looking at.
 
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Adrianopolous said:
But but but... Brady has the "style" to succeed in the playoffs I was told.

When Brady struggles in the playoffs I wonder what those fans will say. I have a feeling that Stützle will be 10x more of a playoff performer than Brady.
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Wow, you're already trashing him before he's played a game in the post-season.

Impressive.
 
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NyQuil said:
Tkachuk was a playoff choker until he wasn’t.

I think it has less to do with the team and more to do with his experience and maturity.

How many young guys dominate the post-season?

Sens fans will have to remember that if/when we make the post-season with a young Tim Stutzle.
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playoff chocking can at times be a team thing.

The SENS 1998-2007
The Sharks 2002-2017
The Capitals 2006-2016
The Flames 2010-present
The Jets 2015-present
The Leafs 2004-present (less the collapse 5 or so years in the middle)

In all instances, these teams had great regular season teams that fizzled in the playoffs and their core players often fizzled points production wise.

off the 6 above, 3 rebounded for a trip to the final round. Only one went on to win a cup...

Playoff chocking can be a team thing.. that is why, you need to make changes... Best examples are Toronto sports teams... The Blue Jays late 1980's and sending away of George Bell et all... 2 Worlds series followed. And then the Raptors a few years ago.. goodbye DeRozin, hello Leonard and a championship. They assumed Kadri was an issue with the Leafs, then a cup and a prominent role with the Avs... all the while, the Leafs he left behind stank in the playoffs.

Render judgment on your team as early as possible... Do you have guys with killer instincts like Crosby and Malkin, Kane and Toews?. or do you have have Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau? Keep one, quickly get rid of the other. Crosby/Malkin went to a cup final in year 3.. they were 21/22 years old... Ditto for Kane/Toews.
 
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NyQuil said:
Wow, you're already trashing him before he's played a game in the post-season.

Impressive.
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You're the one who just trashed Stützle. You said young guys take time to produce in the playoffs and said it would apply to Stützle, but for some reason you've left Tkachuk off there. Interesting

bert said:
Truly an unbelievable response. How you isolate Tkachuk here is mind boggling based on the post you just quoted.

If you actually can't recognize what style of play is effective right now and watch the Ottawa Senators on a consistent basis then come to this conclusion you quite clearly don't know what you're looking at.
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Tkachuk is slow, doesn't play defence well at all, and oftentimes floats around or takes a ridiculous shot that misses the net and loses us possession. Is that the style that's effective now?
 
Adrianopolous said:
You're the one who just trashed Stützle. You said young guys take time to produce in the playoffs and said it would apply to Stützle, but for some reason you've left Tkachuk off there. Interesting
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Stutzle has a lot more rope than Tkachuk because of his age.

I'm actually defending him if you could actually read and interpret words properly.
 
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Adrianopolous said:
You're the one who just trashed Stützle. You said young guys take time to produce in the playoffs and said it would apply to Stützle, but for some reason you've left Tkachuk off there. Interesting


Tkachuk is slow, doesn't play defence well at all, and oftentimes floats around or takes a ridiculous shot that misses the net and loses us possession. Is that the style that's effective now?
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All of those things are something a good coach can teach out of his game.
 
Adrianopolous said:
Tkachuk is slow, doesn't play defence well at all, and oftentimes floats around or takes a ridiculous shot that misses the net and loses us possession. Is that the style that's effective now?
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The player that Tim Stutzle is most like in the NHL right now is Mitch Marner.
 
Adrianopolous said:
You're the one who just trashed Stützle. You said young guys take time to produce in the playoffs and said it would apply to Stützle, but for some reason you've left Tkachuk off there. Interesting


Tkachuk is slow, doesn't play defence well at all, and oftentimes floats around or takes a ridiculous shot that misses the net and loses us possession. Is that the style that's effective now?
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He did not trash Stutzle your reading comprehension is truly lacking.

I'll take David Perron and my own experience watching hockey over yours any day of the week.
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PatrickEaves said:
All of those things are something a good coach can teach out of his game.
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Why are you feeding this troll. That's not even accurate he is clueless. Lastly coach's can't play for players something the sens board needs to let go.
 
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NyQuil said:
The player that Tim Stutzle is most like in the NHL right now is Mitch Marner.
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I don't know about that. Stutzle plays way more like Nylander he takes the puck to the net and the middle of the ice. Marner is all perimeter.
 
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I don't know about that. Stutzle plays way more like Nylander he takes the puck to the net and the middle of the ice. Marner is all perimeter.
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He's still working on his strength (we saw the improvement last season) but there's a reason Tkachuk has to step in from time to time.
 
BankStreetParade said:
Stutzle has a physical edge to him, counter-hits and gets in hard on the forecheck. Meanwhile, Marner is deathly allergic to any contact. Kinda close comparison but also not really.
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Stutzle's hits actually went down last season despite having 3 minutes more of icetime.

I don't really have a problem with it because he's more effective when he's not trying to hit guys, and I think the team asked him to focus on what he's good at.

He'll never be a power forward but he does have a commitment to fitness and a work ethic and I do agree that he's not averse to getting into a little bit of the physical stuff.
 
NyQuil said:
The player that Tim Stutzle is most like in the NHL right now is Mitch Marner.
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Not at all. Stutzle plays with reckless abandon and goes to the middle. He regularly gets hit hard because of it. If he's kept to the outside one game the next one he's usually attacking the middle.

I have zero concerns about Stutzle like I do for the leafs big 4 in relation to willingness to 'get dirty'.
 
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Stutzle is similar to Marner in they both like to make plays.

I think the difference is in terms of willingness to be physical and take hits. When I look at that Leafs roster I've seen Nylander and Matthews do the "gritty" play. I've seen them stand in front of the net taking crosschecks occasionally. I've seen Stutzle do the same here in Ottawa. I can't ever recall Marner standing in front of the net taking a beating to help a teammate get a better shot. I've seen him stand at the side of the net to try to collect a rebound, I've seen him move to the slot after the shot gets released. Marner hockey is extremely pretty hockey but he seems to get rattled when the physical play hits. Look at the Florida series for example. Game 2 or 3 he made a pass across his own blueline to avoid getting hit. The pass was poor, the recipient fumbled it, Florida got an oddman rush and scored. Marner was the 10th man to enter his own zone. Maybe he was injured and didn't want to get hit but it looked so bad, Ovechkin controller disconnect level of bad but with Ovechkin you know he will hit players and take hits.
 
bert said:
He did not trash Stutzle your reading comprehension is truly lacking.

I'll take David Perron and my own experience watching hockey over yours any day of the week. View attachment 712516


Why are you feeding this troll. That's not even accurate he is clueless. Lastly coach's can't play for players something the sens board needs to let go.
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Big WALT?
Can anyone get it right?
FFS, it's Keith.
David Perron should know better.
 
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