JungleBeat
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Sens legend. People hated on him too much.
GDT: Stanley Cup playoffs
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Gil Gunderson
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Can you imagine if The Leafs win the Cup and the Habs get Bedard?
Gonna have to seek out next level mindfulness.
Gonna have to seek out next level mindfulness.
bert
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Did you really think the reason the leafs would win is because Samsonov would outplay Vasilevsky lol. Beat it. Didnt stand a chance they should be up 3-1.
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Sun God Nika
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We will see a lot of new leaf fans in this market if they manage to win a cup.
only bright side is we will know who the true fans are in this market if it that happens.
only bright side is we will know who the true fans are in this market if it that happens.
SpezDispenser
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That is an awful good Bruins team. And a pretty darn good Carolina team.
I don't like to count out Tampa, but that was back breaking, but they're pretty good too.
And Colorado is damn good. Vegas is ok.
The Rangers are deep.
The road is tough and filled with blood that Marner and Matthews might shy away from giving. We'll see...
Not so much Samsonov has played well but Vasilevsky has played poorly. An .860 save percentage ain't cutting it in the playoffs.
Gil Gunderson
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I’d still have Toronto as the favourite against every team in the league other than Boston and possibly Edmonton.
SpezDispenser
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Boston is huge though and imminent likely. Then the Rangers have a goalie who isn't completely gassed. Colorado are Champs for a reason.
Maybe slight favourites, but not heavy imo
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oh ya i got money on boston so hopefully they come through.
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Ouroboros
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Obviously fatigue is a factor here, but it looks like the cap and years of 'win now' trades are finally catching up with Tampa. The bottom end of their roster is really grim nowadays.
You pretty much can't use that Bellemare/Maroon/Perry line at 5-on-5 because they're just so far behind the pace. Jeannot has been a complete liability in every game he's played. Nick Paul has been MIA since Christmas.
On defense, Bogosian, Fleury and Raddysh are pretty much all below replacement level players. Ian Cole is only slightly better.
What a decline from when they had guys like Palat, Coleman, Goodrow, Gourde, Shattenkirk, Rutta, McDonagh, and Schenn.
Not sure what to expect from them moving forward - they have very little coming up through their system and basically no cap space to maneuver.
You pretty much can't use that Bellemare/Maroon/Perry line at 5-on-5 because they're just so far behind the pace. Jeannot has been a complete liability in every game he's played. Nick Paul has been MIA since Christmas.
On defense, Bogosian, Fleury and Raddysh are pretty much all below replacement level players. Ian Cole is only slightly better.
What a decline from when they had guys like Palat, Coleman, Goodrow, Gourde, Shattenkirk, Rutta, McDonagh, and Schenn.
Not sure what to expect from them moving forward - they have very little coming up through their system and basically no cap space to maneuver.
bert
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I mean he has played well and Vasi has been brutal. I think thats what I said. Anyone pretending that to say they predicted that would happen is full of it.
Tampas 4th line has been great... They were getting double shifted in the second period. Are you even watching the games? They have outplayed the leafs. The only reason Toronto is up is goaltending.
They get a full summer off and they are going to be a force next year. Thinking they are going to be on the decline with the core they have is silly. Kucherov is a top 5 player in the world and they are deep with tons of other talent in its prime. Point, Sergachev, Colton, Cernak, Cirelly, Hagel are all 26 and under. Vasi is 28... Kucherov is 30, Hedman is 32 and Stamkos is 32.
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Sun God Nika
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Put it on them in early Febuary. 50$ in free bets to win like 225$
Senovision
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Vasi has not been good. Letting in 3,7,4, and 5 goals is not the best. If Vasi played average or even just slightly above average this series would be 3 to 1 for Tampa.
Stamkos hasn't been very noticeable.
He scored his first goal of the series tonight.
Stamkos hasn't been very noticeable.
He scored his first goal of the series tonight.
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Senovision
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Dylan DeMelo was traded to the Winnipeg Jets by the Ottawa Senators for a third-round pick in the 2020.
What were we thinking? A right shot dman that makes 3 million dollars and has put up 27 points this year. Seems like the kind of dman we could use.
What were we thinking? A right shot dman that makes 3 million dollars and has put up 27 points this year. Seems like the kind of dman we could use.
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Ouroboros
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Double shifted? Maroon and Perry each had 2 total shifts at even-strength in the second period. Once the Leafs made it 4-2 they only got on the ice one time after that.
People said the exact same thing about the Blackhawks in 2016. About how Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, Panarin, Hjalmarsson, Seabrook, etc. were all still young - younger than that Tampa core in fact - but they were never good again. Certainly never a Cup threat. They couldn't recapture that same level of motivation and they never had the same calibre of supporting cast around them.
I wouldn't bet on that Tampa core ever going on another deep run. Look at the age distributions of recent Cup winners - they almost never have their best players in their early or mid-30's.
bert
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Yeah Double shifted... Their line went out there twice in a row. They had more than 2 even strength shifts in the 2nd period. Perry has 5 points in 4 games and you think he is no good.
I just named all the players 26 and under. 28 for a goalie is really young. Kucherov just turned 30 and had 113 points. Has been absolutely dominant. They have won 11 of their last 12 series and should be winning this one. Its wishful thinking on your end. Your breakdown of their team was bad ripping on depth guys that are fine.... They are only losing this series because their superstar goalie is exhausted because he has played 431 games since 2017-2018. His Save percentage is .856 his career playoffs is .918. You are reaching. Its obvious why they arent winning right now.
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If TB loses and Brisebois decides to fire Cooper, I hope we snatch him up.
TB has too much talent to start being "bad". They've still got healthy mix of elite players (Kucherov, Point, Sergachev, Vasy aside from this year), good vets (Stamkos, Hedman), and solid role guys (Cernak, Cirelli, Jeannot, Paul, Hagel). They probably won't be able to keep Colton but they'll have cap to fill out their dept.h
TB has too much talent to start being "bad". They've still got healthy mix of elite players (Kucherov, Point, Sergachev, Vasy aside from this year), good vets (Stamkos, Hedman), and solid role guys (Cernak, Cirelli, Jeannot, Paul, Hagel). They probably won't be able to keep Colton but they'll have cap to fill out their dept.h
Gil Gunderson
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They’re not firing Cooper for losing against a top 5 team after 3 straight SCF appearances (2 cups) lol.
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Don't get me wrong it's not great but considering Hedman is being held together by chewing gum and they already took out Cernak, the already top-heavy Tampa D is on life support.
And still Toronto was a few bounces the other way from being down 3-1.
I think it's probably done at this point but Toronto really doesn't look like world beaters.
Boston toying with Florida with one hand tied behind their back is really something though.
bert
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Firing the best coach in the league because the goalie stinks should get Brisebois fired. 31 other teams are going after him if he's available.
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Boston has been outshot 3 of the 4 games. I don't think they're anything special. Much like the Toronto Tampa series one team has had way better goaltending. Would not surprise me at all if Toronto beat Boston. Toronto is beating a better team right now. Tampa has taken Boston to the woodshed the last few times they've played them. Toronto becomes very dangerous if they win this series. For the first time they actually have a goalie. They've never had a player like O'Reilly. He adds a completely different element. Gives the young group confidence. They aren't looking around the room wondering who they should follow. They actually have a guy that's done it. They know who is taking the big draw they know it doesn't have to be them.
