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Standings at US Thanksgiving, who makes the final cut?

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The Leafs are a bubble team once midnight strikes their Cinderella persona.

I don't see any currently trailing team knocking the Leafs out...however, they are soft, weak, fragile and heartless at the core...and, as in the 18-wheeler off the cliff days, if they see serious pushback and competition from other bubble teams, they'll tumble in collapse...just like in the past when Columbus and Montreal exposed them as frauds in the first round of the playoffs.
 
ucanthanzalthetruth said:
A team can't win the Cup in November, but they can lose it.



since the '04 lockout 77% of teams that are in the playoffs at US Thanksgiving make it. Last year, it was 14/16 teams so 88% (Wild and Panthers in for Flames and Wings). Here's your standings as of today:

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My thoughts are 6 of 8 teams in the East (Devils and Pens in for Caps and Wings). But it wouldn't surprise me if one or both of Pens or Devils missed, they're both playing poorly.

The West, I'll say 7 of 8. Calgary in for Kraken (though it wouldn't surprise me if the Wild made a jump or Kraken kept their spot).
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Hot take: NO TEAM in the Western Conference that is, today, out of the playoffs, will make it.

I could see Pittsburgh/NYI get in, Detroit/Wash slide out.

Devils don't have the goaltending so it is not that surprising.
 
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Are 90 points enough to make the playoffs this season as a WC? There are many bad hockey teams this seasons in both confirmed. Nobody wanted the last spots as a WC last season. Pittsburgh and Calgary missed after losing some brutal games.
 
WSH could fallout easily but they also have Cap with Backstrom LTIR money. It will be interesting around the deadline if they are still holding a playoff spot.

Rumor is they want to stand pat to give Nylander 16-17 per next FA.
 
VivaLasVegas said:
Seems like I read about 20,000 posts in the offseason stating that Ottawa and Buffalo were solid locks for the playoffs this season. Yet here we are again.
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This is called Hockey Futures, so most posters here would rather bet on unproven young teams that the grizzled vets like Boston, Wash, Pitt. It's always, this young team is coming to burn your village threads after they have a strong 6-8 game win streak or stretch. Yet, they come back down to earth.
 
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VivaLasVegas said:
Seems like I read about 20,000 posts in the offseason stating that Ottawa and Buffalo were solid locks for the playoffs this season. Yet here we are again.
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When there is a 6 game swing in Standings from 15-21 games, that means some have played up to 40% more games. I wouldn’t look at points standings.

I would look at points percentage, but with the seasons starting later than before, probably Dec 1, is the new equivalent.

The general rule is high 70 percent accuracy, that means about 2 teams out of each conference change, from whatever date you pick.
 
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Just checking in on how the thanksgiving teams are doing.

In the east Phi/NYI have made a push bumping out wash/det (edit - wash won tonite so remain in wc2 spot)

If the Atlantic wasn’t so weak Toronto might be out. They are on a slide.

In the west kraken and at Louis have made way for Arizona and Nashville. Top 6 remain stable.

Overall could be 5/6 teams not making it that were in on thanksgiving. Above average year.
 
SheldonJPlankton said:
The Leafs are a bubble team once midnight strikes their Cinderella persona.

I don't see any currently trailing team knocking the Leafs out...however, they are soft, weak, fragile and heartless at the core...and, as in the 18-wheeler off the cliff days, if they see serious pushback and competition from other bubble teams, they'll tumble in collapse...just like in the past when Columbus and Montreal exposed them as frauds in the first round of the playoffs.
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Still holding true a month later. Well done.

TB or DET only logical teams that could bump TOR out of top 3. TB looks bad though.
 
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jackjohnson said:
Don't see it. Their new coach has a record of 2-3 now. Pickard is just not an NHL goalie and Skinner has not been good this season. They have terrible defensive system like the Canucks the past 2 years.
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They have the best xGF% in the NHL 5v5.

Their actual GF% is starting to trend towards that number now. Was sub 50%, now 12th in the NHL.

Should continue to rise over the months ahead.
 
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Bank Shot said:
They have the best xGF% in the NHL 5v5.

Their actual GF% is starting to trend towards that number now. Was sub 50%, now 12th in the NHL.

Should continue to rise over the months ahead.
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uh huh. Keep pretending your god awful start is just "luck".
 
kranuck said:
uh huh. Keep pretending your god awful start is just "luck".
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Hey I’m no oilers fan, and their are definitely depth issues on that team, and likely system issues that led to their very poor start.

That being said, it doesn’t take away from the fact a very young and inexperienced skinner is growing into the role of starter and the team has been rolling the past month or so. They are looking scary and no one should be surprised if by April they are in a playoff spot. No one will want to face them first round as a wildcard seed
 
Lot of people keep writing about the Oil like they're in a playoff spot. They have yet to get into that final wildcard spot by points or points percentage.

Eg. we just won 4 gloirious games in a row and we're still not in it by points or points percentage.

We dug a huge hole for ourselves and still haven't dug out of it.

I do think we can pull it off but we have very little room for losses and slumps.

Still haven't addressed a single team issue via trade. It's frustrating.

February schedule is brutal and I hope the plan isn't to play 12 games in 20 nights with Stu starting 10 of them.
 
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Czechboy said:
Lot of people keep writing about the Oil like they're in a playoff spot. They have yet to get into that final wildcard spot by points or points percentage.

Eg. we just won 4 gloirious games in a row and we're still not in it by points or points percentage.

We dug a huge hole for ourselves and still haven't dug out of it.

I do think we can pull it off but we have very little room for losses and slumps.

Still haven't addressed a single team issue via trade. It's frustrating.

February schedule is brutal and I hope the plan isn't to play 12 games in 20 nights with Stu starting 10 of them.
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You can't dig out of a big whole in 3 weeks barring like a 9-1 run and the team(s) you are chasing going 0.500. Going to take til Feb to get back into a spot. But, then you have to consider the schedule. Ottawa, due to their Europe trip has played so few games, but that just means more games to play in the final 100 days of the season, so more back to backs and fewer practice days.

Canucks, just before Xmas break had a 5 game home stand, then played 4 road games in 6 nights plus 1 home game traveling back from Dal to Van, thus 5 games in 7 nights in different cities. Think they only had optional practices on game days in Nash, Dal, Van. Rested in between for traveling.

Edm, have a couple of games in hand, but have they hit the tough part of their schedule in terms of travel, rest days, practice time? A lot of games in a short period of time, like that Feb section, means that they don't have the practice time to fix something that is wrong with the team if they are playing 12 games in 20 days. Players need rest.
 
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Czechboy said:
Lot of people keep writing about the Oil like they're in a playoff spot. They have yet to get into that final wildcard spot by points or points percentage.

Eg. we just won 4 gloirious games in a row and we're still not in it by points or points percentage.

We dug a huge hole for ourselves and still haven't dug out of it.

I do think we can pull it off but we have very little room for losses and slumps.

Still haven't addressed a single team issue via trade. It's frustrating.

February schedule is brutal and I hope the plan isn't to play 12 games in 20 nights with Stu starting 10 of them.
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The 2nd wild card team in the west is bound to be really bad which leaves a spot open for the Oilers. But I will admit that every now and then over these past few weeks I've gone to check the standings and been mildly surprised that you guys are still on the outside looking in. It's been a month and a half of strong play now.
 
Romang67 said:
The 2nd wild card team in the west is bound to be really bad which leaves a spot open for the Oilers. But I will admit that every now and then over these past few weeks I've gone to check the standings and been mildly surprised that you guys are still on the outside looking in. It's been a month and a half of strong play now.
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We dug a tremendous hole for ourselves.

Selective memory though as everyone sees us now and assumes everything is okay. It's not.

No juggernauts in front of us which is nice at least but, still, have yet to get into a spot even for a single second. And, yes, we've been playing really well but we didn't start playing well until we were 31st in the league.lol
 
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Romang67 said:
The 2nd wild card team in the west is bound to be really bad which leaves a spot open for the Oilers. But I will admit that every now and then over these past few weeks I've gone to check the standings and been mildly surprised that you guys are still on the outside looking in. It's been a month and a half of strong play now.
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They've played fewer games than the ones they need to pass. If they just win their games in hand they'll have a 2 point lead on Nashville and be in the spot.

Edit: Also that schedule in January is soft as butter. If there's a schedule that can go 11-0 it's that one
 
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Detroit Red Wings are 2 wins away from bumping both Lightning and Leafs and taking 3rd place in their division. That's pretty wild!

That's not a testament how good Detroit is this year, but rather how bad Leafs and Lightning are.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Kings are an absolute joke and will be in WC #2 by the end of Jan
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Nah, they'll beat enough of the bad and middlin' teams to get into 3rd in the Pacific. However, the Kings' demonstrated inability to consistently beat top 1/3rd teams has to be a concern going into the playoffs, but they've got three months to try to fix that.
 
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