Stan Bowman linked to the Oilers GM role--discussion about him, the job and the ramifications.

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Your reaction if Stan Bowman is hired as GM?

  • Not Happy

    Votes: 83 39.5%
  • He was never convicted of a crime

    Votes: 11 5.2%
  • Happy

    Votes: 9 4.3%
  • He should never work again in the NHL

    Votes: 84 40.0%
  • unsure

    Votes: 23 11.0%

  • Total voters
    210
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Salvaged Ship

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Jackson just completed one of the best free agent days we have ever had considering the circumstances, why not leave him in the job? Bowman blows, it’s idiotic to even consider the clown
 

Oilers88

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I'm not putting a lot of stock I put into this rumour. It seems to have originated from Strickland, who also said that Holland would be taking over in Columbus, and generally doesn't seem to know (expletive) all about the Oilers. A bunch of east coast reporters with no knowledge of the oilers have been parroting this. As for Seravalli, he said "I think he was on the Oilers list one year ago when they ended up hiring Jeff Jackson". I don't interpret that as Jackson having him on his list, it seems like the Oilers (probably Nicholson, which fully checks out) were looking at him as a Holland replacement before they pivoted to Jackson.

Jackson strikes me as someone who plays his cards very close to his vest, but he also doesn't outright lie in the media. He has repeatedly said he wanted to interview a number of candidates who are integral parts of other NHL organizations, and can't start that until after the draft and free agency. If he already wanted to hire Bowman, he could just say "We've made some progress on the GM front. Nothing is finalized yet, but we're looking at some options and should have something to announce soon".

Maybe I'll be proven very wrong, but I'm going to take JJ at his word and assume he will interview some people he knows and likes, with an eye to hiring someone experienced who thinks the game the same way he does. I am still leaning toward names like Botterill, Gillman, or even Nonis as fulfilling that description. If they just wanted the longest resume, they could have kept Holland.
 
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Fishy McScales

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I'm not putting a lot of stock I put into this rumour. It seems to have originated from Strickland, who also said that Holland would be taking over in Columbus, and generally doesn't seem to know (expletive) all about the Oilers. A bunch of east coast reporters with no knowledge of the oilers have been parroting this. As for Seravalli, he said "I think he was on the Oilers list one year ago when they ended up hiring Jeff Jackson". I don't interpret that as Jackson having him on his list, it seems like the Oilers (probably Nicholson, which fully checks out) were looking at him as a Holland replacement before they pivoted to Jackson.

Jackson strikes me as someone who plays his cards very close to his vest, but he also doesn't outright lie in the media. He has repeatedly said he wanted to interview a number of candidates who are integral parts of other NHL organizations, and can't start that until after the draft and free agency. If he already wanted to hire Bowman, he could just say "We've made some progress on the GM front. Nothing is finalized yet, but we're looking at some options and should have something to announce soon".

Maybe I'll be proven very wrong, but I'm going to take JJ at his word and assume he will interview some people he knows and likes, with an eye to hiring someone experienced who thinks the game the same way he does. I am still leaning toward names like Botterill, Gillman, or even Nonis as fulfilling that description. If they just wanted the longest resume, they could have kept Holland.
Yeah, people thought the Oilers would hire Gallant or Boudreau as head coach but he had identified Knoblauch.

Obviously Gallant and Boudreau don't have Bowman's baggage but they were experienced names that Jackson didn't fall for.

Hope Bowman is just a name the media feels duty bound to connect the dots on.
 

MoontoScott

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I don't think the Oilers want this guy--for a number of reasons.

I still say let Jackson be the President/GM and he can delegate some stuff to Keith Gretzky or other managers in the organization.

I really believe in "less management" and the recent showing on free agent day demonstrates that you don't need a really expensive high profile guy to come in---you just need somebody with a bit of savvy who can handle a number of jobs. Experience and reputation are certainly relevant but often overrated.

Keeping it simple is usually the best strategy.
 

oobga

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Aug 1, 2003
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Bowman is almost a perfect clone of Holland and Chia. Right place at the right time inheriting a great core of players to build a reputation from. Then loads of mediocrity after. Wasn't he even another Hockey Canada bro with those guys?

Don't do it a third time Katz, please.

Of course the baggage he brings would make it even worse and failure with him that much more embarrassing
 

Jumptheshark

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Oct 12, 2003
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update with some linke

It is being suggested that oiler will be naming a new GM on Thursday.


A fan started petition to keep Bowman away from the OIlers
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If the mods just want just a GM thread feel free to lock this. I just think a discussion on how we feel about this one name that keep popping up is in order.

So far none of the oiler based blogs have op ed pieces about Bowman--will add them when they do.

I think when the Eskimos hired Eric Tillman as an example of how bad of an idea this is. Some life long fans walked away from the team.

While Bowman did not break any laws, he knew what was going on and it was proven that he was the ring leader for how the hawks handled the situation and that is the concern that many oiler fans will have.

If the online speculation is correct--we will have an answer in about 48 hours.
 

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PositiveCashFlow

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Even if the 2010 incident didn’t happen (it didn’t and we can’t disregard it) what did he do as Chicagos GM that was considered ‘good’? The key pieces were already there
 

Paralyzer

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WaitingForUser

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Well ffs all that good will that JJ earned is gone now I have to make probably one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to make regarding sports. I just don’t know if I can cheer for a team that hires someone who helps cover up what he did. Why in every loving **** would the team put the fans in this position? :facepalm:
 
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9911

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I don’t understand why the Oilers went there. The optics aren’t worth it. All of JJ’s good work thus far was undermined with this stupid hire.
 
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Skolman

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Why bring this scrutiny to the organization? Jackson didn't need to rock the boat after the summer the Oilers were having.
That's what I don't quite understand... You would think the backlash this hire is going to get wouldnt be worth it for the organization

Will be a very interesting Press Conference..
 
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ozhenson

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Yup, if this is true, I'm done. Not that it matters to any of you if there is one less fan.

I hope for all of your sake, and for the city that this team wins the cup, but I won't be watching.

Having a FO job in the NHL is a privilege, and doing a couple sensitivity courses ain't enough to earn that back. There's a million other middling executives out there that would do the same job, but not be constantly reminding me of their stupid past actions.

What utter utter bull shit.
 

oXo Cube

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Making the absolute worst possible decision when hiring for this role is really the only thing this organization consistently does well.

Bowman being the choice has Katz's fingerprints all over it. Guess he still won't let hockey ops do the job he hires them for.
 

KeithIsActuallyBad

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Apr 12, 2010
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Jesus Christ Oilers. I know I said you guys should stop being boy scouts but this isn't what I meant.

Also fire Bob Nicholson. I don't care if he's a popcorn vendor at this point.
 

CupofOil

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f***ing Christ Jeff Jackson. I hate this to the very core of my being, not only because of bringing this ridiculously bad publicity to the organization but also because he's a trash GM. I'd rather they bring Chiarelli back and I really mean it.

Maybe I'll get over it eventually but I don't get this, at all.
We just can't have good things for too long. Still paying the price of all those Cups in the 80s.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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Yup, if this is true, I'm done. Not that it matters to any of you if there is one less fan.

I hope for all of your sake, and for the city that this team wins the cup, but I won't be watching.

Having a FO job in the NHL is a privilege, and doing a couple sensitivity courses ain't enough to earn that back. There's a million other middling executives out there that would do the same job, but not be constantly reminding me of their stupid past actions.

What utter utter bull shit.
don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!
 
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