Blue Jays Discussion: Spring Training Discussion: Countdown to the Season (Thursday at 3pm ET/noon PT)

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Eyedea

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think Tiedemann is going to be a starter in the long run. He's never pitched 6 innings in a game his entire professional career and his stuff exceeds his command/control quite a bit. I think he'll ultimately be best deployed like Josh Hader as an elite bullpen weapon that dominates and puts up ridiculous strikeout numbers. I realize a #1/2 starter is much more valuable, but I think that's at least a reasonable fallback.

I think his command/control is much much more refined than Hader was when he was coming up. Plus he’s not a slim, lanky build, but a more prototypical SP build. That obviously doesn’t matter all that much if the arm gives out a la McClanahan, but we should still feel confident that he can start moving forward.

Hader was notorious for slowing down as he got further into the game and his inability to consistently find his release point had him struggling to go multiple times through the order. He was always much better suited for relief because his velocity couldn’t hold deep into games and he only really had two pitches. Tiedemann at least has 3 above average/plus pitches with a potential 4th average offering.

Even ZiPS and Rosenblum’s projections list Tiedemann as the best (non-Japanese import) pitching prospect. The least the org can do is not rob us of the opportunity to see him start, even if he could be a devastating fireman in the pen.
 

MK78

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Just showing it on the pre-game stuff. He tried to check his swing and clench up on a pitch inside and it exposed his back hand/wrist.
As much as I like Danny Jansen, the guy needs to figure out how to better position himself in the batter's box, since you know his wrists and hands are MADE OF GLASS.

It seems like he's had at least one hand injury from getting hit in each of the last few seasons.
 

The Nemesis

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Kinda lame that the prospect-heavy game isn't on broadly-available TV (It's on MLB Network but I can't get that. So I have to hope that the stream on MLB.com isn't garbage quality)
 

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I'm pretty sure the issue with Angel Hernandez is the same issue hockey fans had with Kerry Fraser for years; it's not specifically his awful calls (as pointed out, he's not the worst, but he is below average), but rather what appears to be an ego that tells him the fans have paid good money to see HIM instead of the baseball players getting paid to play. A universally hated trait of refs/umps across sports, by both spectators and athletes, is the ref/ump who feels the need to make the game about themselves and do things specifically to put themselves in the spotlight.

It's a few things with Hernandez.

1) He's a bottom-5 ump in MLB.

2) As you say, he's an extremely confrontational bad ump with a massive ego who constantly escalates the situation after he makes a bad call rather than diffuses it.

3) The whole lawsuit against MLB thing really put a target on him.

At this point he has just become a total joke with no credibility and even if he gets a borderline call right players will just assume he f***ed it up because of who he is.
 
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Kurtz

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Aaron Judge bobblehead sponsored by Tiktok.

Odds that it has a tiny Chinese government spy camera installed in it? :sarcasm:

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