Dreger: Speculation that Panarin asking price is just over $12 million a season

[Blueboy]

If it's an 8 year deal, then maybe. Even that is stretching it.

Can only sign 8years with Columbus.

Bread man will get 10.5-11 no problem.

 

[Plub]

"He wants too much money and the Rangers might be out"

never thought I'd see the ding dong diddly day.

When you are asking for so much the New York f***en Rangers say "that's too much", you may want to lower the ask.

 

[MtoD]

I think he signs in Columbus for 8x11.

Panarin wants paid and that extra year goes a long way for him to get the money he wants. Every other team would have to pay 12.6M/season to match Columbus at 8x11

He only has a couple more days to do so. The moment July 1st comes and FA opens, he can't sign an 8 year deal anymore.

 

[haveandare]

Oof. I really want him on NYR but that’s too much.

 

[Rivet52]

I don't know. I mean I agree I don't think he is worth 12 million but do you really think if a player like Panarin sets his price at 12 puts it out there and doesn't budge off of that number that someone out there won't give it to him? I find that really hard to believe. There is a GM out there with lots of cap space that will offer him what he is asking if he wants it.

I’m not so sure. When it’s approaching top-paid in the League money I’d like to think most GMs would keep a level head. Keep in mind the assumed value of cap space right now. The cap ended up falling short of where it was projected to be. We’ve seen more cap moves this summer so far than years past, the Marleau trade a prime example of how teams value the cap savings. A lot more teams are crunched than usual. I would hope teams are seeing this and use caution not to hinder their long-term plans. A team like Colorado has a lot of space but has some key RFAs to pay now and some high draft picks that could earn huge pay-days as early as their second contracts in just a couple years. That’ll add up quickly even as the cap rises.

He’ll get paid handsomely. I’m just not buying that he’ll get second-highest salary in the NHL-paid handsomely. Great player but I don’t think any GM gives McDavid money to him. The fact he’s a winger makes me feel even more confident in that but hey, weirder things have happened. $10 million seems more practical, although I wouldn’t be shocked if someone goes to 11.

 

[Plub]

Man, contracts are getting crazy. Like who tells their agent " I want McDavid money".

I don't think all the players put him on a pedestal like HF and fans do.

 

[Chardo]

He only has a couple more days to do so. The moment July 1st comes and FA opens, he can't sign an 8 year deal anymore.

He has absolutely no interest in staying with Columbus. Even they know that.

 

[SotasicA]

Man, contracts are getting crazy. Like who tells their agent " I want McDavid money".

"Show me the money"

 

[Hire Sather]

Franchise crippling contract.

Unless the cap is going to rise, I really hope all teams say no.

 

[Rivet52]

Philly should be all in on the bread man.

Not unless they move significant salary out. After the Provorov and Konecny extensions I don’t think they’ll do much more.

 

[Chardo]

I’m not so sure. When it’s approaching top-paid in the League money I’d like to think most GMs would keep a level head. Keep in mind the assumed value of cap space right now. The cap ended up falling short of where it was projected to be. We’ve seen more cap moves this summer so far than years past, the Marleau trade a prime example of how teams value the cap savings. A lot more teams are crunched than usual. I would hope teams are seeing this and use caution not to hinder their long-term plans. A team like Colorado has a lot of space but has some key RFAs to pay now and some high draft picks that could earn huge pay-days as early as their second contracts in just a couple years. That’ll add up quickly even as the cap rises.

He’ll get paid handsomely. I’m just not buying that he’ll get second-highest salary in the NHL-paid handsomely. Great player but I don’t think any GM gives McDavid money to him. The fact he’s a winger makes me feel even more confident in that but hey, weirder things have happened. $10 million seems more practical, although I wouldn’t be shocked if someone goes to 11.

I agree, but keep in mind the McDavid contract came 2 years ago. It will be matched and surpassed before long.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

 

[Eggtimer]

I would love to have Panarin on the Devils but not too sure about if it’s worth it at 11-12 mil per .
Makes the Devils a wild car contender but .... still weak on D / goaltending is questionable , Hughes Hall Smith Nico all need raises yet in next 1-5 years . I’m not a numbers guy but it would look like giving too much % of the cap on forward and too top heavy . Follow the Blues structure and build a team with better depth ? Something like Nyquist AND someone like Dzingel for ?? 9 mil vs Panarin at 11-12 .
Is Panarin even interested in the Devils ?
I guess a similar situation to when he first came over and wanted to play with the Hawks and only the Hawks to play with P Kane ... he gets to play with P Kane’s version 2.0 (Hughes )

 

[RainingRats]

Won’t someone please think of the poor NHL star players!

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Inb4 FLA signs him for 10.5

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

There is definitely a discrepancy in revenues/salary but some of it can be explained by the way the leagues work.

NBA is a star-driven league with very few players on the roster. NFL doesn't have guaranteed contracts. MLB plays an absurd amount of games due to the nature of the sport.

 

[TT1]

f*** that then, dont want him

 

[Horse McHindu]

Teams don’t win cups with a player taking that high a percentage of the cap. Top heavy teams always get crushed by teams with depth in the playoffs. Take a look at the last 10+ years in the post season.

Cost controlled elite talent + depth = championships.

The team that ultimately signs Panarin will ultimately be signing themselves to be a 2nd round caliber team imo (with the occasional 3rd round appearance).

 

[Rivet52]

I agree, but keep in mind the McDavid contract came 2 years ago. It will be matched and surpassed before long.

Definitely agree with that. It’s inevitable. It’s kind of like how every time a quarterback in the NFL gets a new deal they become the highest-paid in the League. It just seems to happen slower in the NHL because it’s a bit different. I remember how long the old Ovechkin contract was at the top and very few came close to his years back. Eventually it was broken but it took a while. I don’t expect McDavid’s to stay on top for much longer but I’d still be surprised to see someone get a higher AAV this year. In a year from now someone else could pass that for all we know. It’ll happen sooner than later.

 

[doublechili]

Franchise crippling contract.

Unless the cap is going to rise, I really hope all teams say no.

That is big money. A number like that would only make sense for a team spending a billion or so on a new arena development project.

 

[majormajor]

Starting high and negotiating to find middle ground is typical. I’m guessing he and whatever team he goes to meet around the $9-10 million AAV range. AAV of $10 million would be pretty fair considering what Skinner got.

Everyone knows it’s going to be Florida.

You think he's only worth 11% more than Skinner? He's closer to prime-Datsyuk than Skinner.

Panarin is a much more consistent and higher scorer than Skinner. He's the ultimate play driver too, zone exits, zone entries, takeaways, you name it. I'm not saying $12m is a great deal, but he'll be more worth that than Skinner or Duchene are worth $9m.

Eventually there is a Point where it is not worth it.
Example Breadman=12Million.
I'd prefer Nyquist=5.5M; Haula 2.75M; Kadri=4.5M... I.e. This higher price for superstars, actually is pushing down salaries for 2nd liners. Id prefer 3 2nd line players. Or 2 over a star.

Panarin and two bottom sixers would be top line quality. Everyone you put him with scores more. Nyquist, Haula, and Kadri is an average second line.

 

[Dog]

My guess he signs with Bob in Florida..

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

$12 million is way too much for Panarin. Once you hit that kind of salary, you need to be a franchise changing talent. Simply being very good isn't enough.

 

[Muffin]

Colorado can afford to give him that.

 

[Rivet52]

You think he's only worth 11% more than Skinner? He's closer to prime-Datsyuk than Skinner.

Panarin is a much more consistent and higher scorer than Skinner. He's the ultimate play driver too, zone exits, zone entries, takeaways, you name it. I'm not saying $12m is a great deal, but he'll be more worth that than Skinner or Duchene are worth $9m.



Panarin and two bottom sixers would be top line quality. Everyone you put him with scores more. Nyquist, Haula, and Kadri is an average second line.

Skinner and Panarin play the same position and are signing deals at the same time. They are very different players though. Skinner scored 40 goals. Panarin is the better, more skilled player but isn’t the goal-scorer Skinner is. Duchene could break $10 million pretty easily and the position he plays will help that.

I like Panarin a lot. My point is, which most posters agree with is that he isn’t a $12 million per year player and it’d be surprising if he was able to get that on the market. With the Skinner deal as leverage he can probably get into the $10 million range but I’m guessing 10-11 is where he’ll end up. Over 12 is a couple million too much.