Speculation: Speculation, rumours and trade & free agency ideas thread

[tbcwpg]

I like Lundell, however, sub Helle add Lundell this team a Cup contender? Miss me with the Brossoit suggestion as a starter. The next season he plays 30+ gp will he his first. With the way contracts are outlined the Jets need to be contenders within 2 years

I think add Lundell keep Helle and they probably aren't a contender even then.

 

[jgimp]

Unless it’s on your scrotum…then go slow and gentle

Hate to think why there would be a band aid on your scrotum

 

[Buffdog]

Hate to think why there would be a band aid on your scrotum

Shaving

 

[CanMerc]

Hate to think why there would be a band aid on your scrotum

Shaving

Dog bite

 

[jgimp]

Shaving

Dog bite

 

[snowkiddin]

The NHL is broken but nobody cares because it's only broken for the teams that don't matter.

Gives me mid-2010s NBA vibes where all these superstars were all moving and trying to create super teams

 

[Buffdog]

Gives me mid-2010s NBA vibes where all these superstars were all moving and trying to create super teams

A little tougher with the salary cap, but we're definitely starting to see it

Also reminds me of soccer, where teams invest time and resources developing young talent, only to move them to the best teams

 

[Hunter368]

Gives me mid-2010s NBA vibes where all these superstars were all moving and trying to create super teams

Brady trade should get GM's making moves now, just bc he's off the table now and to try to counter Florida moves, plus to help fill their needs. Sometimes you see one trade hold everything up, well lets see if this opens up some other major trades.

 

[CanMerc]

Brady trade should get GM's making moves now, just bc he's off the table now and to try to counter Florida moves, plus to help fill their needs. Sometimes you see one trade hold everything up, well lets see if this opens up some other major trades.

I think it was likely FLA had multiple irons going involving many teams…WPG, DET, OTT…and high quality players…Hellebuyck, Larkin, Tkachuk…so now, some or all of those teams will pivot to secondary or fall back options

 

[Hunter368]

I think it was likely FLA had multiple irons going involving many teams…WPG, DET, OTT…and high quality players…Hellebuyck, Larkin, Tkachuk…so now, some or all of those teams will pivot to secondary or fall back options

No doubt, I highly expect Florida is trying their hardest to get Helle, its only a question if they give up Lundell or not now that they have Brady also. If Lundell is untouchable well I don't see Florida having the tradable assets to get helle.

 

[Gm0ney]

I think looking at helle's sv% alone is is too simple, one needs to look at the expected GA vs actual and them look at the team stats in front of him, compare the two to see patterns. IMHO

According to NST, in his first 14 games (pre-surgery) he had an all-situations GSAA +6.71, allowing 35 GA against 46.93 xGA (3.37 xGA/60), GSAx = +11.93.

In his last 43 games (post-surgery) he had a (NST) GSAA of -6.25. He allowed 127 GA vs. 129.29 xGA (3.35 xGA/60). That's a GSAx of +2.29.

Moneypuck doesn't have a filter to split the season I don't think. They have him at +5.5 GSAx for the whole season. 162 GA vs 167.54 xGA.

I don't think the Jets got particularly worse in front of him later in the season...they weren't good in the beginning, but he was doing his usual thing, saving way above expected. That wasn't happening post-surgery.

Hellebuyck's played well in front of shaky team defense before. He was doing it in the first month and a half this season.

 

[voyageur]

Agreed, there is zero chance after watching HElle on their podcast and Brady now in Florida that the brothers are begging management to get Helle, I mean that basically said HElle won them the gold metal on the podcast……..Brady is the first step, now can Zito make the second step with Chevy the grinder and get Helle.

IMO if he does do it, it HElle for Lundell or Lundell maybe plus (LHD or 4c)

Or the Panthers can just trade for Binington who won 2 out of 3 key matchups against Helle, and very well could have won all 3 if Scheif had made the team, Crosby was playing or a certain superstar didn't pull an Appleton. Still more Canadians than Americans on Florida, and Zito keeps his Finns which are his calling card.

 

[Hunter368]

According to NST, in his first 14 games (pre-surgery) he had an all-situations GSAA +6.71, allowing 35 GA against 46.93 xGA (3.37 xGA/60), GSAx = +11.93.

In his last 43 games (post-surgery) he had a (NST) GSAA of -6.25. He allowed 127 GA vs. 129.29 xGA (3.35 xGA/60). That's a GSAx of +2.29.

Moneypuck doesn't have a filter to split the season I don't think. They have him at +5.5 GSAx for the whole season. 162 GA vs 167.54 xGA.

I don't think the Jets got particularly worse in front of him later in the season...they weren't good in the beginning, but he was doing his usual thing, saving way above expected. That wasn't happening post-surgery.

Hellebuyck's played well in front of shaky team defense before. He was doing it in the first month and a half this season.

Also have to wonder about a athlete mentally checking out at a certain point, either consciously or unconsciously knowing his team sucks and has no chance this year, a massive let down year.

 

[DRW204]

Just wondering why do ppl think Toronto is trading Knies for 8th Overall?
They need to win this year otherwise Matthews demanding to go back to the US next year.
Just signed Raddysh big money, doesn't strike me as rebuild move.

 

[Hunter368]

Or the Panthers can just trade for Binington who won 2 out of 3 key matchups against Helle, and very well could have won all 3 if Scheif had made the team, Crosby was playing or a certain superstar didn't pull an Appleton. Still more Canadians than Americans on Florida, and Ziti keeps his Finns which are his calling card.

Personally I'm not a Binington fan, he's too flakey but who knows maybe Zito likes and him and comes cheap compared to helle

 

[LowLefty]

Or they held onto Lundell, because Chevy wouldn't move off that ask while the Sens were fine pivoting to #9 and the additional picks.

And maybe that is why they are calling him a 1C - that's what they figure it might take to pull Helle in.
Takes care of that +++ that Chevy might have been looking for

 

[Hunter368]

Just wondering why do ppl think Toronto is trading Knies for 8th Overall?
They need to win this year otherwise Matthews demanding to go back to the US next year.
Just signed Raddysh big money, doesn't strike me as rebuild move.

I don't see that either, while I would love it, thats less realistic then Lundell & 9th oa was for helle.

 

[CanMerc]

Personally I'm not a Binington fan, he's too flakey but who knows maybe Zito likes and him and comes cheap compared to helle

Or the Panthers can just trade for Binington who won 2 out of 3 key matchups against Helle, and very well could have won all 3 if Scheif had made the team, Crosby was playing or a certain superstar didn't pull an Appleton. Still more Canadians than Americans on Florida, and Zito keeps his Finns which are his calling card.

Helle carried that team on his back for that Gold Medal game

 

[Buffdog]

Just wondering why do ppl think Toronto is trading Knies for 8th Overall?
They need to win this year otherwise Matthews demanding to go back to the US next year.
Just signed Raddysh big money, doesn't strike me as rebuild move.

Because Chayka does stupid shit

 

[Jets 31]

Next collective bargaining the players will demand more roster spots on certain U.S teams. All the Canadian teams will have the higher draft picks, develop them and then trade them to those teams once they get good.

 

[CanMerc]

Ok…I’m going to bed…gotta get up for work in 6 and a half hours…so, no trades til tomorrow…YOU HEAR ME CHEVY…NOTHING TIL TOMORROW

 

[roccerfeller]

The Hellebuyck deal fell through. That's why Sameskovich was dealt to Seattle and he didn't want to sign there.

I mean it'd still possible but Lundell and Mikkola along with many 2nds may have to head Winnipeg's way. But it's looking like if he is traded now it'll be the Golden Knights. Florida has almost no assets left to trade.

How do we know this for a fact?

 

[voyageur]

Helle carried that team on his back for that Gold Medal game

And still the winning goal was there on an empty net. Whole story changes with that miss.

 

[roccerfeller]

I just hope for one time in my life we hear that a player forces his way to the jets

Toews on his return sorta did ?

Does that count?

It’s gonna have to be some kid in the future, born raised in/around Winnipeg growing up a Jets Fan and dreams of the Jets winning a cup. Maybe Carson Carels is that guy one day. Can you imagine if he’s drafted by the Rangers, the biggest market in the NHL and one day requests to go to the Jets, the smallest market in the NHL? that would be kind of cool

I mean, it’s a speculation thread, right

 

[flin flon bombers]

Hate to think why there would be a band aid on your scrotum

Who doesn't have bandaids on their scrotum,sex is not for country gentleman.