Speculation: Speculation, rumours and trade & free agency ideas thread

[Royale With Cheese]

I missed this. Where did dreger say anything?

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Yesterday at 12:26 PM

https://www.tsn.ca/video/2026/06/17/dreger-on-hiller-knies-hellebuyck-more/

so it seems like the jets will trade helle for a 2C++

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[WolfHouse]

I missed this. Where did dreger say anything?

It was a joke about Dreger saying where there is smoke there is fire, literally. TNSE has 100% told him to put the 2C++ market value out there… so if they are leaking thru Dregs, which they always do, then something is up.

 

[jamiebez]

It was a joke about Dreger saying where there is smoke there is fire, literally. TNSE has 100% told him to put the 2C++ market value out there… so if they are leaking thru Dregs, which they always do, then something is up.

It feels like this is Chevy's way of saying "if you want him NOW, you better be prepared to pay A LOT". Could still be a fishing expedition... Chevy's way of responding to the noise. Either it scares everyone off, or someone bites and we are laughing.

A "2C + +" to me is a cost-controlled 2C with term plus two other assets that solve a problem for us. Dreger explicitly mentioned a D and a 4C as "areas the team wants to address" - plus a replacement G obviously.

The 4C thing I thought was weird - just try Yager or Zhilkin already.

 

[scarbrow]

I feel like Chevy has to do something significant or it's all going to unravel.

It's "Going to unravel"? I thought we're were way passed unraveled with our LEAGUE MVP silently(and not so silently) wanting out because of how historically bad LY was

 

[DRW204]

so in 12 months: Cheveldayoff doesn't go hard in re-signing Ehlers and loses him for nothing, refuses to improve the line-up to create a contender, Hellebuyck wins gold with US team and talks about how great it was being part of that team/managers/teammates, EoY he is vocal on wanting the Jets improved, Ehlers wins a Cup by being a key piece for Carolina, Hellebuyck trade talk intensifies....

 

[CanMerc]

so in 12 months: Cheveldayoff doesn't go hard in re-signing Ehlers and loses him for nothing, refuses to improve the line-up to create a contender, Hellebuyck wins gold with US team and talks about how great it was being part of that team/managers/teammates, EoY he is vocal on wanting the Jets improved, Ehlers wins a Cup by being a key piece for Carolina, Hellebuyck trade talk intensifies....

…about sums it up

 

[flin flon bombers]

I see you manage your emotions well lol

It wasn't his fault he got it, and it's a big deal regardless of who gave it to him

You're the type of fan who is driving him out

Its a big deal in the states the same thing with his gold medal,it doesn't mean anything to me as a Manitoban,but as I said I'm not going to boo him or whatever but I don't have any joy whatsoever about his American accomplishment let him his family and fellow Olympians enjoy it.

 

[DRW204]

…about sums it up

Somehow it's all Chaz Lucius fault

 

[WolfHouse]

so in 12 months: Cheveldayoff doesn't go hard in re-signing Ehlers and loses him for nothing, refuses to improve the line-up to create a contender, Hellebuyck wins gold with US team and talks about how great it was being part of that team/managers/teammates, EoY he is vocal on wanting the Jets improved, Ehlers wins a Cup by being a key piece for Carolina, Hellebuyck trade talk intensifies....

Yeah but Jonathon Toews was nominated for the Masterson and we renovated the dressing rooms.

 

[tbcwpg]

https://www.tsn.ca/video/2026/06/17/dreger-on-hiller-knies-hellebuyck-more/

so it seems like the jets will trade helle for a 2C++

They might try. I think it's a mistake to trade Hellebuyck for a now roster upgrade, but given the NMC factor they might have to just take what they can.

 

[CanMerc]

Somehow it's all Chaz Lucius fault

Right…that SOB

 

[CanMerc]

They might try. I think it's a mistake to trade Hellebuyck for a now roster upgrade, but given the NMC factor they might have to just take what they can.

Probably hoping they can get a good enough 2C to help the current core and then find a competent enough goalie to fill the net…problem is we need to fix our D as well

 

[CanMerc]

You're wasting your breathe with this one #Elbows up

Damn right ELBOWS UP

 

[WolfHouse]

They might try. I think it's a mistake to trade Hellebuyck for a now roster upgrade, but given the NMC factor they might have to just take what they can.

I would wager that Helle and his agent are fully aware of the change happening next year and are working WITH the Jets to get this done in a way that benefits everyone.

If Helle has asked for a trade, I dont hold anything against him and I dont think its acrimonious… dude has a huge opportunity to cash in on marketing dollars - and people have short memories.

 

[tbcwpg]

Probably hoping they can get a good enough 2C to help the current core and then find a competent enough goalie to fill the net…problem is we need to fix our D as well

The way this team plays defence, they need something a bit more than a competent enough goalie.

I would wager that Helle and his agent are fully aware of the change happening next year and are working WITH the Jets to get this done in a way that benefits everyone.

If Helle has asked for a trade, I dont hold anything against him and I dont think its acrimonious… dude has a huge opportunity to cash in on marketing dollars - and people have short memories.

I'm sure they are working with the Jets to help. I don't think that means he's expanding his list of acceptable teams beyond maybe 5 or so, and that doesn't mean that the teams he wants to go to are willing to, or even have, the pieces that Chevy is looking for in return. Hellebuyck leads the GSAA stat by 20 goals over the last three seasons, and that includes last year's mid output of -0.35 in that stat. I'm sure the team can eventually adjust to replace him and be alright but I don't think that's happening next season with Arneil and the team on the ice as constructed currently.

 

[tbcwpg]

The point about Hellebuyck's feelings re: the Medal of Freedom stuff is fine, the stuff getting into the Canada vs US stuff is not.

 

[CanMerc]

The point about Hellebuyck's feelings re: the Medal of Freedom stuff is fine, the stuff getting into the Canada vs US stuff is not.

Understood….Can you not use Green…I work outside and it doesn’t show up with sun glare

 

[Gm0ney]

It's "Going to unravel"? I thought we're were way passed unraveled with our LEAGUE MVP silently(and not so silently) wanting out because of how historically bad LY was

He's pulled on the thread, but the unravelling could be stopped with significant changes (which probably requires trading 8th overall for help now and a big rebound season for the team next year).

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

If ANYONE can wrestle that kind of return out of a GM, it's Chevy

I remember people being gobsmacked at the PLD return

Yep if there is one thing Chevy excels at it's getting incredible returns for his players, I have no doubt what so ever that if he trades Helle we are getting a haul.

I honestly believe we could actually be a better team if we get the right pieces back, sure we will miss Helle in net but it has been proven time and again that you don't need a vezina goaltender to win the cup.

 

[tarozi]

Damn right ELBOWS UP

and don't forget about the CBC, lol

 

[tbcwpg]

Yep if there is one thing Chevy excels at it's getting incredible returns for his players, I have no doubt what so ever that if he trades Helle we are getting a haul.

I honestly believe we could actually be a better team if we get the right pieces back, sure we will miss Helle in net but it has been proven time and again that you don't need a vezina goaltender to win the cup.

That always depends on which team it is. The "you don't need a Vezina goaltender to win the Cup" talk is always pretty silent when Bobrovsky or Vasilevsky was winning it.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I'm all on board with this trade, honestly. Chevy has done very well with historically distressed assets, and if Bucky is rankled about us not honouring his Medal of Freedom award, then f*** you. This is what you get when you commingle politics and sports. Read the room, Bucky.

 

[Buffdog]

Yep if there is one thing Chevy excels at it's getting incredible returns for his players, I have no doubt what so ever that if he trades Helle we are getting a haul.

I honestly believe we could actually be a better team if we get the right pieces back, sure we will miss Helle in net but it has been proven time and again that you don't need a vezina goaltender to win the cup.

I think that Chrvy also excels at siging guys to contracts that are very fair for both sides

He never seems to rip anyone off OR overpay

Maybe some terms have been a little longer than they could have been for aging guys (Wheeler, Helle, Schief, Lowry) but that's fairly standard practice across the league

 

[GeorgeJETson]

I've suspected for a while that these comments were the kind of person Helle was, but he kept tight lipped because of the team he played for. And hanging out with certain players on the US Olympic team has emboldened him to now be more vocal.

That's all I'll say because my thoughts on this topic blur too close to the lines that might get me in trouble with the mods here.

(Hopefully that doesn't cross any lines mods!)

 

[Buffdog]

I just cannot wrap my head around how people let their politics affect their entire lives. That's directed to people on both sides, since it happens

IDGAF what my goalie's views are, as long as he stops the goddamn puck

I wish we could go back to a time where ploitical views and religion weren't discussed in polite society