Speculation: Speculation, rumours and trade & free agency ideas thread

[CanMerc]

On a cheap 1 year prove himself deal, I’d be ok with him

 

[Gm0ney]

I feel like NJ would be a good trade partner for us.

To NJ - Helle, 8OA, Perfetti

To Wpg - Markstrom (25% retained for both remaining years), Bratt, Mercer, 2nd Rd pick 35OA

Markstrom hasn't been good for 5 years and was brutal last season. He's negative value in a trade. Bratt's the only good piece coming back here, while the Jets are giving up an elite goalie, 8th overall and a decent young winger.

 

[MelikeJets]

Too bad Jets went on that run and moved up the standings. Imagine the excitement if we were picking 5th or better?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Interesting approach. Losing Byram and potentially Tuch after the first playoff run in 15 years hurts, so the natural fix is... let's check... to hate the idea of strengthening the roster with pieces that aren't contributing next year? Do I have this right?

I thought the blueprint of a WPG-BUF trade for Hellebuyck was clear as day 24 hours ago, and now things have changed and it's even clearer. We take on UPL and Norris, which gives them the cap flexibility to keep Tuch. For that, we charge either #4+, Helenius+, or Östlund++. If they bite on McLeod+UPL instead of Norris+UPL, that works too (just don't think the cap does for the Sabres). One plus means a minor piece.

We can afford to take the gamble on whether Norris is healthy enough, because we'll be left for a top C prospect for our troubles anyway. UPL is a good enough replacement for now - we aren't going to be better next year, but if we're dealing Hellebuyck, that's just how it is.

They'll be left with two of Östlund/Helenius/"Björck/Malhotra/Stenberg" to sort out their forward depth chart. Part of the value prop for the Sabres is getting to keep Tuch without jeopardising their long-term extension to Benson. They improve their goaltending massively.

It makes so much sense. What doesn't make sense is for Buffalo to look at their current situation and decide that keeping all their futures is worth it. Thompson, Samuelsson, and Dahlin are all in their prime - now it's not the time to wait for the next wave to roll around.

If we get 4 they don't have access to Bjorck, Malhotra or Stenberg.

 

[MelikeJets]

On a cheap 1 year prove himself deal, I’d be ok with him

If rather take that chance on Laine.

 

[CanMerc]

If rather take that chance on Laine.

Laine hasn’t shown shit in years…Pulj is reportedly doing good in Europe

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Not now, but they were a few weeks ago.

A few people have mentioned him, from time to time. I don't think anybody was 'clamouring' for him. Maybe 1 guy, tops.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

See…I went the other way…I think with what they now have in assets, they should chase Thomas again…upgrade their C

What makes you think Thomas would waive for Buffalo?

 

[Turin]

Laine hasn’t shown shit in years…Pulj is reportedly doing good in Europe

Pulj was an AHL bum after being given a chance in the NHL again after doing well in Europe just a couple years ago. He doesn’t have it, he’s not good.

 

[Maukkis]

If we get 4 they don't have access to Bjorck, Malhotra or Stenberg.

Hence why "two of Helenius/Östlund/one of the guys we picked at 4". Of course.

 

[KingBogo]

Chevys problem is he let it be known what he was asking for Helle…now anything less is a fail and makes him look weak…if he’d have kept his cone of silence on, he could have taken picks and prospects and whatever and come out looking like a winner…or at least looking good

GMs can spin anything and most fans will go along. More important is over asking in negotiations with other GMs so you have other options. While I have some concerns with Chevy, is ability to grind out good trades is among the best in the league. Other GMs and agents have commented many times about Chevy's ability to grind out good deals.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hence why "two of Helenius/Östlund/one of the guys we picked at 4". Of course.

Sorry, still don't follow. If they don't have 4 they can't get any of those guys.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

this is the 2nd time GMs sort of were a bit cooler on Helle's value in recent years.

2023: NJD, BUF allegedly passed on trying to trade him, ends up re-signing with the Jets on the condition they're competitive

2026: Dreger saying the offers have not been good for Hellebuyck..... i think he's been on the market for at least a month now? maybe more? hard to say for sure as it seems like both the Jets + Helle's side were keeping his under wraps, esp. with the Playoffs going on.

It's not surprising, simply put GM's and really anyone don't value goalies like they do forwards and even D men, they still believe that the guy stopping pucks from going into the net is simply not as important and therefore no need to waste many assets getting one.

It's why we have never really seen a goalie go for a massive haul, I know we all want one and I truly believe Helle is worth one but the more I look at it the more I think nobody is going to pony up and pay Chevy what he wants.

I hope I am wrong though and we see an absolute fleecing real soon.

 

[Maukkis]

Sorry, still don't follow. If they don't have 4 they can't get any of those guys.

You have options A, B, and C. You get to keep two of them, and you give away the one that you did not choose to keep.

Helenius: A
Östlund: B
#4 pick: C

 

[Gm0ney]

 

[Sleestak Nation]

What makes you think Thomas would waive for Buffalo?

His long-time friend and teammate (never mind sitting together through the suspicion of being involved in the 2018 WJC Team Canada controversy) has been moved for spare-ish parts and a draft pick?

 

[kylbaz]

Starting to think buffalo is a pipe dream. They have the assets but goaltending isn't their biggest need. I could see if they had nothing but they have two above average goalies already.

 

[Daximus]

At least it won't cost us assets. If we get Helenius and or UPL. Never hurts to have a little Finnish contingent to make the guys feel at home.

 

[gojetsgo]

At least it won't cost us assets. If we get Helenius and or UPL. Never hurts to have a little Finnish contingent to make the guys feel at home.

f*** it
sign laine
trade for kotkaniemi
sign pool party

have a 4th line of laine kk poolparty it can either be called the Finnish line or if they are horrible the finished line

 

[Gil Fisher]

f*** it
sign laine
trade for kotkaniemi
sign pool party

have a 4th line of laine kk poolparty it can either be called the Finnish line or if they are horrible the finished line

Wonder if Joelevi is available?

 

[Daximus]

f*** it
sign laine
trade for kotkaniemi
sign pool party

have a 4th line of laine kk poolparty it can either be called the Finnish line or if they are horrible the finished line

Finnipeg is back baby!

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

f*** it
sign laine
trade for kotkaniemi
sign pool party

have a 4th line of laine kk poolparty it can either be called the Finnish line or if they are horrible the finished line

Just keep Lambo away from them, don't want another Finn infected with their washed up diseases, we need at least one of them to succeed.

 

[Finnflash]

Finnipeg is back baby!

I might just be on board with that.

 

[raideralex99]

Speaking of no trade contracts ... the NHL compared to the other major sport leagues is insane.
NFL: 8
NBA: 2
MLB: 35
NHL: 245

 

[drumzan]