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jay from jersey said:
Think they brought Blais and Goodrow in to be the “ dirty work” guys to play with 2 more talented players.
Each of them will be placed on a line with 2 guys that kind of play a different style and they lack that 3rd component. A guy that will win puck battles, Hit, and forecheck.
I think if Panarin-Strome is the line going fwd out of camp, which is likely, 1 of Goodrow/Blais are going to be the RW
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This is also possible. Though I’m not sure we see that much these days. I think coaches used to go for more diversified balanced lines. But now i think they go more for lines that are kind of heavily geared for one thing or another. Like all scorers or all bruisers. I don’t have stats or anything. Just my sense.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Blais is 4th on the depth chart at LW on our team. Unless there are injuries, I don't expect him to get considerable 3rd line minutes at ES. He might pump up those numbers on the PK though.
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Technically 5th. But I don’t think he’s going to stay on the left side. Blais plays both wings, just like Goodrow can play all 3 positions, but was mainly a LW in Tampa.
If they plan on leaving LaF on the left side with Kreids and Panarin, It’s possible both Goodrow and Blais and destined for RW duty.

I’m guessing you think out 4th line will be
Blais-Rooney-Reaves with hunt getting some games here and there...
It’s certainly a possibility for 4th line. It’s should be a crazy competitive camp, because the only things I see set in stone atm is

??-Zibby-??
Panarin-Strome-??
??-Chytil/Barron-??
Hunt/??-Rooney-Reaves/??

there’s a lot of possibilities about who fills the ?? And why they should.
I think if Barron has a lights out camp he’s our 3C starting out of the gate. If not, he’s going back to Hartford. They aren’t going to put him on 4th line.
The dogfight is basically going to be between Kakko/kravtsov/and Blais for 2 of the top 9 spots.
Blais might seem like the logical choice to drop to 4th line, but I’m not sure if shakes out that way.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Kakko below Zegras, Dach, Cozens, Seider :laugh:
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I don't necessarily think he's wrong, though I wouldn't say for sure that Kakko won't be better than all of them in the long run. I think there's a tendency to overvalue players who are doing really well in lower leagues and undervalue players who aren't lighting it up in the NHL. Also, there's a strong bias toward point production. People are always going to be more impressed by a guy putting up 18 points in 7 WJC games than a guy putting up 17 points in 48 NHL games, no matter the context or how well he did in other areas of the game besides scoring.

The amount of improvement Kakko showed from year 1 to year 2 was astounding, but it was mostly in his play without the puck, so it goes unnoticed or unappreciated by most people. I think this year, with more ice time and better opportunities, his offensive game will flourish.
 
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One of these guys is a throw in, the other was our prime UFA.
 
GAGLine said:
I don't necessarily think he's wrong, though I wouldn't say for sure that Kakko won't be better than all of them in the long run. I think there's a tendency to overvalue players who are doing really well in lower leagues and undervalue players who aren't lighting it up in the NHL. Also, there's a strong bias toward point production. People are always going to be more impressed by a guy putting up 18 points in 7 WJC games than a guy putting up 17 points in 48 NHL games, no matter the context or how well he did in other areas of the game besides scoring.

The amount of improvement Kakko showed from year 1 to year 2 was astounding, but it was mostly in his play without the puck, so it goes unnoticed or unappreciated by most people. I think this year, with more ice time and better opportunities, his offensive game will flourish.
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Zegras, Cozens, Caufield and Seider combined for 75 reg season games so far.

Dach missed an entire season due to injury.

This is a typical Pronman take so I shouldn't be surprised.
 
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GAGLine said:
I don't necessarily think he's wrong, though I wouldn't say for sure that Kakko won't be better than all of them in the long run. I think there's a tendency to overvalue players who are doing really well in lower leagues and undervalue players who aren't lighting it up in the NHL. Also, there's a strong bias toward point production. People are always going to be more impressed by a guy putting up 18 points in 7 WJC games than a guy putting up 17 points in 48 NHL games, no matter the context or how well he did in other areas of the game besides scoring.

The amount of improvement Kakko showed from year 1 to year 2 was astounding, but it was mostly in his play without the puck, so it goes unnoticed or unappreciated by most people. I think this year, with more ice time and better opportunities, his offensive game will flourish.
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people don’t want to hear it but moving buch as I said all along was less about not liking buch and more about having to get ice time for your top picks. Kakko will thrive with more ice as will lafreniere these guys need to be go to guys. They have been their whole lives
 
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Kovalev27 said:
people don’t want to hear it but moving buch as I said all along was less about not liking buch and more about having to get ice time for your top picks. Kakko will thrive with more ice as will lafreniere these guys need to be go to guys. They have been their whole lives
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Exactly. And if we kept Buch everyone crying about losing him would be crying that Kakko and/or Lafreniere are relegated to the 3rd line and not getting PP time.

I love Buch but look at the roster. I understand thinking the value in the return was poor, but the concept of moving on from Buch made total sense. If one of our 1st or 2nd overall picks (and previous year's 9th overall) were centers instead of wingers and if our best player wasn't a Hart trophy level winger, keeping Buch may have made sense.
 
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this isnt directed at anyone in particular, but it is funny how people complain about the idea of acquiring a legit nhl center like dvorak and dont want to hear about him but logan brown has been brought up on this board for years as some sort of potential center option for this team even though he hasnt been able to break through on the ottawa freaking senators....
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Exactly. And if we kept Buch everyone crying about losing him would be crying that Kakko and/or Lafreniere are relegated to the 3rd line and not getting PP time.

I love Buch but look at the roster. I understand thinking the value in the return was poor, but the concept of moving on from Buch made total sense. If one of our 1st or 2nd overall picks (and previous year's 9th overall) were centers instead of wingers and if our best player wasn't a Hart trophy level winger, keeping Buch may have made sense.
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I don't think anyone was overly upset (other than EdJovo) that we traded him. Most, like myself, were upset at the return. If we had somehow managed to trade Buch for Zegras, we'd all be doing backflips. We weren't getting that, obviously, but the reality should have been somewhere in the middle.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
this isnt directed at anyone in particular, but it is funny how people complain about the idea of acquiring a legit nhl center like dvorak and dont want to hear about him but logan brown has been brought up on this board for years as some sort of potential center option for this team even though he hasnt been able to break through on the ottawa freaking senators....
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Dvorak isn't better than Zibanejad or Strome and I prefer Chytil over Dvorak especially considering the cap hit.

Dvorak isn't a solution for us IMO.
 
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