Speculation: Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXIV

[Alluckks]

Trouba is gonna wear the C and all 3 As on his jersey at the same time

 

[DialUp]

Trouba is gonna wear the C and all 3 As on his jersey at the same time

Finally the correct answer

 

[Tob]

September is even slower than August.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Everyone excited for development camp starting tomorrow and the lack of coverage we will get?

 

[nyr2k2]

Everyone excited for development camp starting tomorrow and the lack of coverage we will get?

I was honestly disappointed because the only invites that aren't "our guys" were some mostly-crappy players who were in Hartford last year. I miss the days of guys like Zaitsev, Sustr, Read, Kinkaid, etc. getting invites.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

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was there ever a team that had a captain and 2 assistant captains all on defense?

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The 2015 Rangers. McD was captain and Staal and Girardi were alternates (along with Stepan and MSL).

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

He’s getting extended.

Im confused i missed a few pages but is there insider information that we are about to extend him? Otherwise as of this year you can not give a player the A that only has 1 year left on his contract. Makes no sense.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Kreider:

"Just over the summer, the impact he had on our organization was huge, working with all those guys at Ben Prentiss'," David Quinn said. "I think half the team was staying at his house - he was running a bed-and-breakfast over there in Rowayton."
"It's not only what you see that he does for us on the ice," Quinn added of his winger, "What he does away from the rink with these young guys is invaluable."

This is also Dairy Queen saying this. Take it with a grain of salt

 

[Alluckks]

September is even slower than August.

Green Day was right

 

[Shesterkybomb]

It should be:

Kreider - C
Trouba - A
Lindgren - A
Panarin - A

We waited this long why not leave it alone and see if Goodrow is that guy before we hand it to someone else? The guy won 2 cups, nobody on this team has done that.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Drury says he sees both Chytil and Barron as Centers

Lot of people that don't know anything about him were trying to tell me Barron can't play center he's a winger. I watched and scouted him as a kid and he played center right up until he got to college, and he was a good center who year after year kept raising the bar. Unfortunately a lot of posters talk about a lot of stuff they have no idea about.

 

[Bluto]

I think fox should get the C.
Kreider, zibby, and trouba as A's to show him the way and be the vet presence help put players in line who dont like it.
fox needs to be set up as the bonafide leader of this organization for the next 15 years. Hes the guy to wear the C on future cup runs.
Then kakko, laf, and kam will take up the A mantle as time goes on.
Fox is capable of the role. Best break him in early.

 

[LokiDog]

To me, Fox can be an A in a year or two, but he’s not your C. Nor do I see guys like Zib/Kreids helping keep the guys in line or fire them up. Mentor? Encourage? Sure. Trouba is an ideal A. Right now he’s probably the best fit for the C, but I don’t love it long term. Laf is the exact personality to wear the C and be the guy who is likable enough that the entire roster loves him, but intense enough to fire them up and hold people accountable. The problem is he’s entirely unproven right now. There’s really no one else with this characteristic. Trouba is second, I suppose, and Artemi isn’t far behind, but somehow also not captain material.

It’s been one of the long time perplexities of this team. We have a ton of great As usually, but rarely a real clear C. Fox, Lindgren, Kreider, Trouba, Zib, would all be great wearing an A. Laf is the only C type personality I see on the roster, but he has to establish himself as a player before we can even talk about wearing a letter.

 

[BBKers]

I unfortunatly do not think Lindgren makes it outta next offseason as a NYR. Likely a cap casualty. Which would suck

 

[bl02]

I unfortunatly do not think Lindgren makes it outta next offseason as a NYR. Likely a cap casualty. Which would suck

Really????
If he continues to show the same chemistry with Fox and brings the same effort he has brought ever since he played his first game with the Rangers there has to be another way they can shed 3 million dollars. Would seriously suck and honestly would be complete imcompetence from the front office.
I know they have other LD in the pipeline but I'm not losing a known commodity like Lindgren who only makes 3 million bucks.

 

[LyNX27]

What outstanding work did he do (and lets change this to the AHL because it still doesn’t matter) that would make anyone think this Kid could be a middle 6 forward this year? I think im the one “ROFL” at these ridiculously high expectations some of you come up with. You either are unrealistic or you simply havent been around long enough to have experienced countless prospects not go from being studs in the AHL to even an everyday NHLer, let alone a guaranteed middle 6 forward or higher. And Barron hasn’t even been a “stud” at the AHL.

Don’t worry I know what you’re going to say, ‘he was a PPG player last year blah blah blah’ — what, against the same 4 teams on the schedule in a shortened season? I mean cmon, I hope Barron becomes a serious player as much as the next fan here, but to pencil him as a real possibility for anything more than a 4th line role to start the season (and quite frankly it could last all season) is just setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment. He may not even make the team out of camp because the organization would rather him get 1st line minutes in Hartford, aka because he wasnt going to get anything more than 4th line minutes at the NHL level.

Nope its not personal, I am just not the one who said this kid could be a middle 6 option out of the gate. Be realistic.

22 year old, 6'4, 220 lb, C/LW, with an impressive NCAA resume (Hobey Baker Finalist, ECAC PotY, DPotY Finalist), who's scored at a PPG at every level he's played at besides his 5 games in the NHL.

- Pro level shot that gets through traffic
- Protects the puck well with his strength and size
- Tends to slip through coverage for scoring chances
- Good 2-way game, at or above 50% for FO

Any player who fits the above description is trending very well, especially for a 6th round pick. If we weren't trying to jam Kakko, Lafreniere, Kravtsov, and Chytil in the top 2 lines, you would not be able to stop him from getting a cup of coffee.

The fact that our Hobey Baker Finalist is still considered our 9th best prospect by these boards shows the embarrassment of riches that are holding him back from getting a look, and every prospect listed here (ahead of Barron) is projected to be on the line-up opening day (besides Jones and Gauthier) but we'll see what he does in camp.

He's practically tailor-made to slot into a 3rd/4th line role for development.

There is a lot to like here.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Kevin Rooney is getting the C.

 

[egelband]

I found these comments interesting in reference to Suzuki and by no means am I saying I think Chytil is a 1C in the making but I think they apply here.

I do find it interesting how people talk about other young centers as opposed to here. We should be thrilled to have Fil. Guy is a horse and putting it together. To whine that he’s not great on face offs or that he has to continue to get better defensively. I mean that’s obvious. Most 21 year olds do. It’s the upside you have to just love. I’m glad Drury made it very clear they see him as a center.

I hope so. I feel like I probably undersell him. Maybe I just look for what’s not there. I’m going to have an open mind and heart this season.

 

[Tob]

I'll tell you hwat, after spending a few days reading through my local Canucks' board and a few of their threads, the amount of animosity and infighting and bickering and factions and genuine dislike for other posters is like the dead sea compared to our not quite oasis but still a nice pond with frogs and fish and turtles and stuff. We're lucky Gorton went into a full rebuild as early as humanly possible, won 2 lottos, and had the NYC advantage in attracting Bread and Fox. 7 years of Benning and their impatient UFA slot machine addicted ownership has torn that fanbase apart from the deepest pits of their souls.

 

[jay from jersey]

I unfortunatly do not think Lindgren makes it outta next offseason as a NYR. Likely a cap casualty. Which would suck

A 3 million dollar 1st pair D isn’t going to be a cap casualty.
Depending on what he wants on his next deal I could see them possibly moving, but that’s also contingent on 2 of Miller/Robertson/Jones developing and hitting their ceilings and/or Lundkvist moving to the left side full time

 

[Circus86]

I think 23 when we need to extend Laf (needs to be 8 years) and Miller we will have to somehow trade or even buyout Kreider or Trouba if they don't wave. Would hate that because both have value, but I don't see how we will make the cap work.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Trouba is gonna wear the C and all 3 As on his jersey at the same time

Callahan had a Cs and 3 As on his jersey in his rookie season, just saying...

 

[jay from jersey]

22 year old, 6'4, 220 lb, C/LW, with an impressive NCAA resume (Hobey Baker Finalist, ECAC PotY, DPotY Finalist), who's scored at a PPG at every level he's played at besides his 5 games in the NHL.

- Pro level shot that gets through traffic
- Protects the puck well with his strength and size
- Tends to slip through coverage for scoring chances
- Good 2-way game, at or above 50% for FO

Any player who fits the above description is trending very well, especially for a 6th round pick. If we weren't trying to jam Kakko, Lafreniere, Kravtsov, and Chytil in the top 2 lines, you would not be able to stop him from getting a cup of coffee.

The fact that our Hobey Baker Finalist is still considered our 9th best prospect by these boards shows the embarrassment of riches that are holding him back from getting a look, and every prospect listed here (ahead of Barron) is projected to be on the line-up opening day (besides Jones and Gauthier) but we'll see what he does in camp.

He's practically tailor-made to slot into a 3rd/4th line role for development.

There is a lot to like here.

and at 22 years old, he’s older the. Chytil. We’re not talking about a physically immature 18/19 year old kid. I’m not against him going to the AHL if he looks out of place or he can’t hold his own. But so far he hasn’t shown that. His cup of coffee last season was fine. Hopefully a solid year of offseason training improved his strength/skating even more. Time will tell if he has a good camp/preseason but as it stands now he’s not far off from the NHL. And he’s Taylor made to fit a 3rd line role with Gallant
For those that say he has to go back to the A to work on his game, I ask why? What is so egregious in his play? What sticks out as being absolutely not ready for NHL duty??
Does he have to go back to Hartford and score a PPG over a full season? Will that make him ready? Cause that didn’t mean Gauthier was ready for full time duty??
That’s not Barrons game anyway, he’s not going to be counted on to be a 40-50 pt scoring C. It won’t be his role here.
He’s going to need to be solid on the forecheck, protect the puck well, be physical, strong along the boards, and pop in a goal here and there.
All of those things he does well already, plus he’s already got the NHL body.
Literally the only reason many are saying he should go to Hartford is because Zibby-strome-chytil-Rooney have been deemed the top 4 centers. If Barron is better suited for the role, and shines at camp, I’d rather go fwd with the best formula that gives us a chance to win. Plus we get another big body in the line up.
Drury has pretty much said they want to keep him as a center, so it looks like 3C or bust. If he doesn’t win the 3C role out of camp, he likely goes back down to Hartford until a trade/injury happens later in the season.

 

[SA16]

Callahan had a Cs and 3 As on his jersey in his rookie season, just saying...

You know as I was scrolling through I was trying to think of a player to make this comment with and you’ve already beat me to the punch. I was just thinking of active players but yours is better

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You know as I was scrolling through I was trying to think of a player to make this comment with and you’ve already beat me to the punch. I was just thinking of active players but yours is better

It's perfect because they're in the right order too