European sized ice, rules and style of officiating to start, held during NA playoffs is another.
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European sized ice, rules and style of officiating to start, held during NA playoffs is another.
Well, that´s true, but the same destiny is waiting for European teams at the World Cup.
Beau Knows
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I'm all for it as long as it is at least close to best on best, otherwise it will be mostly meaningless like the World Hockey Championship. Hopefully the KHL and other European leagues support it, I just hope that this supplements NHL participation in the Olympics rather than replace it.
The big difference being that a large number of the Euro players are from the NHL and have much more experience on the small ice that vice versa.
If you look at the Canada Cup and the World Cup, the home team (team that has hosted playoff round games) won 80% of the 5 Canada Cup tournaments, and the home team in the World Cup has won 100% of the 2 tournaments, so obviously, being the home team creates an almost insurmountable advantage.
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why the knl would be ****** a season schedule and bending backwards to accommodate the nhl in order for the nt to take part in a tournament that is heavily rigged against it? it doesn't make sense whatsoever. blackmail over participating in olympic games? it's their decision. for other countries feeling responsible for it'd be moronic.
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I can't believe the KHL will participate either. It makes no sense at all. The NHL strives to sign all the best Russian and other KHL country players and bring them to NA, so the KHL is going to cooperate with them and go along with the program, so to speak? I can't see how that would benefit the KHL one kopeck! The only way would be if the NHL offered to buy the KHL's participation by offering them a huge profit-sharing plan, but that is almost impossible. The NHL is depending on the profits for its own use. Maybe the KHL will start a negotiation to see much they can get, but I don't believe the KHL will participate.
Another point - if the NHL drops out of the Olympics, how does that hurt the KHL? The KHL would then take center stage at the Olympics, the most watched sporting event in the World aside from the World Cup of Football. The names of KHL players would literally become well known throughout the World! There is no good reason for the KHL to get involved!
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Maybe some NHL team jackets, and merchandise signed by Bettman, but they won't get much of the $100 million expected in revenue for providing the tournament about 20-25 players
. The IIHF is pretty much officially involved and Russia knows it's the laughing stock of World Hockey right now, my guess is Tretiak will do anything is power for them to participate, and chances are they will since they don't want to be embarrassed once more in a best on best tournament, which would make it 3 straight. And I'm sure the likes Radulov and Kovalchuk would prefer playing in meaningful Hockey games, then wasting their early September nights playing sub par oppositions in the KHL in front of 6000 people when they'll be playing World class Hockey in front of 20,000 + each night, with millions of people watching for 2 weeks.
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Eh, if that was the case, wouldn't they play in the NHL? And SKA have the habit of selling most of their games.
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habsrule4eva3089
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I meant 20,000 + with a mix of Canadian + Russian fans, just like in Vancouver. Don't think any club game in the Ice Palace can match that atmosphere.
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you mean laughing and parroting that best vs best notion? i don't see how that'll be appropriate. someone chickens out and we are to blame? nice. and, again, why cry over what you have no control over? it'll be your decision, there is no need to heap some part of responsibility for making it on us.I'll save this quote and bring it up in 4 years time when everyone's laughing at Russia once more. Should have done this before Sochi also, now 3/4's of the posters left this board after that debacle.
But the IIHF has so little enforcement teeth, its hard to imagine that they would have any more luck pushing the KHL around than they have had with the NHL. What would they do, ban them from the WC's? I think they will just leave it to the NHL to work out.
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Why is that impossible ?
Do you know that the NHL is planning to keep the profits for itself ?
Why do you think the NHL would even ask the KHL to participate but not share profits ?
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Canada won 5/7 of those tournaments as the home team, or 71%. Canada won 3/5 Olympic tournaments, or 60%, even though there is a larger degree of parity now than in the early Canada Cup tournaments. That 11% definitely represents an insurmountable advantage.
yep, the gold will be ours, at last
Ah yes, how prestigious it would be to win an Olympic gold medal with all of the world's best players not participating. Preemptive congratulations are in order.
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Because they haven't shared any of the profits in the past and previous stories indicate they don't intend to do so this time either.
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The greatest Hockey ever seen was played at Canada Cup 87, the precursor to this tournament, and whether continuous or not, Canada Cup/World Cup has provided some of the most memorable games in Hockey history. For it to continue for the next version in 2016 the KHL's participation is mandatory and a negotiation hopefully is resolved where they will receive a fair amount in exchange for their players participating while missing the beginning of their season. I am sure after reading the Tretiak interview the RHF and players want to partake on such a grand event, secondary after the Olympics in Hockey circles. Football is able to view it's best every 2 years, why can't our sport have the same with a World Cup and Olympic Cycle. Kudos to all those involved, it looks like the NHL is working in the right manner getting the IIHF now involved and now hopefully the negotiations with the KHL are resolved and we have an announcement in a couple of weeks time.
People should not be cynical about this tournament, it should be pure excitement, the chances to see all the best players playing once more is going to be a delight!
People should not be cynical about this tournament, it should be pure excitement, the chances to see all the best players playing once more is going to be a delight!
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Ya, I'm not even convinced the Russians would be a prohibitive favorite to take gold at a non-NHL Olympics. Their chances for a medal increase somewhat, but gold is by no means a foregone conclusion.
The NHL know that if the tournament is going to grow in popularity that the games have to be entertaining. The smaller nations haven't so much gotten better as they have learned that anyone who collapses around their net for 60 minutes can keep it close, the downside obviously being that the games are virtually unwatchable. People want to see the top nations go head to head and if anything 8 teams might still be a bit too much, but it is way better than the OG or WC format.
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One Russian hockey analyst is suggesting that the Russian Ice Hockey Federation and the KHL need to get a share of the profits + a share of the profit from TV advertising revenue + home dates for ticket revenue and marketing etc.
Should be a heated negotiation for sure. Can't wait.
The same analyst suggests Russia has to participate. "It's a cool tournament".
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