Social Media Septic Tank Thread
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FLYguy3911
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I love hockey. You find the guys that think like this and exploit them.
Meanwhile...look at the goalies for the two Stanley Cup Favorites. Convenient the playoff narrative is forgotten this time.
Meanwhile...look at the goalies for the two Stanley Cup Favorites. Convenient the playoff narrative is forgotten this time.
LegionOfDoom91
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Hart’s already had two clunker of seasons in his career to this point. One of them he was the worst goalie in the entire league analytically.
That’s not taking a shot at him it’s just the nature of the position. There really aren’t many models of relative consistency when looking at the position. Lundqvist might be really the only one in the salary cap/analytic era.
There hasn’t been a goalie as impactful from year to year as top tier NFL QB’s have been over that time. You’re talking guys like Manning, Brady, Rodgers, now Mahommes, etc. guys who are perennial MVP winners/candidates on teams who are towards the top of the league standings every year.
FLYguy3911
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If anything, I'm thinking the tandem system is the way to go anymore. Better to get through the regular season and less pressure to pull the "starter" if he doesn't have it in the playoffs.
CanadianFlyer88
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Had Boston run their tandem in the playoffs like they did during the regular season, I'm convinced they'd be in the Final over Florida.
There are unicorns like Vasilevskiy, but the nature of the position has changed dramatically in recent years.
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Striiker
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LegionOfDoom91
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The underlying numbers certainly don’t support this point being made.
FLYguy3911
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The underlying numbers certainly don’t support this point being made.
And he completely contradicts his original point.
LegionOfDoom91
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I support trading Hart as long as you get a good offer for him.
Goalie is an unpredictable position. I don't think the Flyers are in a place where committing a huge long-term cap hit to keep Carter Hart in net, instead of using Hart to acquire prime assets that could advance the rebuild, is the best plan.
It's possible you end up regretting trading Hart, but if I get the right return I'll take my chances with a combination of Ersson, Kolosov, and some cheaper veterans.
Goalie is an unpredictable position. I don't think the Flyers are in a place where committing a huge long-term cap hit to keep Carter Hart in net, instead of using Hart to acquire prime assets that could advance the rebuild, is the best plan.
It's possible you end up regretting trading Hart, but if I get the right return I'll take my chances with a combination of Ersson, Kolosov, and some cheaper veterans.
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BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
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BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
Striiker
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Writing a single tweet without any spelling, grammar, or formatting mistakes is not as hard as PROFESSIONAL WRITERS make it seem.
Three in one tweet.
Three in one tweet.
GapToothedWonder
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Reported via text message by my father in law that knows nothing about hockey.
GapToothedWonder
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On further investigation he read half of a headline.
The sentence ends "division rival rangers"
The sentence ends "division rival rangers"
Striiker
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No brain in that skull
LegionOfDoom91
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The funny thing is the Flyers have had guys come in over the decades & have good seasons. Seasons where they were apart making the Flyers a relative success. They just haven’t had a single individual come in & have a like 5-10 year or whatever. But those guys are essentially hard to find in todays league/goalie environment.
In Hart’s case he’s been largely average in his time here. But he was hyped up coming in to it so it’s similar to Provorov where there’s just some that don’t want to come off that original impression.
The cheap years of Hart’s contract are coming to an end & the team stinks without a lot of hope for the foreseeable future. So there really shouldn’t be this great fear of potentially trading him.
In Hart’s case he’s been largely average in his time here. But he was hyped up coming in to it so it’s similar to Provorov where there’s just some that don’t want to come off that original impression.
The cheap years of Hart’s contract are coming to an end & the team stinks without a lot of hope for the foreseeable future. So there really shouldn’t be this great fear of potentially trading him.
Hollywood Cannon
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I know you know this but he was THE worst goalie in the NHL a couple of years ago. Now the typical fan just blames that on the team being shitty and doesn't recognize or doesn't want to acknowledge that Hart was the main culprit.
The idea that the guy is untouchable is beyond me. The idea that a "proper rebuild" is done from the net out is moronic. The idea that even if that was true that Carter Hart (given what he's done in the NHL) is the one to do it with is even crazier.
Curufinwe
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He was terrible in the Covid season, but it was also the Covid season and it sounds like he completely lost focus as a 22 year old kid spending most of his days alone in his room. I don't see that happening again.
But I'm fine with trading him. That's definitely better than giving him 8 x $7m or whatever.
But I'm fine with trading him. That's definitely better than giving him 8 x $7m or whatever.
Ghosts Beer
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Beef Invictus
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For me to feel good about dropping 10 mil on a goalie, I'd need them to turn in 1 goal saved above expected in pretty much every game for the duration of the contract. For a solid 70+ games a year.
GKJ
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Dude keeps going to Quick in 2012 as if they didn’t win in 2014 despite him.
Redpath
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"Build around a goalie" is so easily, verifiably incorrect. People just love to repeat lines like that to sound smart.
