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DrinkFightFlyers

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The whole discussion around that topic honestly seems so pointless. If the Sixers can get what they need to do so out of the city they’re leaving.

“Oh they’re updating the building to entice the Sixers to stay”. “Oh they’re bringing in Dan Hilferty to smooth things over”, etc.
Serious question about this arena discussion. The WFC is pushing 30 and that's right around when the Spectrum was done with pro sports. The WFC is definitely in better shape now than the Spectrum was towards the end, but how much longer realistically until the Flyers start a push for a new arena?
 

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Serious question about this arena discussion. The WFC is pushing 30 and that's right around when the Spectrum was done with pro sports. The WFC is definitely in better shape now than the Spectrum was towards the end, but how much longer realistically until the Flyers start a push for a new arena?

They just put a good bit of money into it renovation wise. So I’d imagine that extends it at least a few decades for now.
 
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Serious question about this arena discussion. The WFC is pushing 30 and that's right around when the Spectrum was done with pro sports. The WFC is definitely in better shape now than the Spectrum was towards the end, but how much longer realistically until the Flyers start a push for a new arena?
They’ve redone every level of the entire stadium over the last few years. They’re not getting nor wanting a new stadium anytime soon. These renovations were done so that they didn’t need to.

This off-season they’re redoing the event level which was the only level remaining untouched.
 

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They’ve redone every level of the entire stadium over the last few years. They’re not getting nor wanting a new stadium anytime soon. These renovations were done so that they didn’t need to.

This off-season they’re redoing the event level which was the only level remaining untouched.
I like WFC, especially the Liberty Lounge renovations they did recently. I feel like NHL/NBA arenas are all pretty similar. It's the baseball ones that are the most exciting when it comes to new stadiums because of all the uniquness you see around the league. IDK if there are any teams other than Oakland vying for a new MLB stadium but I hope they do some cool stuff with field dimensions like when Enron Field was first built. Remember that hill with the pole on it? I miss that.
 

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I really can't argue with what he says. The bottom line is that they are doing what they said. That's why a lot of us are unhappy. Because that doesn't seem like a winning strategy.

Well, they made a stink about rebuilding, only to go one foot in the water. But they've been upfront about not having a fire sale, so you're not wrong.

Charlie calling it a feature and not a bug doesn't make a lick of sense when people are complaining about the feature. We all know this is consistent with their plan. The feature, not bug shit just sounds clever in its dismissiveness. The fact Tortorella is weeding out the players (including making things irreparably toxic) and co-designing his vision of a contender, with serious personnel say as a member of this *gag* triumvirate, is our major problem with the feature. It's also the easy part. Wake me up when they need to make an actual player/timeline judgment call that hurts.

He also oversimplifies or ignores the idea that they're not really rebuilding rebuilding. Certainly, assets aren't going out, but it's closer to status quo (aside from culture) than he is letting on, especially as other veterans are returning from injury offsetting on-ice value losses. And I'm scoffing at him calling Provorov a "No. 1 prime-age 1 D-man" when there isn't a chance in hell that's how HE evaluates him. But it makes it sound more aggressive. And most #7 picks don't make the NHL full-time before their D+3 anyway. Just look at the recent classes for that range: Gauthier(!), Holtz, Quinn, Rossi, Perfetti, Eklund, Clarke, Guenther, Seider, Zegras, etc. Again, it just makes the Flyers sound super invested in a patient rebuild -- which I'd argue their internal 3 year timeline refutes -- when really it's maybe waiting an extra year. And we already have talk about finding a way to get Michkov here earlier.

I think it's absolutely fair game to criticize a franchise that has never undergone a rebuild in its history on the merits of whether or not they're truly all-in on a rebuild.
 

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I think it's absolutely fair game to criticize a franchise that has never undergone a rebuild in its history on the merits of whether or not they're truly all-in on a rebuild.

Honestly I think it's also fair to say that they might actually believe they really are all-in. One part of this "are they or aren't they" conversation I've always thought gets overlooked a bit is, do they even know how? I can only imagine the internal meetings.

*dream sequence*

"So the fans say they want a rebuild"

"A rebuild eh? What's...huff, huff, huff, well then, let's do a REBUILD!"

"Yeah, yeah yeah!"

"Ok so how do we do this rebuild thing?"

.............

"I think you actually trade your best players?"

"Wait, what??"

"Our boys!! That kid is gonna coach here someday!!"

"No, no, I meant the skill players. The ones we pay a lot. Then once we clear their salary, we sign the biggest FA we can. Sometimes it takes a couple years, but our data suggests fans want a rebuild"

"Oh. Well...huff, huff, huff...That seems ok"

"REBUILD!!!!!"

*Group high five*

"Somebody get me Keith Jones on the phone!"
 

mja

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The whole discussion around that topic honestly seems so pointless. If the Sixers can get what they need to do so out of the city they’re leaving.

“Oh they’re updating the building to entice the Sixers to stay”. “Oh they’re bringing in Dan Hilferty to smooth things over”, etc.
The Sixers want their own arena. Period. The value of the franchise skyrockets with a new arena, particularly one in or around Center City.
 

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Notwithstanding Adele’s merits or lack there of, is there anything more pathetic than an aging rocker being edgy?
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