GDT: SlugHawks @ Stars, 07 Nov 2024, 7 PM CT

[Salvaged Ship]

Donato Bedard Teravainen
Bertuzzi Foligno Hall
Kurashev Dickinson Mikheyev
Maroon Reichel Smith

Next game boom genius

And we will still lose 3-1 unfortunately

 

[GIADF]

Should, realistically, probably not. Not many teams who are torn down to the studs are competitive in less than 5 years.

I don’t expect them to be competitive for say a WC spot next year, but we need to see improved performance at least via the eye test. This is year 4 of basically being terrible. Plenty of picks have been accumulated the last few years and more to come.

Allan, Dach, EDM
Korchinski, Nazar
Bedard, Moore
Levshunov (long shot)
Top 3 pick

These are all guys that we are going to start to need to see something from. Not asking them to jump in and be all stars from day 1, but push out bums like Maroon, Mikheyev, etc.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I don’t expect them to be competitive for say a WC spot next year, but we need to see improved performance at least via the eye test. This is year 4 of basically being terrible. Plenty of picks have been accumulated the last few years and more to come.

Allan, Dach, EDM
Korchinski, Nazar
Bedard, Moore
Levshunov (long shot)
Top 3 pick

These are all guys that we are going to start to need to see something from. Not asking them to jump in and be all stars from day 1, but push out bums like Maroon, Mikheyev, etc.

It's year 4 of being terrible, but really only year 2 of the plan.

Allan, Dach, EDM, are going to be at best depth players more than likely,
Nazar probably needs a year or 2 before he's a legit NHLer, if he can be that.
Korchinski is probably a couple of years minimum from being a really good Dman, if he becomes one.
Moore who knows,
Lev is like 3 years away.

It's not going to improve much next year, and the year after, we hopefully improve, but probably still a bottom 10 team.

How I see it going
24-25 = Bottom 5
25-26 = Bottom 7-10 - Some prospects take a leap, but still need seasoning
26-27 = Bottom 12 - Couple more prospects take a leap, 1 or 2 take a big leap
27-28 = Bottom 15 - Have the core figured out, last year of Jones shit contract/sign big UFAs to fill out the team
28-29 = Playoff team, learning how to win in the playoffs
29-30 = Legit contender

 

[CanadianHawks]

5 more years until we can be a top contender? Okay

5 more years of being bad? Management has been cleaned out from Davidson to the scouts. We have a ton of cap and a ton of assets. Five more years of being terrible when we have a piece like Bedard and now Vlasic locked up on a sweetheart deal is comical

What are we Arizona? Last I checked we spend to the cap and don’t lack resources.

Hawks have 10 first round picks in a 4 year span. Tons of cap.

Hawks probably have two more years of non playoffs. This year and next. After that if Davidson doesn’t make the playoffs in year 5 he’s shit canned

 

[CanadianHawks]

It's year 4 of being terrible, but really only year 2 of the plan.

Allan, Dach, EDM, are going to be at best depth players more than likely,
Nazar probably needs a year or 2 before he's a legit NHLer, if he can be that.
Korchinski is probably a couple of years minimum from being a really good Dman, if he becomes one.
Moore who knows,
Lev is like 3 years away.

It's not going to improve much next year, and the year after, we hopefully improve, but probably still a bottom 10 team.

How I see it going
24-25 = Bottom 5
25-26 = Bottom 7-10 - Some prospects take a leap, but still need seasoning
26-27 = Bottom 12 - Couple more prospects take a leap, 1 or 2 take a big leap
27-28 = Bottom 15 - Have the core figured out, last year of Jones shit contract/sign big UFAs to fill out the team
28-29 = Playoff team, learning how to win in the playoffs
29-30 = Legit contender

Are you just assuming that we never use our assets? We have too many prospects/picks and not enough roster spots. We will package multiple of these picks or prospects for a star player in the next year or so. He already took a swing at Guentzel

 

[Hattrick Kane]

It's year 4 of being terrible, but really only year 2 of the plan.

Allan, Dach, EDM, are going to be at best depth players more than likely,
Nazar probably needs a year or 2 before he's a legit NHLer, if he can be that.
Korchinski is probably a couple of years minimum from being a really good Dman, if he becomes one.
Moore who knows,
Lev is like 3 years away.

It's not going to improve much next year, and the year after, we hopefully improve, but probably still a bottom 10 team.

How I see it going
24-25 = Bottom 5
25-26 = Bottom 7-10 - Some prospects take a leap, but still need seasoning
26-27 = Bottom 12 - Couple more prospects take a leap, 1 or 2 take a big leap
27-28 = Bottom 15 - Have the core figured out, last year of Jones shit contract/sign big UFAs to fill out the team
28-29 = Playoff team, learning how to win in the playoffs
29-30 = Legit contender

Don’t be down on the depth. Those guys play an important role in good teams. You don’t want to end up like Edmonton either where if your big 3 players don’t go god mode every game, you lose because your team has no depth.

 

[BobbyJet]

It's year 4 of being terrible, but really only year 2 of the plan.

Year 4? .... more like year 7. It just took a few years before Stan (and many here) realized the team was on their way down even though the writing was on the wall as far as I was concerned.

 

[BobbyJet]

Don’t be down on the depth. Those guys play an important role in good teams. You don’t want to end up like Edmonton either where if your big 3 players don’t go god mode every game, you lose because your team has no depth.

No question of that.

 

[Clownish]

Are you just assuming that we never use our assets? We have too many prospects/picks and not enough roster spots. We will package multiple of these picks or prospects for a star player in the next year or so. He already took a swing at Guentzel

And yet he wants to take on 11.5 mil for the next 8 years of EP40! Again, buffoonery with that one.

 

[BobbyJet]

Are you just assuming that we never use our assets? We have too many prospects/picks and not enough roster spots. We will package multiple of these picks or prospects for a star player in the next year or so. He already took a swing at Guentzel

How he handles those assets is a big, no make that huge, test for KD and his career as a GM in Chicago. It will probably make the difference between Hawks floundering for the next decade or so or returning to respectability.

 

[MarotteMarauder]

As you say, the give-and-go is a play NO PRO hockey player needs to be taught. Luke isn't on the ice making the dumb decisions. Luke doesn't tell the players not to execute. It is too dam easy to blame the coach for having a shitty team to work with.

He puts a dumb player to QB the PP though doesn't he? Does he correct the situation or just carry on with the same crap?

 

[SimpleJack]

It's year 4 of being terrible, but really only year 2 of the plan.

Allan, Dach, EDM, are going to be at best depth players more than likely,
Nazar probably needs a year or 2 before he's a legit NHLer, if he can be that.
Korchinski is probably a couple of years minimum from being a really good Dman, if he becomes one.
Moore who knows,
Lev is like 3 years away.

It's not going to improve much next year, and the year after, we hopefully improve, but probably still a bottom 10 team.

How I see it going
24-25 = Bottom 5
25-26 = Bottom 7-10 - Some prospects take a leap, but still need seasoning
26-27 = Bottom 12 - Couple more prospects take a leap, 1 or 2 take a big leap
27-28 = Bottom 15 - Have the core figured out, last year of Jones shit contract/sign big UFAs to fill out the team
28-29 = Playoff team, learning how to win in the playoffs
29-30 = Legit contender

Not a legit contender till when? 2030?!?!?

Thats ridiculous.

If we aren't competing for the playoffs by 27/28 something went wrong. I think 26/27 is even a potential playoff year, though probably nothing more than that(1st round exit potentially).

 

[ClydeLee]

Not a legit contender till when? 2030?!?!?

Thats ridiculous.

If we aren't competing for the playoffs by 27/28 something went wrong. I think 26/27 is even a potential playoff year, though probably nothing more than that(1st round exit potentially).

Competing for playoffs is not a legit contender. I guess that's up to hoe you define a legit contender, but for one, I'd say Toronto has never been a legit contender in this era. They've always been clearly flawed as a roster and not a serious threat.

Teardown rebuilds often do not really result in playoffs or playoff series wins at all in 6 years

 

[CanadianHawks]

And yet he wants to take on 11.5 mil for the next 8 years of EP40! Again, buffoonery with that one.

Vancouver would be extremely stupid to move him but yes they should be trying to acquire high level star players

 

[Dead Meat]

Just sayin....I f***ing love the name Slughawks

 

[Hawkaholic]

Not a legit contender till when? 2030?!?!?

Thats ridiculous.

If we aren't competing for the playoffs by 27/28 something went wrong. I think 26/27 is even a potential playoff year, though probably nothing more than that(1st round exit potentially).

So you have them doing it one year earlier than me basically? Lol year 5 from drafting Bedard after completely tearing it down to nothing is a reasonable timeline for making the playoffs, or being on the edge.

 

[Crow]

I don’t think it’s a matter of years or time.

It’s going to take one hundred thousand more shit posts bitching about Bedard, Davidson, Richardson, and the rest of the franchise before we are competitive.

I’d say get to work boys, but I think we’ll get there shortly at this rate.