Confirmed Trade: [SJS/EDM] D Cody Ceci, '25 3rd round pick for D Ty Emberson

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Lmao what? He's rebuilt the prospect pool into the best in the league, cleared tons of cap space, and has more draft picks for the 2025 draft/assets to trade for more picks.

We're going to have to endure 10+ years of what exactly....and just because they traded a guy who was a 23 year old waiver claim last fall? Sure they took on Ceci's contract...but that's why they got a 3rd round pick.
And they’ll likely be able to move Ceci at the deadline for another pick in the 2-4 round range depending on his play. Hes got lots of playoff experience and his expiring contract will be manageable
 
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Now that Ceci is gone I'll be real interested to see who Nurse's partner in crime is on the 2nd pairing at the start of the season. At the moment Edmonton really doesn't have a legit 2nd pairing RD.
Rasmus Andersson would look pretty good there.
Oiler fans seem to think they have the cap room issue
Arviddsson. Skinner. Henrique? Yall sleep through free agency?

We know clueless Armstrong did. Maybe he's taking advice from the legend Pete Chiarelli.


Blues kind of had to because they are desperate to make the playoffs.

They have an old D-core that is bad and aging out to go with their flash in the pan starter that hasn't done anything since the cup year.

Then some run of the mill forwards making big bucks. Kind of a stuck in the mediocre middle situation going on. Good luck to them in 5-6 years when they are back to being competitive.
Dude you come across as such a jaded guy right now. Regardless of what happens your team just got weaker thanks to dumb management.

If you match both guys you are six million over the cap but that can be wittled down to about 3.5 million.
Kane will not miss the entire season and no GM is stupid enough to use LTIR in the way the oilers fans are suggesting because once he comes back everything is fuc*ed.
So unless another trade over 3.5 million happens, or 2.5 million if you let hollow walk and replace with Podz, matching Broberg would be incredibley risky.


So assuming they don't match Broberg

Nurse - Stecher
Ekholm- Bouchard
Kulak - Emberson
Brown
That's a joke of a Dcorp that will get destroyed. I legit feel bad for Skinner.

Even if they do match Broberg, he's getting hyped after 10 playoff games where he was fresh and put up 3 points in ten games. I'd bet that he gets clobbered trying to handle Ceci's 37% offensive zone starts .

And I'm sorry but your ufa signings were not some God damn revelations. 3 million for a guy just bought out for a ton is average at best, 4 million for an oft injured Ardvidson is meh and Henrique is again Meh and certainly doesn't makeup for what might be the worst defense of any playoff hopeful.
Seriously, you have one above average defender in Ekholm and a bunch of liabilities
 
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Lol at the people saying it would cost a 1st to dump Ceci
I can't believe it cost anything to dump the last year of Ceci's deal. This is a guy that would have been claimed on waivers.

Now San Jose gets to retain 50% and trade Ceci for at least 2nd + 4th round picks at the deadline to a team like Dallas or Las Vegas. If Chiarot can net a 1st.. who knows how high San Jose can aim.

This was a great trade for San Jose. They give away the equivalent of future considerations for what will end up being several solid picks.

Ceci played middle pair for Edmonton last season. 20 minutes a game. And now they have to give those minutes to a dude that was on the worst team in the NHL last year and.. wouldn't even crack the roster of most teams in the NHL.
 

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I can't believe it cost anything to dump the last year of Ceci's deal. This is a guy that would have been claimed on waivers.

Now San Jose gets to retain 50% and trade him for 2nd and 4th round picks at the deadline to a team like Dallas or Las Vegas.

This was a great trade for San Jose. They give away the equivalent of future considerations for what will end up being several solid picks.
Are you forgetting Emberson? Getting a young promising RHD that the coach is already familiar with is great.
 
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Oilers are the big losers here, not only bleeding assets but paying Broberg more than 2x what they should.

Big blow.

... and if Kane is healthy before the playoffs, things could get dicey. Even with him on LTIR, they will have no buffer in case of injuries. Tough first summer for Bowman.
Kane might not even get the surgery but even if he does he won't miss anywhere near that long. If that was the case the surgery would have happened in June.
Oilers have to clear 3-4 million more to keep Broberg.

What a mess Jackson caused spending 10 million on forwards in UFA while losing Vinny, Ceci and very likely one or both of Holloway and Broberg.
 

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Good deal for Edmonton. Decent for SJ, assuming they can trade Ceci as a rental later for a good return. Isn't Emberson a pretty good player?
Emberson? He's played a grand total of 30 NHL games and has a -4.2 expected goals for, 42% corsi (0% relative to his San Jose mates), doesn't block shots or ever take the puck away.

Emberson wouldn't make most NHL teams.
 
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Kane might not even get the surgery but even if he does he won't miss anywhere near that long. If that was the case the surgery would have happened in June.
Oilers have to clear 3-4 million more to keep Broberg.

What a mess Jackson caused spending 10 million on forwards in UFA while losing Vinny, Ceci and very likely one or both of Holloway and Broberg.
If it's both a hernia and a hip issue as reported, he'll be on LTIR for a while. We have the space for matching both if he goes on LTIR and Brown is sent to the AHL. If we trade Kulak, we're cap compliant when Nurse comes back.
 

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Don't understand the Oilers infatuation with matching that Broberg deal.

As others have saidd, his play doesn't align with the dollar figure and it also complicates things much more so for next offseason for them.

Figured they would let him walk.
 

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Emberson? He's played a grand total of 30 NHL games and has a -4.2 expected goals for, 42% corsi (0% relative to his San Jose mates), doesn't block shots or ever take the puck away.

Emberson wouldn't make most NHL teams.
Disagree. I think you'll be surprised.
 

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Are you forgetting Emberson? Getting a young promising RHD that the coach is already familiar with is great.
LOL. Promising? He's barely played in the NHL as a 24 year old. 30 total games with really meager stats. And unlike Ceci who was durable, this guy suffered a major injury in his only NHL season.

But if you like guys that played meh hockey on a horrible team for a hot minute... Emberson is your guy. He's clearly ready for the NHL playoffs. What about his resume doesn't scream get me 20 minutes a game in the playoffs vs Dallas.

He's also quite a bit smaller than Ceci... perfect to anchor your PK.
 

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Don't understand the Oilers infatuation with matching that Broberg deal.

As others have saidd, his play doesn't align with the dollar figure and it also complicates things much more so for next offseason for them.

Figured they would let him walk.
Not at all. You trade Kulak to let the Bro play on the left. 2 years from now, Ek's contract is done and he's 36. Broberg gets an opportunity here.
 

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I can't believe it cost anything to dump the last year of Ceci's deal. This is a guy that would have been claimed on waivers.

Now San Jose gets to retain 50% and trade Ceci for at least 2nd + 4th round picks at the deadline to a team like Dallas or Las Vegas. If Chiarot can net a 1st.. who knows how high San Jose can aim.

This was a great trade for San Jose. They give away the equivalent of future considerations for what will end up being several solid picks.

Ceci played middle pair for Edmonton last season. 20 minutes a game. And now they have to give those minutes to a dude that was on the worst team in the NHL last year and.. wouldn't even crack the roster of most teams in the NHL.
SJ has no retention slots left this year until the Burns retention is off the books. Still could get anywhere from 2-4th Rd pick at the deadline for Ceci.

Emberson has upside, but he also hasn't been able to stay healthy and had to reach 50 NHL games this year or else he's UFA. And the Sharks are up against the 50 contract limit.

Sharks fans are mixed on the move, but a fair assessment seems to be that we upgraded our RD even though Ceci has warts, and we lost an upside player but one who also may never be more than a bottom pair RD or even an asset we could keep.

People claiming that SJ gave the Oilers an assist here may be right... Or they may be very wrong about the depth of the market willing to take him as a cap dump. The oilers were under a time crunch but there may have been 3-4 willing teams, and since they had no 1-2rd picks in 2025, maybe a 2025 3rd and a "prospect" going the other way is as good as it was going to get.

I'd have preferred the Sharks not to ship out an RD. but it'll be funny if the Oilers choose to waive one of theirs and we pick them up, doubly so if it's Emberson again.
 

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Disagree. I think you'll be surprised.
I think you'll be surprised how much your playoff roster misses guys like Ceci, McLeod, Foegele, maybe Holloway. Guys that thrive when the sport becomes about size, speed, playing simple hockey.

Here is your new guy vs Nate MacKinnon. Perfect playoff play. Tough and very ineffective. This guy clearly isn't as big a Ceci. Not nearly as durable either.

It's going to be appropriate when Edmonton goes into the 2025 playoffs with just one or maybe none of Skinner, Avadsson and Emberson even available to suit up.


 
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Lmao what? He's rebuilt the prospect pool into the best in the league, cleared tons of cap space, and has more draft picks for the 2025 draft/assets to trade for more picks.

We're going to have to endure 10+ years of what exactly....and just because they traded a guy who was a 23 year old waiver claim last fall? Sure they took on Ceci's contract...but that's why they got a 3rd round pick.
Even if SJ can use Ceci they are likely the only rebuilding team who have room for another defenseman. Should have gotten at least a 2nd to take him.
 

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Lmao what? He's rebuilt the prospect pool into the best in the league, cleared tons of cap space, and has more draft picks for the 2025 draft/assets to trade for more picks.

We're going to have to endure 10+ years of what exactly....and just because they traded a guy who was a 23 year old waiver claim last fall? Sure they took on Ceci's contract...but that's why they got a 3rd round pick.
Any normal muppet could’ve done twice as good. As soon as he retained 35 years on Hertl I knew he was an elite muppet.
 
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Emberson isn't anything special but could be able to be a solid bottom pair guy. Was alright in San Jose, although didn't play a ton and the team had one of the worst D cores in recent memory so take that how you will.
 
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Not at all. You trade Kulak to let the Bro play on the left. 2 years from now, Ek's contract is done and he's 36. Broberg gets an opportunity here.
Trading a solid veteran defenseman so we can keep a question mark is bad management. We're trying to win a cup. You don't dump solid playoff warriors like Kulak if you're trying to win a cup.
 

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Even if SJ can use Ceci they are likely the only rebuilding team who hve room for another defenseman. Should have gotten at least a 2nd to take him.
Any normal muppet could’ve done twice as good. As soon as he retained 35 years on Hertl I knew he was an elite muppet.
Yup, just two internet GMs here who could've made better trades based on nothing but their own speculation.

You're calling an NHL general mamager a muppet because he traded a recent waiver claim for a third round pick...
 

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LOL. Promising? He's barely played in the NHL as a 24 year old. 30 total games with really meager stats. And unlike Ceci who was durable, this guy suffered a major injury in his only NHL season.

But if you like guys that played meh hockey on a horrible team for a hot minute... Emberson is your guy. He's clearly ready for the NHL playoffs. What about his resume doesn't scream get me 20 minutes a game in the playoffs vs Dallas.

He's also quite a bit smaller than Ceci... perfect to anchor your PK.
So salty! 🤣 Dude got 10 pts in his first 30 games playing for the freaking Sharks. You haven't liked anything the Oilers have done period. Just walk away from the keyboard for a bit maybe?

Look. Stan has played this first hurdle masterfully so far. Ceci had to go and everyone knew it. He's brought in some young prospects that look to be able to play in the big show, and also made room to match both players. Far cry from the bleakness of last week.
 

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