Confirmed with Link: Sir Patrick Roy named Isles head coach!

[habdynasty]

hes Lou’s bitch now. Shave that beard boy.

 

[Milhouse40]

Owners and GMs love yes men and he’s not that so I think him being alpha or just an asshole can be hard to manage

They don't love yes man, but they do want team player.....and this is where the problem lies with Roy, he's stubborn, outspoken and don't play really well with others. Those are qualities and problems at the same time, not every team wants that in their organization.

But one thing for sure.....he needs to be in an organization that wants to win now, that's where this type of coach will fit.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I dunno…maybe the mystical last two cup wins? Cups that should not have happened if not for his greatness at peak time? Maybe because his style lead way to a generation of technical goalies, that brought forth the likes of Luongo, Fleury, Price et al?

He’s a Montreal Canadiens HOF icon. That might explain this cult. I dunno, just guessing here.

And although his coaching record to some is not much (still won twise as much as he lost), he’s such an immense figure because of his status in hockey and his extraordinary will to win.

Look at this forum : we even created a thread for him, and he’s coaching another team! Go look at social media: it’s been set on fire in this province, on a day where our venerated hockey team gets shallacked by a traditional rival as it they weren’t in the same league.

I think by having this thread, you should have answered your own question.

This week will all be about the Thursday game. RDS will get AWESOME ratings for that one. And there is a good chance that we get pummeled physically during that game. New coach, new energy. And facing a team of whimps.

Reality TV garners great ratings too. Everyone loves a car crash.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That’s what not as well known - at a time when analytics wasn’t even part of players vocabulary, St.Patrick would be analyzing the oppositions data, habits & trends (in the 80s no less)

Analytics were well known. Roy also won that Jack Adams with some of the worst analytics in the league.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yes because otherwise we wouldn't have tanked at all.

Yeah. With Roy we’d have won cups already I’m sure. I mean just look at this roster…

 

[Runner77]

TVA Spanre predictably jumping on the bandwagon for Roy’s first game as Isles coach tonight.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Well his nhl numbers as a coach are better than MSL/Ducharme/Julien as Habs head coach

MSL is running a complete rebuild. Roy has nowhere near the tenure Julien does and that guy actuality won a cup.

After 1 year Roy had already won coach of the year. He has a career winning nhl record, 2 mem cups, MSL coached his son in pee wee and bantam great hire for sure

And he sent his son out to fight another goalie, had multiple tantrums behind the bench and had a meltdown on Sakic before taking off. That same club (who he argued was doing things the wrong way) went on to win a cup without him and remain contenders now.

 

[vokiel]

Yeah. With Roy we’d have won cups already I’m sure. I mean just look at this roster…

They'd be another pathetic incarnation of a bubble team, achieving nothing and going nowhere. At least with an unqualified coach we're going in one direction: Down.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I really don’t think he rescued Caufield’s career lol I feel like that’s way overblown. Replace DD with a piece of wood and he would’ve played better. Caufield is too talented and confident to stay in the funk he was in and he was still green

No doubt that if DD had stayed CC would’ve never hit expectations. It’d be another Galchenyuk situation where we badly misused a player and he never reached his potential. Could another coach have done that? Okay… maybe. But the point is that MSL actually did rescue him.

And look at Guehle, Slaf, Dach, Newhook… all developing really well - when healthy. He’s the perfect coach for what we’re doing now.

To be fair Roy had a damn good team but he still deserves some credit

Okay. Credit him for his success in the minors. Credit him for his Jack Adams. But don’t forget how his relationships tend to end. He’s highly volatile. You really want that kind of chaos around a bunch of developing kids? I mean, how can you not be happy with the job MSL has done here? You really think Roy would be better?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

They'd be another pathetic incarnation of a bubble team, achieving nothing and going nowhere. At least with an unqualified coach we're going in one direction: Down.

Our prospects are developing. That’s all I care about right now. Nobody in their right mind should be expecting us to be contenders. We’re far too young and in the middle of a rebuild.

MSL is the best coach we’ve had in eons. And no I don’t give a shit about his win/loss record. Therrien had a great record with us and he was the worst coach in the league.

 

[Milhouse40]

TVA Spanre predictably jumping on the bandwagon for Roy’s first game as Isles coach tonight.

They will do what they do.

 

[Runner77]

They will do what they do.

What happened to Roy’s beard?

 

[morhilane]

What happened to Roy’s beard?

Lou fired it.

 

[vokiel]

Our prospects are developing. That’s all I care about right now. Nobody in their right mind should be expecting us to be contenders. We’re far too young and in the middle of a rebuild.

MSL is the best coach we’ve had in eons. And no I don’t give a shit about his win/loss record. Therrien had a great record with us and he was the worst coach in the league.

Tell me that in a few years.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Tell me that in a few years.

What do you think MSL should be doing differently?

 

[vokiel]

What do you think MSL should be doing differently?

Nothing, leave him be.. As long as we tank, I don't care whether he decided to skip coaching training or not. If you eventually re-sign him though, it might be good to get assistants with more experience.

 

[Habs]

Alpha male?
Seriously?

You think that's why some don't want him as a coach?

Absolutely, they can't control him. Robinson was an Alpha male too, MSL is a total Beta who fits the mold of management, a total puppet. Doesn't make MSL a bad guy, just means Marty will accept whatever bag of dweebs he's given and say 'thanks'. Guys like Roy would demand a certain team to fit their idea of what works. Guys like Arbs would be up here, useless pleebs like Armia, Evans, Harris would be on the farm. The response from Marty after getting cringed out in the goofy ceremony, then allowing the boys to miss assignements and let players go untouched around the net .. pathetic. I don't need guys running around like idiots hitting people, but just an ounce of pride in the CH, perhaps stemming from the guy behind the bench, that would be nice. Anderson , who gets mocked relentlessly , he gets it. I bet they trade him, they don't want guys like that here , I'm convinced of it. Pez is probably gone too.

This rebuild is going to be even more painful if the coach isn't demanding 100% on the ice. Just an ounce of emotion from the knuckleheads back there , that's what I want. Chew somebody out? Anyone?

 

[Runner77]

He’s probably matured in some aspects but am wondering if we’re going to see him calling out players in the media, should things stagnate:

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Tell me that in a few years.

It will still be true. If only because the previous few coaches were giant turds.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Nothing, leave him be.. As long as we tank, I don't care whether he decided to skip coaching training or not. If you eventually re-sign him though, it might be good to get assistants with more experience.

You think we wouldn’t be tanking had we hired Roy?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

He’s probably matured in some aspects but am wondering if we’re going to see him calling out players in the media, should things stagnate:

Roy was absolutely right but you don't do it in public. You rip him a new one behind closed doors. I know a manager who was fired because they couldn't grasp that concept.

Absolutely, they can't control him. Robinson was an Alpha male too, MSL is a total Beta who fits the mold of management, a total puppet. Doesn't make MSL a bad guy, just means Marty will accept whatever bag of dweebs he's given and say 'thanks'. Guys like Roy would demand a certain team to fit their idea of what works. Guys like Arbs would be up here, useless pleebs like Armia, Evans, Harris would be on the farm. The response from Marty after getting cringed out in the goofy ceremony, then allowing the boys to miss assignements and let players go untouched around the net .. pathetic. I don't need guys running around like idiots hitting people, but just an ounce of pride in the CH, perhaps stemming from the guy behind the bench, that would be nice. Anderson , who gets mocked relentlessly , he gets it. I bet they trade him, they don't want guys like that here , I'm convinced of it. Pez is probably gone too.

This rebuild is going to be even more painful if the coach isn't demanding 100% on the ice. Just an ounce of emotion from the knuckleheads back there , that's what I want. Chew somebody out? Anyone?

What are you talking about????? Do you think they beat teams like Colorado without giving 100%???????????

 

[vokiel]

You think we wouldn’t be tanking had we hired Roy?

Correct, because Roy is a winner at all cost kind of person. So he would push everyone harder, much harder. He would probably give limited ice time to developing players and we would end up being a playoff bubble team for another decade.

Reasoning being that the NHL isn't a development league. Not for coaches and not for players either. Hughes decided to ride that fine line, because fans accepted we are on a rebuild. That's good, until the draft picks no longer show up on the starting squad and people start asking for results. This is when we'll know whether development was effective or not and whether MSL was a good coach with a bad record.

 

[Runner77]

Roy was absolutely right but you don't do it in public. You rip him a new one behind closed doors. I know a manager who was fired because they couldn't grasp that concept.


What are you talking about????? Do you think they beat teams like Colorado without giving 100%???????????

That’s where the maturity aspect should kick in. He still looks like he has that fire in his belly but his time in juniors should have taught him that some things are best dealt with privately.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Absolutely, they can't control him. Robinson was an Alpha male too, MSL is a total Beta who fits the mold of management, a total puppet. Doesn't make MSL a bad guy, just means Marty will accept whatever bag of dweebs he's given and say 'thanks'. Guys like Roy would demand a certain team to fit their idea of what works. Guys like Arbs would be up here, useless pleebs like Armia, Evans, Harris would be on the farm. The response from Marty after getting cringed out in the goofy ceremony, then allowing the boys to miss assignements and let players go untouched around the net .. pathetic. I don't need guys running around like idiots hitting people, but just an ounce of pride in the CH, perhaps stemming from the guy behind the bench, that would be nice. Anderson , who gets mocked relentlessly , he gets it. I bet they trade him, they don't want guys like that here , I'm convinced of it. Pez is probably gone too.

This rebuild is going to be even more painful if the coach isn't demanding 100% on the ice. Just an ounce of emotion from the knuckleheads back there , that's what I want. Chew somebody out? Anyone?

1. Larry Robinson and Patrick Roy are night and day different. Larry can coach here anytime.

2. Your whole MSL is a spineless company man is based on nothing.

3. Pezz probably will get dealt at some point. That’s what happens with scrubs. But the whole MSL doesn’t want a physical team makes no sense at all.

4. I have zero problem with a coach chewing someone out. But you don’t have to do it in front of the cameras.

Being a jackass and bashing players on the TV is not alpha in any way. They can’t control him? Then why the f*** would you hire him? You’re supposed to be working together.

And again, last time he was in the NHL he stormed off on Sakic for not doing things his way. Sakic promptly built a contender and won a cup.

Why the hell do we want this guy again?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Correct, because Roy is a winner at all cost kind of person.

So what happened in Colorado?

He storms off and they build a contender and win.

So he would push everyone harder, much harder. He would probably give limited ice time to developing players and we would end up being a playoff bubble team for another decade.

You know who coached that way? Therrien. Worst coach in the league. Great record though - until Price would get hurt. Then we’d fall to last place.

Reasoning being that the NHL isn't a development league. Not for coaches and not for players either. Hughes decided to ride that fine line, because fans accepted we are on a rebuild. That's good, until the draft picks no longer show up on the starting squad and people start asking for results. This is when we'll know whether development was effective or not and whether MSL was a good coach with a bad record.

The NHL is absolutely a development league when you’re rebuilding. Tons of teams have done it before with great success. And you need the right kind of coach for that. Not a guy who’s going to scream at you and bench you after a mistake. We “developed” that way for years and it didn’t work.

All I heard around here was that TT couldn’t draft. Well look at his late picks now. Many are panning out all of a sudden because we’re developing them the right way.

Roy would be a huge step backwards. It’s beyond me how you could watch how we ran things for the last thirty years and think going back to that old way is going to yield success. Haven’t we learned anything from those Pat gongshows?