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Should Toronto trade away our 1st to ditch Murray?

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Should Toronto trade away our 1st to ditch Murray?

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TMLife17 said:
This. No chance we buyout. No chance.

He's going with an asset. Probably a similar deal to what we did with Mrazek. Trade back in the draft a bit
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Yep. The Mrazek deal seems like the worst case scenario with Murray, and no one with half a brain would say the cost in that trade was a first round pick unless they're being disingenuous to make some stupid point.

The cost of dumping Mrazek was moving back in the draft from 25th to 38th. The value of that is... what... a late 2nd or something? Murray will have a slightly higher cap hit, but for only one year instead of two, and will cost the acquiring team a couple million dollars less in actual money. He was also much better this year than Mrazek was last year and is somehow actually less injury prone over the last couple years.

Just using Mrazek as a comparison, it might cost them a 3rd or something to move Murray if they really need to make it happen.
 
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Murray will not have negative value he is a serviceable oft injured goalie on the last year of his contract he might get a late round pick or future considerations but in all reality shouldnt cost to move
 
No? He can still back up, and if he's hurt he can go on LTIR. If Sammy brings us to the second round then he will presumably be resigned, and you probably don't want starter-ready Woll spending too much time on the bench anyway as backup
 
no more throwing away 1st rounders to get rid of someone. Use him on LTIR for all I care, send him to Robidas Island that was created by Lou.

We already don't have much assets; no need to dump him.
 
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No? He can still back up, and if he's hurt he can go on LTIR. If Sammy brings us to the second round then he will presumably be resigned, and you probably don't want starter-ready Woll spending too much time on the bench anyway as backup
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We won't be re-signing ROR if we still have Murray on the roster, it's almost a given. And I'd rather even a chance to re-sign ROR.
 
Maximize moving Sandin for something more than moving Murray.
 
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Murray will be on Robidas island but if not I am sure he'll be traded to a tanking team. Won't require a first.
 
No - there's retention on the cap hit now and one year left/less on term.
 
Way too premature to think about it

We don't know what his health status will be; we also don't know what the goalie market will be like and which teams may need a warm body just yet
 
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If it costs a first then obviously yes. Get rid of him asap. If you can do it for less than obviously that instead. No idea what the cost would be but any cap on Murray is an anchor that a contender doesn’t need.
 
I wouldn’t be against doing something like the mrazek deal if it were to pop up

Trade the 20ish pick back to the 40-50 range whilst dumping murray
 
Aashir Mallick said:
I wouldn’t be against doing something like the mrazek deal if it were to pop up

Trade the 20ish pick back to the 40-50 range whilst dumping murray
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I believe even if the Bruins dip out of the playoffs in the first round the best that pick can be is 28th.
 
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Boston 1st + Matt Murray to Chicago for Tampa’s 2nd is the type of deal I’d be looking at. Moving back 20-25 spots in the draft to get rid of Murray and save 4.65 million is worth it Imo. If we could move him for less or LTIR him for the season, even better. But carrying Matt Murray’s cap hit next season is not an option.
 
Puckstuff said:
Boston 1st + Matt Murray to Chicago for Tampa’s 2nd is the type of deal I’d be looking at. Moving back 20-25 spots in the draft to get rid of Murray and save 4.65 million is worth it Imo. If we could move him for less or LTIR him for the season, even better. But carrying Matt Murray’s cap hit next season is not an option.
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No it’s not. He’s going to end up on LTIR anyways. So we can carry him for 1 year I also don’t think it’ll cost a first to move him
 
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Puckstuff said:
What inside information do you have that guarantees Murray will end up on LTIR? Please do share.
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He’s been on LTIR the last 3 years. He can’t even play 25 games. I’m not saying he’s going to start on LTIR but he’ll end up there for sure. If teams are asking for a first I pass. We don’t have to move him. It’s 1 year. He’s not going to play more than 20-30 next year. Just carry 3 goalies. Easiest solution. Or if a team will take him for anything less than a 1st you pull that trigger.
 
francis246 said:
He’s been on LTIR the last 3 years. He can’t even play 25 games. I’m not saying he’s going to start on LTIR but he’ll end up there for sure. If teams are asking for a first I pass. We don’t have to move him. It’s 1 year. He’s not going to play more than 20-30 next year. Just carry 3 goalies. Easiest solution. Or if a team will take him for anything less than a 1st you pull that trigger.
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Your most makes no sense. If we have to carry Matt Murray from day 1 of the regular season as a salaried player, it prevents us from signing an impact player worth 4.65 million in the offseason. Putting him on LTIR even on game 2 of the regular season doesn’t help us.
 
Puckstuff said:
Your most makes no sense. If we have to carry Matt Murray from day 1 of the regular season as a salaried player, it prevents us from signing an impact player worth 4.65 million in the offseason. Putting him on LTIR even on game 2 of the regular season doesn’t help us.
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No it makes perfect sense, most GM’s make their biggest mistakes on July 1st. You want to move our first round pick with a bad contract to make room to sign another bad contract that we’ll all hate and want moved in 2 years. Instead of being patient, use LTIR space when it comes for the deadline because it will for Murray? Yeah I rather gamble and keep Murray for 1 year at a bad cap than sign a terrible UFA contract for 3 or 4 years.
 
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francis246 said:
No it makes perfect sense, most GM’s make their biggest mistakes on July 1st. You want to move our first round pick with a bad contract to make room to sign another bad contract that we’ll all hate and want moved in 2 years. Instead of being patient, use LTIR space when it comes for the deadline because it will for Murray? Yeah I rather gamble and keep Murray for 1 year at a bad cap than sign a terrible UFA contract for 3 or 4 years.
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I said move down 20 spots from Boston's 1st to Tampa's 2nd. I would make that trade to get rid of Murray so we can keep all 3 of O'Reilly, Schenn and Bunting or a Bunting equivalent. Now you might not like Bunting, and we could debate that, but having a 27 year old, 50 point LW guy or an equivalent cap hit player is worth much more then keeping 3 goalies, when Murray isn't good. Moving down 20 spots to keep a 50 point player is worth it.
 
Depends what you mean, i have no problem using it the first to drop down into the high second, especially if it comes with another pick.

My preference is LTIR though
 
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