Nah, I dont think he will make it out of the ttaditional not ready 2-4-2 start like last 2 seasons.
Sheldon Keefe Discussion Thread
- Thread starter The Masters
- Start date
KaN19
Registered User
- Jun 25, 2023
- 199
- 750
Worst case scenario is Shanny replaced one puppet GM with another so he could keep the status-quo in place. There would be no pretext to run it back if Dubas were still here, and listening to his end of season presser, it sounded like he had major changes planned.
Right after Dubas was fired we heard Shanny liked Keefe and told the Core 4 they were all coming back. Did Treliving independently arrive at the same conclusion or did Shanny decide that for him?
Right after Dubas was fired we heard Shanny liked Keefe and told the Core 4 they were all coming back. Did Treliving independently arrive at the same conclusion or did Shanny decide that for him?
Menzinger
Kessel4LadyByng
Though imo the Leafs should have a playoff spot locked up by mid November.
Keefe maybe up one of the longest serving coaches in recent memory for the team
'The sooner, the better': Maple Leafs' Treliving trying to lock up Matthews, Nylander
Sheldon Keefe will be back for a fifth season as Maple Leafs' bench boss; now at the forefront of GM Treliving's new game plan is locking up Auston Matthews and William Nylander.
NASHVILLE — Plan A of the Brad Treliving era is to run it all back. The big pieces anyway.
The new general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs says he’s been “drinking out of a firehose” since he took over from Kyle Dubas four hectic weeks ago.
He has hired Shane Doan and has lost assistant coach Spencer Carbery to the Washington Capitals, but otherwise Treliving hasn’t made any significant changes to core of his adopted group. And if all goes smoothly, he won’t need to.
That means, yes, that head coach Sheldon Keefe will return for a fifth season behind the bench, and that Treliving is grinding away on extensions for stars Auston Matthews and William Nylander, both of whom are eligible to re-sign Saturday.
What Treliving has learned in his time chatting with his players and in his 17 hours’ worth of meetings with Keefe over an intense four- or five-day span is that there is a mutual respect and belief linking Keefe and the core.
Don’t fool yourself into thinking Keefe’s looming extension (“It’s on the to-do list,” Treliving says) and Matthews’ aren’t linked.
“Sheldon’s got a really good relationship with his players. They all think he’s a good coach,” Treliving said Tuesday in a downtown Nashville hotel, where he’s gearing up for the draft.
“He’s open to change,” Treliving added. “He's strong in his beliefs, but he also doesn't think he's got all the answers.”
After digging into hockey philosophy, individual player traits, and D-zone coverage with Keefe, his new boss came away impressed with the coach’s focus and “bright mind.” More pointedly, Treliving trusts that a fresh perspective (i.e., his) can help Keefe become a better coach.
Further, Treliving hinted that some tactical changes will be afoot in Toronto, where the Keefe-Dubas regime long prioritized puck-possession-based hockey.
At the forefront of executing the Leafs’ modified game plan will be Matthews and Nylander, provided Treliving can take care of the paperwork.
BallardEra
Leafs&Caps Since 1982™
MilkofthePoppy
Registered User
- Oct 27, 2022
- 1,123
- 1,949
I am not against it to be honest. I am not in the hysterical 'blow it up' camp either. I remember those barren 2005 - 2013 seasons all too well. I have a feeling Keefe and Treliving share the same philosophies on how to be a competitive team in this league, and that is through structured and disciplined team defense. If we can get the right tools to insulate these guys maybe they can catch lightening in a bottle.
At the end of the day, it is about entertainment value and I personally prefer to see my team consistently make the playoffs rather than be out every year. Each successive playoff appearance is another crack at a run.
I am looking forward to how Treliving makes his mark on this team in the next couple months. I just hope he values our draft capital better than the previous guy did. No more parting gifts.
At the end of the day, it is about entertainment value and I personally prefer to see my team consistently make the playoffs rather than be out every year. Each successive playoff appearance is another crack at a run.
I am looking forward to how Treliving makes his mark on this team in the next couple months. I just hope he values our draft capital better than the previous guy did. No more parting gifts.
saffronleaf
Registered User
shoulda kept dubas and let keefe go but leafs will leafs
Canadian Finn
Oskee Wee Wee
would have guaranteed another "successful" seven years, no doubt.
I guess it depends on what kind of fan you are - and what your expectations are.
I guess it depends on what kind of fan you are - and what your expectations are.
MilkofthePoppy
Registered User
- Oct 27, 2022
- 1,123
- 1,949
The time to make a coaching move was when Cassidy was available. Only other realistic option with pedigree is Quenville, and that will never happen in Toronto. A coaching change right now is not a necessity. This team needs some stability and familiarity going forward otherwise they will be making panic moves and trading out skill for pennies on the dollar. I think it is a good idea to evaluate this team for one more season under a new set of eyes before moving forward.
I like how he mentioned. tactical changes. That's exactly what the Leafs need. Whereas dubis was like, we're just going to play the big 4 as much as possible and try and win. I never got a vibe from Dubus he was knowledgeable on how to play in the nhl or tactics. It always seemed like adding a player here and there was the answer'The sooner, the better': Maple Leafs' Treliving trying to lock up Matthews, Nylander
Sheldon Keefe will be back for a fifth season as Maple Leafs' bench boss; now at the forefront of GM Treliving's new game plan is locking up Auston Matthews and William Nylander.www.sportsnet.ca
NASHVILLE — Plan A of the Brad Treliving era is to run it all back. The big pieces anyway.
The new general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs says he’s been “drinking out of a firehose” since he took over from Kyle Dubas four hectic weeks ago.
He has hired Shane Doan and has lost assistant coach Spencer Carbery to the Washington Capitals, but otherwise Treliving hasn’t made any significant changes to core of his adopted group. And if all goes smoothly, he won’t need to.
That means, yes, that head coach Sheldon Keefe will return for a fifth season behind the bench, and that Treliving is grinding away on extensions for stars Auston Matthews and William Nylander, both of whom are eligible to re-sign Saturday.
What Treliving has learned in his time chatting with his players and in his 17 hours’ worth of meetings with Keefe over an intense four- or five-day span is that there is a mutual respect and belief linking Keefe and the core.
Don’t fool yourself into thinking Keefe’s looming extension (“It’s on the to-do list,” Treliving says) and Matthews’ aren’t linked.
“Sheldon’s got a really good relationship with his players. They all think he’s a good coach,” Treliving said Tuesday in a downtown Nashville hotel, where he’s gearing up for the draft.
“He’s open to change,” Treliving added. “He's strong in his beliefs, but he also doesn't think he's got all the answers.”
After digging into hockey philosophy, individual player traits, and D-zone coverage with Keefe, his new boss came away impressed with the coach’s focus and “bright mind.” More pointedly, Treliving trusts that a fresh perspective (i.e., his) can help Keefe become a better coach.
Further, Treliving hinted that some tactical changes will be afoot in Toronto, where the Keefe-Dubas regime long prioritized puck-possession-based hockey.
At the forefront of executing the Leafs’ modified game plan will be Matthews and Nylander, provided Treliving can take care of the paperwork.
Further, Treliving hinted that some tactical changes will be afoot in Toronto, where the Keefe-Dubas regime long prioritized puck-possession-based hockey.
We could well see a 9/9 lineup this season, with Murray drawing in on LW!
We could well see a 9/9 lineup this season, with Murray drawing in on LW!
This board would have imploded in a couple years if we kept him.
Attachments
Absolutely ruined the off season. There will be no changes other than same bottom 6
No matter who we get or what we do the fact that Keefe is coming back ruins everything
Just same old leafs.
No matter who we get or what we do the fact that Keefe is coming back ruins everything
Just same old leafs.
ACC1224
Super Elite, Passing ALL Tests since 2002
- Aug 19, 2002
- 77,455
- 44,491
PromisedLand
I need more FOOD
hey people how do you make a delicious steak? you get tofu and grill it.
starting to get a bit worried now
Treliving what you doing bro
starting to get a bit worried now
Treliving what you doing bro
I missed 4 games last year due to family outings. I rarely miss games. I promise you I won't be watching more than 40 games.
Only to watch knies
Especially when we aren't getting players with term all we have after the TDL is Lafferty and McCabe.
The positive spin is Treliving is keeping Keefe around till after they sign extension, and will cut him the moment Q is available.
supermann_98
Registered User
His relationship with the players is great according to the players. Translation: other coaches make players accountable for no-shows with bag skates and harsh criticism in the media and Keefe is soft af on the players, even going so far as to publicly take back criticism if the players take offence'The sooner, the better': Maple Leafs' Treliving trying to lock up Matthews, Nylander
Sheldon Keefe will be back for a fifth season as Maple Leafs' bench boss; now at the forefront of GM Treliving's new game plan is locking up Auston Matthews and William Nylander.
NASHVILLE — Plan A of the Brad Treliving era is to run it all back. The big pieces anyway.
The new general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs says he’s been “drinking out of a firehose” since he took over from Kyle Dubas four hectic weeks ago.
He has hired Shane Doan and has lost assistant coach Spencer Carbery to the Washington Capitals, but otherwise Treliving hasn’t made any significant changes to core of his adopted group. And if all goes smoothly, he won’t need to.
That means, yes, that head coach Sheldon Keefe will return for a fifth season behind the bench, and that Treliving is grinding away on extensions for stars Auston Matthews and William Nylander, both of whom are eligible to re-sign Saturday.
What Treliving has learned in his time chatting with his players and in his 17 hours’ worth of meetings with Keefe over an intense four- or five-day span is that there is a mutual respect and belief linking Keefe and the core.
Don’t fool yourself into thinking Keefe’s looming extension (“It’s on the to-do list,” Treliving says) and Matthews’ aren’t linked.
“Sheldon’s got a really good relationship with his players. They all think he’s a good coach,” Treliving said Tuesday in a downtown Nashville hotel, where he’s gearing up for the draft.
“He’s open to change,” Treliving added. “He's strong in his beliefs, but he also doesn't think he's got all the answers.”
After digging into hockey philosophy, individual player traits, and D-zone coverage with Keefe, his new boss came away impressed with the coach’s focus and “bright mind.” More pointedly, Treliving trusts that a fresh perspective (i.e., his) can help Keefe become a better coach.
Further, Treliving hinted that some tactical changes will be afoot in Toronto, where the Keefe-Dubas regime long prioritized puck-possession-based hockey.
At the forefront of executing the Leafs’ modified game plan will be Matthews and Nylander, provided Treliving can take care of the paperwork.
Treliving either has no balls or Shanahan is telling him what to do.
No other pro sports org out there would have this guy behind the bench still. I mean you gotta be f***ing kidding me
No other pro sports org out there would have this guy behind the bench still. I mean you gotta be f***ing kidding me
Racer88
Registered User
- Sep 29, 2020
- 12,563
- 12,560
Sheldon Keefe is coming back but the Maple Leafs have a lot more to do this summer
Brad Treliving has been busy. Updates on Sheldon Keefe, the core four, the goalies and more.
theathletic.com
NASHVILLE – Sheldon Keefe knew then-Maple Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas very well when he was hired as Leafs coach following a long history together in Sault Ste. Marie and with the Toronto Marlies.
Brad Treliving? Not so much.
This explains why Treliving felt it was imperative that he spend time – a lot of time – getting to know Keefe before determining that Keefe, as long suspected, will return as the Leafs coach next season. Treliving said he met with Keefe for approximately 17 hours over a period of four to five days this month. They got to know one another, discussed strategy, pored over video, and talked about the team and the players on it – the good and the bad presumably.
“It was difficult and probably uncomfortable at times,” Treliving said Tuesday. “I think he’s got a bright mind. He’s open to change. He’s strong in his beliefs, but he also doesn’t think he’s got all the answers.”
This tracks with Keefe’s four seasons in the job where maybe his two biggest strengths were creativity and flexibility, an openness to anything and everything. That led to all kinds of regular season success for the Leafs, but only a single round won in four playoffs.
Sometimes that penchant for activity, over-activity even, hurt the Leafs in the postseason as did, more surprisingly given the talent and regular season success, the team’s offensive play.
And interestingly enough, Treliving said, “There might be a little change in how we play.”
In bringing Keefe back for a fifth season, Treliving is betting that Keefe can continue to grow and adapt in the postseason above all and pull even more, much more, out of his top players when it really matters. Keefe has already shown his teams can slay in the regular season. It’s the playoffs where again and again his teams have fallen short.
Treliving mentioned what you might call his second job theory in relation to Keefe – that a person might find more success in their job the second time around. A benefit of experience. Yes, this is still Keefe’s first NHL head coaching job. But Treliving will become his second GM, which means a different voice and perspective from up top.
“Sometimes a little bit of new, a little bit of fresh can help,” Treliving said. “A little bit of change.”
One consideration that Treliving had to have had in determining Keefe’s future is to figure out who exactly the Leafs would have gotten to replace him. In short, who was out there that could do a better job than Keefe, who’s won over 60 percent of his regular-season games behind the Leafs bench and did guide them to the second round for the first time since 2004. (Not much progress obviously, but some.) The Leafs would need to have come up with a ready-made upgrade.
The most obvious candidate would have been Joel Quenneville, a three-time Stanley Cup winner in Chicago who also has all kinds of baggage at the moment and an uncertain path back to the NHL.
Treliving said the Leafs would figure out an extension for Keefe (or not?) at a later date. Will an extension do anything to bolster Keefe’s job security? Hard to see how. If the Leafs, say, failed to go beyond the second round yet again next spring, Keefe probably isn’t sticking around – extension or not.
supermann_98
Registered User
We can hope we can hope, although this is a year where I could see, for once, our players starting the year on fire with something to prove so we‘ll have to give it a couple 6-0 no-shows against Chicago and the scheduled loss in Arizona to put out the Keefe-clock.
I‘m legit curious because usually the media is Keefe friendly but some guys like Mike Johnson you can see it in his face how frustrated he is talking about the Leafs and the topic of Treliving keeping Keefe around. Some media guys I heard in the afternoon show going so far as to suggest Treliving is a happy, new hire puppet for Shanny with this Keefe decision being an example and the core 4 decision also being Shanty’s decision to run it back.
Ad
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
Speculation: Jeff Skinner has no plans to leave the Oilers- Latest: ChaoticOrange
