Sheldon Keefe Discussion Thread

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9 is the most powerful natural number.

the power manifested itself in the score tonight too ;)

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Keefe definitely does some things I wouldn’t for sure. I did see a stat yesterday that will make some go bonkers : apparently he is #1 in league history for points percentage, minimum 250 games.
 
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Is it Keefe or is it the GM who defaulted to trading 1st rounders to desperately fix the soft team he built?

If we built on the identify we had going in 2016 of speed and skill with fast forwards who give you no time and space to think or do anything we'd probably be going for cup number 3 right now.

Instead every year we degrade speed and skill, the only identity we had, while throwing darts at grit options (in failure). Rinse and repeat.

After seeing this trend I've lightened up on Keefe. Just needs to relax messing up Liljegren.
 
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Is it Keefe or is it the GM who defaulted to trading 1st rounders to desperately fix the soft team he built?

If we built on the identify we had going in 2016 of speed and skill with fast forwards who give you no time and space to think or do anything we'd probably be going for cup number 3 right now.

Instead every year we degrade speed and skill, the only identity we had, while throwing darts at grit options (in failure). Rinse and repeat.

After seeing this trend I've lightened up on Keefe. Just needs to relax messing up Liljegren.

Huh? The Leafs' identity is they have quality two way players throughout their lineup. That team that was fast and skilled couldn't play defence.
 
Is it Keefe or is it the GM who defaulted to trading 1st rounders to desperately fix the soft team he built?

If we built on the identify we had going in 2016 of speed and skill with fast forwards who give you no time and space to think or do anything we'd probably be going for cup number 3 right now.

Instead every year we degrade speed and skill, the only identity we had, while throwing darts at grit options (in failure). Rinse and repeat.

After seeing this trend I've lightened up on Keefe. Just needs to relax messing up Liljegren.
Keefe insists on continually playing the Black Holl. GM isn’t responsible for that.
 
Keefe definitely does some things I wouldn’t for sure. I did see a stat yesterday that will make some go bonkers : apparently he is #1 in league history for points percentage, minimum 250 games.
There is a pretty small number of rookie coaches that inherited a club with back to back 100pt seasons and their best players just hitting their peak years. Maybe Todd McClellan was close but his group was older and look where his pts pct is at today. Not a dis on Keefe but not an actual measure of his capability either, just a snapshot in time.
 
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Keefe definitely does some things I wouldn’t for sure. I did see a stat yesterday that will make some go bonkers : apparently he is #1 in league history for points percentage, minimum 250 games.
That stat seriously lacks context. What's supposed to make me go bonkers about it?
 
That stat seriously lacks context. What's supposed to make me go bonkers about it?

The stat should stand on its own merits no?

I mean, we could add he's also had more injuries to deal with and worse goaltending than most of the others coaches at the top of the list all while dealing with not just a cap system but a system in which covid screwed a the cap teams hard certainly making his life harder but why pump him up even more eh?

He's obviously a really good coach.
 
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Shootouts meaningless buddy, these are your own words.
Shootout outcomes are pretty meaningless, but we still won, so it would still be a weird time to try and argue that the coach wasn't trying to win...
Especially when attempting to make that point based on them doing two pretty normal things that any coach would do pretty regularly.
And especially considering we got great chemistry from Matthews-Jarnkrok, a successful coach's challenge, a shootout winner from somebody that nobody here would have picked, etc.
 
That stat seriously lacks context. What's supposed to make me go bonkers about it?

What's the context? He took a team that was outside of a playoff spot in year 1 and made them a playoff team and then continued his trend of being near the top of the league each year.

Not to mention he was crippled by the incompetent Dubas (seems like a lot of people think Dubas sucks), and he still put together a winning team... Should win coach of the year every year.
 
What's the context? He took a team that was outside of a playoff spot in year 1 and made them a playoff team and then continued his trend of being near the top of the league each year.
Not to mention he was crippled by the incompetent Dubas (seems like a lot of people think Dubas sucks), and he still put together a winning team... Should win coach of the year every year.
It's certainly interesting how much the team fluctuates between horribly built, soft piece of garbage that our idiot, rookie GM destroyed and all-time dominant superteam that our trash coach drags down to just consistent, top of the league, franchise-record setting levels, depending on the part of the team that's trying to be dumped on at the moment.
 
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Shootout outcomes are pretty meaningless, but we still won, so it would still be a weird time to try and argue that the coach wasn't trying to win...
Especially when attempting to make that point based on them doing two pretty normal things that any coach would do pretty regularly.
And especially considering we got great chemistry from Matthews-Jarnkrok, a successful coach's challenge, a shootout winner from somebody that nobody here would have picked, etc.
Meaningless…..tell that to the Leaf players that celebrated like it was 1999
 
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Is it Keefe or is it the GM who defaulted to trading 1st rounders to desperately fix the soft team he built?

If we built on the identify we had going in 2016 of speed and skill with fast forwards who give you no time and space to think or do anything we'd probably be going for cup number 3 right now.

Instead every year we degrade speed and skill, the only identity we had, while throwing darts at grit options (in failure). Rinse and repeat.

After seeing this trend I've lightened up on Keefe. Just needs to relax messing up Liljegren.
Imma invite you to look at that roster and give that some thought.
 

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