Proposal: Sharks selloff
- Thread starter Kcoyote3
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Noone wants kane. Let him play in Ahl til contract is Done. Mistake trading for him why trade for someone that havent been good in any team and acted like a fool. He is not a Leader. No team like that behaviour. Sorry sharks he is in Ahl rest of his NHL life. Had enough chanses now he needs to become a better human after his NHL Career
Hall was very much a part of the problem in Buffalo. They expected effort and didn't get it. Hertl doesn't have that baggage and will deliver more if he's traded.
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
Hertl is also a center, and even on this bad sharks team is pacing for 40 goals right now with Barabanov and Balcers as his linemates.
Avs have a good goalie. They have two actually. But Bonino for a 6th? Sign me up.
Weltschmerz
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He also had a no trade clause and only wanted to go to Boston.
seroes
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The only reason Hall went for so little is because he would only ok a trade to Boston. Boston had Buffalo over a barrel and they knew it. Unless Hertl is intent on going to only 1 team, he will get a 1st +. Everything else, Hall poor season, position, and perceived lack of effort doesn't matter.
Are the Sharks buying out Kane and Vlasic in the offseason? Seems like at least one will need to be bought out.
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
Probably Kane. Vlasic sucks but if we're gonna rebuild may as well keep playing him. Buy him out in a couple years or he'll retire into LTIR at some point maybe.
seroes
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Kane: Most likely. The Sharks don't want him polluting the younger players.
Vlassic: This is a tough one. It's possible but I suspect the Sharks will wait at least 1 more offseason before doing so. If they do at all. He isn't a bad influence, he is just being pushed out of the lineup with a couple more defencemen on the way. If Hertl is traded we don't need the cap space immediately and would likely wait until we do. No need to prolong the cap issues.
OK bud. 30 games devalued him to a 2nd.
What devalued his trade value was Hall blocking any trade but Boston - both Buffalo's GM and Hall admitted to this.
If Hertl wants to to block every team from trading to him and force his way to Detroit (lul) than sure, he can be had for a 2nd + B prospect.
Possibly but Kane is more likely than Vlasic. Kane should continue to be buried until there's a trade to be made or until it expires. They just don't need the extra 2.2 mil they'd get buying Kane out when most indicators point to them losing Hertl, having no replacement available, and getting much worse as a result. Same with Vlasic but they'd save 3.5 mil buying him out in the offseason. Even with both bought out saving 5.7 mil, what is out there to replace Hertl down the middle if he walks? Just doesn't make sense to try and save cap space for a lost season upcoming.
I would bet that Kane gets bought out anyway just to be rid of the issue but Vlasic will probably stick around at least another season because they could probably move Simek to make room for Merkley and he can play with Vlasic until a prospect is ready to make their case for a spot.
your price on Hertl is reasonable but sadly, NY has zero cap next yr, so it would have to be rental only. [We are gonna need Strome + Geo + Nemeth gone to cover Fox + Zib new deals $$$$$$$. Have no one else available to move who we can move w/o permission besides Lindgren and that is only 3m per which is needed for short LaF-Kakko bridge while we see if we can Trouba to go 1 yr early.]
we don't match up in currency vs other projected offers
closest I can do is
Strome + Geo + Jones [redundant due to Fox but can't afford to give away] +
NYR 2022 4th + 2023 3rd
for
Hertl + SJ 2022 3rd + 2023 2nd
something like that
and again,
both you prob get more
and
NY should not make moves that bleed assets esp while cap is tight
Gecklund
Registered User
I said you'll get better offers and sadly, that is extent of what currency NYR can make available.
We are not gonna move futures to add vets esp ones we can't afford to sign
Also howev
Strome worth late 1st and Jones IS a good prospect, so not as shitty as you wish to paint it
pld459666
Registered User
Hertl on the Rangers with the way Strome and Panarin work together would give the Rangers impressive center depth with Mika-Strome-Hertl
I'm not moving Otthmann for a rental as that is what Hertl would be.
If Chytil and the 2022 1st can't get it done, and I understand if he doesn't, then I look elsewhere.
I'm not moving Otthmann for a rental as that is what Hertl would be.
If Chytil and the 2022 1st can't get it done, and I understand if he doesn't, then I look elsewhere.
pld459666
Registered User
I think you are going to be disappointed, especially if the team keeps winning.
the Rangers WILL look to add at the deadline this year.
I appreciate where you are trying to go w. this, but Chytil can not be moved
Strome has to go
sjsharks92
Shark Tank Commander
The bottom line is the original offer you made is garbage and would not net Tomas Hertl.
you may be right but if they do that and come up short, I will again crow about how I made a better case than conventional wisdom, which was proven wrong
I'm glad we won the cup in 94 but not sure trading away ALL the top talent for role guys was worth it.
We got 1 cup out of it
would we have been better off with just 1 such deal?
mark my words
there is no work around to the cap
do it my way or there will be consequences
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