Proposal: Sharks selloff

[Pinkfloyd]

Literally that entire team was trash and it was largely because Eichel and Ullmark were both injured, their coaching sucked, and the team quit.

Pretending that anybody devalued a recent Hart winner because of a bad half season with a dogshit team is hilarious.

The entire team quitting included Hall who has a reputation of that and hence his value reflected that. He was not a better player by any means than Hertl now in a less valuable position. Just stop embarrassing yourself and quit while you're only this far behind.

Hall was in his second consecutive disappointing season where his issues followed him around to three more teams.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Hertl for DET's 2nd + Eemil Viro/Albert Johansson?

Prospects probably aren't as surefire as you'd like, but DET's 2nd should be high and Hertl's pending UFA. For obvious reasons, Detroit's 1st isn't on the table.

Lmao, easily gets beaten.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

As an Avs fan I'd give up a 2023 1st + Justin Barron for Hertl.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The entire team quitting included Hall who has a reputation of that and hence his value reflected that. He was not a better player by any means than Hertl now in a less valuable position. Just stop embarrassing yourself and quit while you're only this far behind.

Hall was in his second consecutive disappointing season where his issues followed him around to three more teams.

That moment when you get a new argument dangled out in front of you and abandon ship on the old one because it wasn't working.

Lmao, easily gets beaten.

You'd think a 3rd round pick for Ned gets beaten too, and yet Yzerman seems to have a knack for fleecing GMs.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Lol trade you Karlsson for Dahlen (jk)

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That moment when you get a new argument dangled out in front of you and abandon ship on the old one because it wasn't working.

Uh what? It's the same argument, genius.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That moment when you get a new argument dangled out in front of you and abandon ship on the old one because it wasn't working.



You'd think a 3rd round pick for Ned gets beaten too, and yet Yzerman seems to have a knack for fleecing GMs.

That's your argument?


Carry on in your delusion I guess

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Uh what? It's the same argument, genius.

Flipped from, "He sucked", to, "He quit on the team". Pick one and stick with it. The entire team sucked. The entire team quit. Nobody was selling a Hart winner short because of 30 games. Try again.

That's your argument?


Carry on in your delusion I guess

You can call it delusional all you want but the fact is Yzerman has done it multiple times soooo...

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Flipped from, "He sucked", to, "He quit on the team". Pick one and stick with it. The entire team sucked. The entire team quit. Nobody was selling a Hart winner short because of 30 games. Try again.

It's not one or the other when both apply. He sucked and then he quit like he's quit on teams before.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

It's not one or the other when both apply. He sucked and then he quit like he's quit on teams before.

OK bud. 30 games devalued him to a 2nd.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

OK bud. 30 games devalued him to a 2nd.

Are you incapable of actually absorbing a point? Him quitting on his team isn't some 30 game revelation. It's followed him around.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Hertl is very very likely to get at least a first. Nick f***ing Foligno got a first last deadline

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Are you incapable of actually absorbing a point? Him quitting on his team isn't some 30 game revelation. It's followed him around.

Nah, I'm just done going in circles with you over this shit.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Nah, I'm just done going in circles with you over this shit.

These aren't circles. These are direct points that you're choosing to ignore because you won't own a dumb take you made.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

These aren't circles. These are direct points that you're choosing to ignore because you won't own a dumb take you made.

The point has been addressed directly. Nobody's devaluing a Hart winner over a 30 game stint with an awful team. You continuing to beat that dead horse is the circle we keep going through.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The point has been addressed directly. Nobody's devaluing a Hart winner over a 30 game stint with an awful team. You continuing to beat that dead horse is the circle we keep going through.

And you're choosing to ignore that his issues weren't isolated to 30 games. I don't even understand why you chose that number as if it was one stretch of games on one team. It happened repeatedly and on multiple teams.

 

[OrrNumber4]

I suspect that Barabanov and Remier might go for a first-rounder. Barabanov is the ideal piece for a contending team, and with so many teams needing good goaltending...well, they might get blinded by his numbers.
I can't see any true contender wanting Kane, and everybody else will probably just wait until he is bought out.
Bonino could be a pretty valuable piece next season. With that expiring contract, I bet he could get a 2nd next year for a team looking for some forward depth.
Labanc is likely to go in a "change of scenery" trade. Maybe the Rangers give up on Chytil?
Burns is likely to go for a similar player; a good player who isn't delivering on his contract and probably also needs a fresh start. Something like a trade for Seguin/Johansen (maybe Tavares?).

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Burns is likely to go for a similar player; a good player who isn't delivering on his contract and probably also needs a fresh start. Something like a trade for Seguin/Johansen (maybe Tavares?).

Pretty unlikely anybody's trading a 30/31 year old for a 37 year old who's signed until he's 40.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Pretty unlikely anybody's trading a 30/31 year old for a 37 year old who's signed until he's 40.

Granted that Burns is older, but the other players have worse contracts and are arguably even worse value. Sure, Seguin is 30 but he has a 10 million cap hit for five more years and has been quite unproductive.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Granted that Burns is older, but the other players have worse contracts and are arguably even worse value. Sure, Seguin is 30 but he has a 10 million cap hit for five more years and has been quite unproductive.

Pretty good chance that Burns from 37-40 isn't all that great either.

Nashville and Dallas don't really make sense anyways. Both have good D groups and lack offense.

Toronto actually makes the most sense out of any of them as they have a need at defense, but they're likely not retaining $3M on Tavares, and SJS certainly can't afford to add $3M in cap.

 

[Calad]

A 1st and Kravstov for Hertl seems fair?

 

[OrrNumber4]

Pretty good chance that Burns from 37-40 isn't all that great either.

Nashville and Dallas don't really make sense anyways. Both have good D groups and lack offense.

Toronto actually makes the most sense out of any of them as they have a need at defense, but they're likely not retaining $3M on Tavares, and SJS certainly can't afford to add $3M in cap.

With the cap going up and the Sharks jettisoning Hertl/Reimer/Bonino and perhaps buying out Kane, they'll have the space.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

With the cap going up and the Sharks jettisoning Hertl/Reimer/Bonino and perhaps buying out Kane, they'll have the space.

It's going up $1M...

Spending $30M on Tavares/Karlsson/Vlasic is a nightmare.

 

[Groo]

A 1st and Kravstov for Hertl seems fair?

Seems a bit light

 

[themelkman]

A 1st and Kravstov for Hertl seems fair?

Krav isnt worth much to me. Chytil is the ask.