Nothing. Staying another year is more about the college experience than it is about working on his craft. It's a justifiable reason to stay from my perspective but I think he's learned as much as he can playing college hockey.
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Nothing. Staying another year is more about the college experience than it is about working on his craft. It's a justifiable reason to stay from my perspective but I think he's learned as much as he can playing college hockey.
Sharks have a serious lack of center depth at both the NHL and AHL level, that will get worse when we lose Hertl. would rather have Bordeleau here to learn at the AHL level
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Since practically inception, the Sharks have been strong down the middle. I wonder how many of the current problems are based off of a failure to build the team around the defense...
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Hard to build a team around the defense when the best player is injured for half the year and the other top guy is falling off a cliff harder than Thelma and Louise
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You mean the Sharks future vs the Sharks future
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I think their point was that, organizationally, the Sharks have not done a good job of building a pipeline of difference making defensemen. The case in point is that both of the players you reference were developed and acquired from outside of the orgs pipeline, and irreplaceable with any of the prospects from within the pipeline (Merkley being the closest, yet still far from equal, candidate).
When was the last time the Sharks d-corps was lead by a homegrown talent?
Edit: in retrospect that was NOT what Orr#4 was saying, but I think the point is valid enough to leave up.
Bedard is just really good. It's upsetting, because he's instant offense when he's on the ice. It's upsetting because I really want him to be a Shark.
Anyways, Robins played #1C, played on the first PK and PP, he was either lined up on the wing on the PP or on the left point, which I didn't really think he excelled there in the limited time I saw.
He had a good first period. He has great acceleration, and he's unapologetic in his drive to a position to set up a scoring opportunity. He's going, and you better try to cover him is the sense I get from him. He's not a home run threat technically, but I think he could get behind defenders with his acceleration, and puck protect the rest of the way. Haven't seen him shoot on net yet. He has great puckhandling ability, and he made a couple pretty looking dekes. He has a smart stick and smart positioning both defensively and offensively. He swatted down two passes in the D zone that were pretty slick looking. I don't think he sees the game particularly well in terms of playmaking, he had two missed passes that were just meh, and a few times he tried to get the puck out of the zone and it just wasn't very smart. Still just one period of observation. He kind of reminds me of Couture if I had to pick a Shark comparable, but I will see how well the comparison plays out in the last two periods.
Anyways, Robins played #1C, played on the first PK and PP, he was either lined up on the wing on the PP or on the left point, which I didn't really think he excelled there in the limited time I saw.
He had a good first period. He has great acceleration, and he's unapologetic in his drive to a position to set up a scoring opportunity. He's going, and you better try to cover him is the sense I get from him. He's not a home run threat technically, but I think he could get behind defenders with his acceleration, and puck protect the rest of the way. Haven't seen him shoot on net yet. He has great puckhandling ability, and he made a couple pretty looking dekes. He has a smart stick and smart positioning both defensively and offensively. He swatted down two passes in the D zone that were pretty slick looking. I don't think he sees the game particularly well in terms of playmaking, he had two missed passes that were just meh, and a few times he tried to get the puck out of the zone and it just wasn't very smart. Still just one period of observation. He kind of reminds me of Couture if I had to pick a Shark comparable, but I will see how well the comparison plays out in the last two periods.
Smart stick #3 from Robins, batted the puck out of the air in the offensive zone off a pass. Seems to have great hand eye.
also poor zone exit #3 and #4 for him. Simple play would have done it but he didn’t opt for it. Also his passing just really bugs me. He floats passes when it should be direct and his direct passing seems off. Need more examples to see. All in all a worse period than the first but flashes of stickhandling and speed saved it.
also poor zone exit #3 and #4 for him. Simple play would have done it but he didn’t opt for it. Also his passing just really bugs me. He floats passes when it should be direct and his direct passing seems off. Need more examples to see. All in all a worse period than the first but flashes of stickhandling and speed saved it.
Better period from Robins. Drew a penalty using his acceleration and got hooked from behind. Then picked up a secondary assist on the ensuing PP. Did take a penalty with a minute left trying to defend the lead though.
Pros:
-Stickhandling
-Hand-eye
-Shot
-Acceleration
-Willingness to grind along the boards, play in all three zones
Cons:
-Decision making in both zones, reluctance to make the simple play
-Passing skill and passing decisions are not great, tendency to hope pass
-Over stickhandling when he can't find the right play, puck gets taken away from him too easily in these cases when he's trying to read the ice
If I was tasked with turning him into an NHLer, I'd get him on the right wing and in front of the net on the powerplay. I'd try to model his game after Pavelski, and get him used to tipping shots and shooting in small spaces. I think he could really succeed at that. Or maybe keep him at center and try to mold a stronger defensive game out of him, like a third line scoring center, Bonino-esque. Currently he looks like an 0ff-brand Couture but the bad parts of Couture's game are a little more glaring with Robins.
Usual disclaimers of: one game, small sample, my opinion, and I'm not a scout but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Pros:
-Stickhandling
-Hand-eye
-Shot
-Acceleration
-Willingness to grind along the boards, play in all three zones
Cons:
-Decision making in both zones, reluctance to make the simple play
-Passing skill and passing decisions are not great, tendency to hope pass
-Over stickhandling when he can't find the right play, puck gets taken away from him too easily in these cases when he's trying to read the ice
If I was tasked with turning him into an NHLer, I'd get him on the right wing and in front of the net on the powerplay. I'd try to model his game after Pavelski, and get him used to tipping shots and shooting in small spaces. I think he could really succeed at that. Or maybe keep him at center and try to mold a stronger defensive game out of him, like a third line scoring center, Bonino-esque. Currently he looks like an 0ff-brand Couture but the bad parts of Couture's game are a little more glaring with Robins.
Usual disclaimers of: one game, small sample, my opinion, and I'm not a scout but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
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@Kcoyote3 Thanks for all the recent scouting reports, much appreciated!!
No worries! I like doing it, and if people like it I'll keep posting them when I watch people.
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I will echo what @NiWa said. Totally appreciate your coverage, insights and reports. Makes the season go by much more meaningfully. Thank you!
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And Jonathan Dahlen is on a 22 goal pace halfway through his rookie season. I think most would take that over what Karlsson is doing this season, but I suppose that all depends on the point one is trying to prove, over and over, to infinity and beyond.
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It's been a pretty good rookie season for him. Good metrics, mildly sheltered zone starts, good individual generation. Can't really complain.
Maybe, but when Dahlen was 21 he scored 77 points in 51 games in the Allsvenskan, vs. Karlsson at 21 scored 51 points in 52 games. Also one has proven so far he can stick in the best league in the world, and one has not.
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Yeah. I mean, look, Karlsson could end up better. The point is, to put down what Dahlen has done feels short-sighted at best. He hit a wall post-Covid, but the fact that he's bouncing back now in some tough games gives me hope that this level is pretty sustainable. That feels like what we should be focusing on with him.
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> Our rookies are doing well in lower leagues but that means nothing in terms of what they'll do in the NHL
> A guy who's PPG in a lower league will be better than a guy that's currently double digits in goals in the NHL
Pick one
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