Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info & Discussion Megathread XXI: "New, improved, and wayyyy too much info" Edition

[Jargon]

Svoboda means freedom in Russian, so he is obviously the one that will free us from not having a cup.

 

[LadyStanley]

Paywall

 

[Juxtaposer]

No points for Chernyshov tonight, but he was fabulous anyway. Could have had a few, but the opposing goalie was really really sharp and Windsor is really good.

He's really good at creating turnovers off the forecheck, and using his body to protect the puck so he can make a play under pressure. He's not perfect defensively, but he really tries and has a lot of good habits. He makes the extra effort to defend in front of the net and be the first guy back even though he's the winger. Really a joy to watch right now, alongside Misa and Parekh especially.

Saginaw plays Sudbury tomorrow, which I'll of course try to catch.

 

[The Nemesis]

Battle of the WHL prospect d-men tonight and tomorrow as Victoria (Misskey) and Vancouver (Roberts) play a home-and-home set starting in a few minutes.

Roberts has looked pretty solid over the last few games. The absence of Ryan Lin from the Giants blueline has forced him to step into a slightly larger role. I haven't seen Misskey since the last time these teams faced off.

EDIT: and as I say Roberts has done well with increased responsibility I find out that Lin is back in the Giants' lineup. So back down the ladder Roberts probably goes.

 

[Cas]

What's interesting about these types of guys is that their peaks are very short. Like, I'm talking about three, four years of actually valuable play. So the timing--meaning Svoboda hitting his 3-4 year peak from ages 23-26--might well be right smack in the middle of our contending window. That's my hope, anyway.

Guys like Goodrow and Svoboda have a very short window where their skills and experience develop to NHL-quality before their bodies erode away the narrow level of physical ability they have keeping them afloat, so it makes sense.

 

[The Nemesis]

Assist for Misskey already as his point shot is tipped in to give Victoria a 1-0 lead.

 

[Star Platinum]

I agree. I was figured that Goodrow hasn’t been discussed in a few days so it was a great reminder that he did have value as a 4th liner on a cup team recently.

Is almost four years recent? I mean, from what I've learned on this forum recently, Celebrini will be past his peak in four years time...

 

[Star Platinum]

 

[Star Platinum]

London Knights highlights:

Dickinson apple: (his second assist of the night was a secondary assist off-screen)


Halttunen apple:

 

[OrrNumber4]

Is almost four years recent? I mean, from what I've learned on this forum recently, Celebrini will be past his peak in four years time...

Maybe at the tail end of it...but when do you think his peak will be?

 

[The Nemesis]

Misskey with 2 assists (both on shots that were deflected/put home on the rebound) through 2 periods with Victoria up 3-1. He's +2 while Roberts is at -1 with no points.

Maybe at the tail end of it...but when do you think his peak will be?

Next thursday afternoon through 3 weeks from Sunday. After that it's all downhill

 

[Star Platinum]

Maybe at the tail end of it...but when do you think his peak will be?

I suppose it depends on how many serious injuries he has in his career, but to throw out a name for comparison's sake, McDavid's best scoring year came at age 26.

 

[hockeyball]

No points for Chernyshov tonight, but he was fabulous anyway. Could have had a few, but the opposing goalie was really really sharp and Windsor is really good.

He's really good at creating turnovers off the forecheck, and using his body to protect the puck so he can make a play under pressure. He's not perfect defensively, but he really tries and has a lot of good habits. He makes the extra effort to defend in front of the net and be the first guy back even though he's the winger. Really a joy to watch right now, alongside Misa and Parekh especially.

Saginaw plays Sudbury tomorrow, which I'll of course try to catch.

So wait, shouldn't expect a point per period in the NHL now? I had my hopes up

 

[Emperor Joe Thornton]

So wait, shouldn't expect a point per period in the NHL now? I had my hopes up

Chernyshoddy

 

[Star Platinum]

So wait, shouldn't expect a point per period in the NHL now? I had my hopes up

Chernyfraud

 

[OrrNumber4]

I suppose it depends on how many serious injuries he has in his career, but to throw out a name for comparison's sake, McDavid's best scoring year came at age 26.

1) McDavid's best scoring season was in 2021, when he was 23-24.
2) Celebrini is a different type of player. He's incredibly mature and well-balanced, so we'll see an earlier peak.

 

[Star Platinum]

1) McDavid's best scoring season was in 2021, when he was 23-24.
2) Celebrini is a different type of player. He's incredibly mature and well-balanced, so we'll see an earlier peak.

1) I am officially embarrassed for you for being that pedantic.
2) You have zero factual basis for asserting that

 

[OrrNumber4]

1) I am officially embarrassed for you for being that pedantic accurate.

Fixed that

2) You have zero factual basis for asserting that

The implied "I think"...don't you think Celebrini is different from your typical high-talent young forward?

I also don't think that McDavid is the best example in the sense that Edmonton really wasted many years with him.

 

[StanleyCup2035]

No points for Chernyshov tonight, but he was fabulous anyway. Could have had a few, but the opposing goalie was really really sharp and Windsor is really good.

He's really good at creating turnovers off the forecheck, and using his body to protect the puck so he can make a play under pressure. He's not perfect defensively, but he really tries and has a lot of good habits. He makes the extra effort to defend in front of the net and be the first guy back even though he's the winger. Really a joy to watch right now, alongside Misa and Parekh especially.

Saginaw plays Sudbury tomorrow, which I'll of course try to catch.

On behalf of all of us, I want to express our heartfelt gratitude to @Juxtaposer for her dedication in watching countless prospect games and providing us with invaluable post-game summaries. Your insights are truly appreciated—thank you!

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Fixed that

The implied "I think"...don't you think Celebrini is different from your typical high-talent young forward?

I also don't think that McDavid is the best example in the sense that Edmonton really wasted many years with him.

153 >105

 

[Hodge]

Whether you want to say McDavid peaked at 24 or 26 years old the point is he already peaked and the Oilers didn't get a single Cup out of it.

Unless they win this year, which they won't, the Oilers have also pissed away the enormous advantage of Draisaitl getting paid half his true value.

Let's not be the Oilers.

 

[Star Platinum]

Whether you want to say McDavid peaked at 24 or 26 years old the point is he already peaked and the Oilers didn't get a single Cup out of it.

Unless they win this year, which they won't, the Oilers have also pissed away the enormous advantage of Draisaitl getting paid half his true value.

Let's not be the Oilers.

Who would you say is currently the best player in the NHL?

 

[Hodge]

Who would you say is currently the best player in the NHL?

It's still McDavid but the gap between him and #2 is smaller than it was a few years ago and will only continue getting smaller. When you combine that with the Oilers being forced to pay him $20M/yr on his next contract their Cup window is about to close. They blew it.

 

[Star Platinum]

It's still McDavid but the gap between him and #2 is smaller than it was a few years ago and will only continue getting smaller. When you combine that with the Oilers being forced to pay him $20M/yr on his next contract their Cup window is about to close. They blew it.

I'd say any team with the best player in the league hasn't blown it yet. Especially when they were one game away from winning last year.

 

[Barrie22]

Fixed that

The implied "I think"...don't you think Celebrini is different from your typical high-talent young forward?

I also don't think that McDavid is the best example in the sense that Edmonton really wasted many years with him.

Except its not accurate. You said his best year was 21, but no matter if you use 2020-21 or 2021-22. 153 points beats 105 and 123 no matter how you slice it. And also 64 beats 44 and 33 goals.