Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info & Discussion Megathread XXI: "New, improved, and wayyyy too much info" Edition

[Lebanezer]

Becher does no due diligence when he tweets. Those are Dickinson’s numbers BEFORE the game he quoted where Sam had 5 points. it’s not that hard man.

 

[matt trick]

Seems even above expectation. I mean leading the entire chl in D scoring by a mile? Hell, I think he’d be like 5th in overall chl scoring… not just OHL, all three!

And with his size too. It’s hard to say that he’s not exceeding expectations.

Hopefully, he is working on his deficiencies defensively and in decision making. I haven’t followed him closely, but it was in those areas that he was far below nhl standard this training camp.

If he has to be an nhler next year, I would sure like to see his defensive game be at least close to nhl level.

Does anyone follow his defensive details closely? Like not the points, but the defensive body positioning, stick use, decision making, outlet passes, etc. I wonder how he’s doing in those areas?

Jux posted a scouching video that covers a lot of his details. It was positive, but not glowing. Specifically felt he could use his reach, speed to close gaps more. He's so damn big and fast he's unlikely to get burned- though I will say his D reminds me of Burns at points.

In addition to, 2G/3A is ridiculous, he also was a +4 on a 5-3 even strength game, on for all 5 non-PP/PS goals, and only one of the 67s. The -1 he earned was on a London forward turning over the puck in the neutral zone, resulting on a 2-2, where London's goalie was beat clean. It was his D partner's man who scored.

Here's all 13 goals: Ontario Hockey League

The things I'd like to see Dickinson get better at are the areas Vlasic used to be truly exceptional. Never got the sense he was much of a mentor, but if he were going to teach BDE how to handle gap control, that'll be worth the $7M eventually.

 

[Jargon]

Jux posted a scouching video that covers a lot of his details. It was positive, but not glowing. Specifically felt he could use his reach, speed to close gaps more. He's so damn big and fast he's unlikely to get burned- though I will say his D reminds me of Burns at points.

In addition to, 2G/3A is ridiculous, he also was a +4 on a 5-3 even strength game, on for all 5 non-PP/PS goals, and only one of the 67s. The -1 he earned was on a London forward turning over the puck in the neutral zone, resulting on a 2-2, where London's goalie was beat clean. It was his D partner's man who scored.

Here's all 13 goals: Ontario Hockey League

The things I'd like to see Dickinson get better at are the areas Vlasic used to be truly exceptional. Never got the sense he was much of a mentor, but if he were going to teach BDE how to handle gap control, that'll be worth the $7M eventually.

Has Vlasic ever worn a letter? I feel like he’s become an ever more fermented pickle as he gets older.

 

[Cas]

Has Vlasic ever worn a letter? I feel like he’s become an ever more fermented pickle as he gets older.

He did around 14-15, but I think (and have said before) that it's indicative that the longest-tenured Shark, a former alternate captain, and 1000+ game NHL veteran doesn't wear one now.

 

[Jargon]

He did around 14-15, but I think (and have said before) that it's indicative that the longest-tenured Shark, a former alternate captain, and 1000+ game NHL veteran doesn't wear one now.

Yeah, Granlund’s been here for two years and seems to be more a mentor than Vlasic has ever been.

Maybe if Celebrini and Smith were two adorable Dobermans…

 

[Juxtaposer]

Dickinson makes the WJC Canada preliminary roster, as expected. What's surprising is that Parekh, Sennecke, and Yakemchuk didn't.

Dickinson's LHD competition is Molendyk (lock), Price, Mynio, and Schaefer. I think he's got a 75% chance to make it. I was more confident before seeing the other 2024 draftees not even getting on the prelim roster.

 

[LadyStanley]

Full Canada WJC invite list.

 

[matt trick]

Dickinson makes the WJC Canada preliminary roster, as expected. What's surprising is that Parekh, Sennecke, and Yakemchuk didn't.

Dickinson's LHD competition is Molendyk (lock), Price, Mynio, and Schaefer. I think he's got a 75% chance to make it. I was more confident before seeing the other 2024 draftees not even getting on the prelim roster.

Interesting they took Brunicke (who nearly made the Pens) but not Yakemchuk or Parekh from the 2024 draft, though Yak nearly made the Sens. Got to think Bonk is a lock. Not sure who they'll out for out of Brunicke, Gibson, Akey, and Allen.

If I had to guess: Molendyk, Dickinson, Schaefer, Bonk, Brunicke, Gibson, and Akey, but I'd rather have Parekh then Akey and Yakemchuk over Gibson.

Misa is surprising, and a bit disappointing. It would be awesome to watch the top 4 guys duel it out against each other.

 

[LadyStanley]

And...

 

[Hodge]

Good for Svoboda. How’s that smurf Jayden Perron doing these days?

 

[The Nemesis]

Good for Svoboda. How’s that smurf Jayden Perron doing these days?

Stop being weird.

 

[TheBeard]

Svoboda > Musty

 

[Crewouse]

Good for Svoboda. How’s that smurf Jayden Perron doing these days?

Bad Hodge 2.0, bad

 

[Juxtaposer]

Interesting they took Brunicke (who nearly made the Pens) but not Yakemchuk or Parekh from the 2024 draft, though Yak nearly made the Sens. Got to think Bonk is a lock. Not sure who they'll out for out of Brunicke, Gibson, Akey, and Allen.

If I had to guess: Molendyk, Dickinson, Schaefer, Bonk, Brunicke, Gibson, and Akey, but I'd rather have Parekh then Akey and Yakemchuk over Gibson.

Misa is surprising, and a bit disappointing. It would be awesome to watch the top 4 guys duel it out against each other.

If I had the guess, I'd say the final seven D will be Molendyk, Bonk, Gibson, Dickinson, Schaefer, Brunicke, and Mynio. But who knows. Weird decision to leave off both Yakemchuk and Parekh in the first place... maybe Dickinson for PP2 and Schaefer for PP1?

I was kinda hoping Schaefer wouldn't get the call so we could get him at 3rd overall.

 

[The Nemesis]

If I had the guess, I'd say the final seven D will be Molendyk, Bonk, Gibson, Dickinson, Schaefer, Brunicke, and Mynio. But who knows. Weird decision to leave off both Yakemchuk and Parekh in the first place... maybe Dickinson for PP2 and Schaefer for PP1?

I was kinda hoping Schaefer wouldn't get the call so we could get him at 3rd overall.

Kinda like the US, Hockey Canada gets obsessed about building a "proper" team with a grindey 4th line and reliable 3rd pairing along with energy/grind spare guys. So offensively-tilted D like Yakemchuk and Parekh are behind the 8-ball to make the team for those roles.

It's how Jake frigging Furlong made Team Canada last year even though he's 100% pure unfiltered unsexy depth D without an ounce of flash in his body.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Good for Svoboda. How’s that smurf Jayden Perron doing these days?

Outscoring him in the NCAA on a worse team? What's the obsession with Perron?

 

[Jargon]

Stop being weird.

Simple, concise, runner-up for best post of 2024.

 

[Lebanezer]

Outscoring him in the NCAA on a worse team? What's the obsession with Perron?

 

[Hodge]

Outscoring him in the NCAA on a worse team? What's the obsession with Perron?

He's who the draft experts on here thought we were stupid for not taking over Svoboda.

I guess he must have been invited to Canada's world junior camp?

 

[Jargon]

He's who the draft experts on here thought we were stupid for not taking over Svoboda.

I guess he must have been invited to Canada's world junior camp?

You pick the strangest fights, truly.

 

[TheBeard]

He's who the draft experts on here thought we were stupid for not taking over Svoboda.

I guess he must have been invited to Canada's world junior camp?

From doing a shred of research, Perron seems to be doing pretty well at ND and is a big part of their 4th ranked PP.But I guess getting a WJC invite is the definitive selling point.

I guess you're vehemently against us drafting Misa.

 

[Hodge]

From doing a shred of research, Perron seems to be doing pretty well at ND and is a big part of their 4th ranked PP.But I guess getting a WJC invite is the definitive selling point.

I guess you're vehemently against us drafting Misa.

Perron is scoring half a point per game as a 5’9 winger in his sophomore season. We can already safely conclude he will never make the NHL.

Svoboda probably won’t either but at least he has the size, positional versatility and decent enough hands that he could carve out a 4th line role. It’s a great sign that he’s earned this vote of confidence from Team USA.

 

[Star Platinum]

From doing a shred of research, Perron seems to be doing pretty well at ND and is a big part of their 4th ranked PP.But I guess getting a WJC invite is the definitive selling point.

I guess you're vehemently against us drafting Misa.

He's 6'1", ergo he's worth drafting

 

[TheBeard]

Perron is scoring half a point per game as a 5’9 winger in his sophomore season. We can already safely conclude he will never make the NHL.

Svoboda probably won’t either but at least he has the size, positional versatility and decent enough hands that he could carve out a 4th line role. It’s a great sign that he’s earned this vote of confidence from Team USA.

He's not what the team needed and his development was always expected to take longer. I always found it to be an incredibly pointless exercise debating the merits of draft positioning between players still in their teens. It's a nice gesture for Brendan but by no means does it mean much. The reality is there's probably gonna be 10-15 players taken in the third and fourth rounds after Brandon who will end up having better careers.

 

[Hodge]

He's not what the team needed and his development was always expected to take longer. I always found it to be an incredibly pointless exercise debating the merits of draft positioning between players still in their teens. It's a nice gesture for Brendan but by no means does it mean much. The reality is there's probably gonna be 10-15 players taken in the third and fourth rounds after Brandon who will end up having better careers.

Yeah, who needs a big right shot 4C making peanuts on his ELC when Mack and Will are on their big boy contracts? I’d much rather have the next Bordeleau or Gushchin instead.