Post-Game Talk: Sharks at Oilers March 20th 2013

[OldAsianSharksFan]

Darn I completely missed the game after the 2nd period. Man I wish I saw that game instead of playing pool.

Oh well, glad we got the 2 points.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Well-played.

By the eye-test, poor game from Irwin. By the advanced stats, very poor game by Irwin. Probably his worst of the season.

Yes he made some Brentwood Bay bumbles tonight.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Darn I completely missed the game after the 2nd period. Man I wish I saw that game instead of playing pool.

Oh well, glad we got the 2 points.

It was hard to watch honestly. Both teams were pretty ragged.

 

[Juxtaposer]

It was hard to watch honestly. Both teams were pretty ragged.

Edmonton was missing Nugent-Hopkins, although he hasn't been great this season.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Edmonton was missing Nugent-Hopkins, although he hasn't been great this season.

The Sharks dressed Douglas Murray. When Stuart, Murray and Pavs were all out in OT my eyes were like this

 

[Hatrick Marleau]

Well-played.

By the eye-test, poor game from Irwin. By the advanced stats, very poor game by Irwin. Probably his worst of the season.

How beastly was Murray tonight?

 

[SJSharks42]

How beastly was Murray tonight?

He battled hard.

 

[Juxtaposer]

How beastly was Murray tonight?

He actually didn't fair too badly. I think they last "good" game he had was against the Oilers too. Weird, since they're so fast and he's so slow.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He actually didn't fair too badly. I think they last "good" game he had was against the Oilers too. Weird, since they're so fast and he's so slow.

Hes good at taking up free ice so they have less to work with.

 

[Hatrick Marleau]

He battled hard.

That is what I wanted to hear. I don't care if you are a -20, with 20 turnovers, with 20 own goals, and 20pim as long as you battle hard. Kudos to you Mr Murray. You are THE BEST defenseman in NHL history because you battle hard, good sir!

 

[Brent Burns]

Matt Irwin with the Brentwood Bay Blunders

 

[Coily]

 

[OldAsianSharksFan]

Matt Irwin with the Brentwood Bay Blunders

I thought Irwin was a bit overrated on our board. Yes, he can score goals, but he still lacks defensive positioning and stick positioning and can make bad decisions from time to time. He needs to work on his defensive-zone coverage, especially in front of his net, and learn to use his body better.

I see him no better than Braun last year.

 

[SJSharks42]

I thought Irwin was a bit overrated on our board. Yes, he can score goals, but he still lacks defensive positioning and stick positioning and can make bad decisions from time to time. He needs to work on his defensive-zone coverage, especially in front of his net, and learn to use his body better.

I see him no better than Braun last year.

Well it's his first year. Excited to watch him continue to develop.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Irwin makes me think that a lot of defensemen could put up more points if they simply took more risks what the puck. Sadly, that kind of play isn't really liked by coaching staffs...and they might have a point that the other way is more conducive to winning...

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Well it's his first year. Excited to watch him continue to develop.

Hes 26..not exactly wet behind the ears. Hes a rookie at the NHL level but has plenty of pro experience. Irwin will probably never be a defensive stalwart but he can shoot and plays aggressive and hes shown to have a short memory in regards to his mistakes.

 

[Coily]

Hes 26..not exactly wet behind the ears. Hes a rookie at the NHL level but has plenty of pro experience. Irwin will probably never be a defensive stalwart but he can shoot and plays aggressive and hes shown to have a short memory in regards to his mistakes.

26? Trade him he's too old

 

[Juxtaposer]

Hes 26..not exactly wet behind the ears. Hes a rookie at the NHL level but has plenty of pro experience. Irwin will probably never be a defensive stalwart but he can shoot and plays aggressive and hes shown to have a short memory in regards to his mistakes.

It's less "develop", and more that I think he could refine his defensive game, maybe get a bit better at skating.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

It's less "develop", and more that I think he could refine his defensive game, maybe get a bit better at skating.

Exactly. He gets caught flat footed and his indecisions have led to scoring chances and goals. He has a decent amount of defensive awareness and is a willing physical player..just needs a little refinement.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Exactly. He gets caught flat footed and his indecisions have led to scoring chances and goals. He has a decent amount of defensive awareness and is a willing physical player..just needs a little refinement.

He's a very smart player. I think we'll see improvements when he gets completely used to NHL forwards.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He's a very smart player. I think we'll see improvements when he gets completely used to NHL forwards.

I would think so.

 

[Plowevelski]

Irwin really should be in the bottom 6 not on D.

That is unless he want's to go to Vlasic's school of how to successfully defend against an odd man rush.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Irwin really should be in the bottom 6 not on D.

That is unless he want's to go to Vlasic's school of how to successfully defend against an odd man rush.

No he should stay on defense.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Irwin really should be in the bottom 6 not on D.

That is unless he want's to go to Vlasic's school of how to successfully defend against an odd man rush.

To be fair to Irwin, the best way to defend against a 2 on 1 is to avoid having to play against it in the first place.

 

[OrrNumber4]

He's a very smart player. I think we'll see improvements when he gets completely used to NHL forwards.

I think so. He'll have to do it. Defensemen that can't play well defensively rarely can hold down an NHL job, much less one on the Sharks.

In that way, Irwin isn't a great suitor for Boyle. I get that they seem to have chemistry, but I wish TMac would give Boyle-Stuart a chance.

On another note, it has only been two games, but Vlasic and Demers have looked pretty good. Limit the bone-headed plays, and Demers could insure a spot on this roster.