Prospect Info: Shane Wright (Round 1, Pick #4, 2022 draft)
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Wright has a better agent?
Seriously I don't know, but it is a good question.
Looks like wright has the max bonuses allowed, so that explains his contract, and likely Beniers signing last year had a different max bonus available as the cba usually increases the max bonuses every couple of years, but I know Beniers max was at least 2.85m, so he is far from the max.
Looks like he just did not negotiate as well,. But there could be a rule I am missing. We could ask mouser, I bet he'd be happy to enlighten us, but maybe you should do it.... being a mod and all. I imagine mods don't like being bothered by peons like me
The Marquis
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I think mouser tends to just like being right in his answers, no matter where they come from. Which he tends to be right.Wright has a better agent?
Seriously I don't know, but it is a good question.
Looks like wright has the max bonuses allowed, so that explains his contract, and likely Beniers signing last year had a different max bonus available as the cba usually increases the max bonuses every couple of years, but I know Beniers max was at least 2.85m, so he is far from the max.
Looks like he just did not negotiate as well,. But there could be a rule I am missing. We could ask mouser, I bet he'd be happy to enlighten us, but maybe you should do it.... being a mod and all. I imagine mods don't like being bothered by peons like me
I personally think the high bonus is strategic. Beniers has a reputation of being full effort all the time regardless. A worker. Wright is coming off a drop that is regarded as due to lack of effort. Francis might be “show us what you’ve got and you’ll be rewarded”. Beniers didn’t need the incentive. Wright, while I’m not convinced of his lack of effort except in one example, may have an opportunity given to him because of that drop to 4. It’s his bonus to lose.
Could be. But we don't know what the metrics are that trigger the bonuses.
Maybe Wright has a lot more bonuses because he negotiated more difficult achievements?
"100 pts next season for 2M bonus? Sure. piece of cake, signe me up!"
While Beniers bonus may be "play in 60 games"...
The Marquis
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Silkytentacles
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RainyCityHockey
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NiagaraKraken
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Agree. If Cole Sillinger can play in the nhl at 18, so can Shane Wright.
I believe it has something to do with the fact that Beniers signed the contract late in the season and therefore having one year less in his ELC now (played only a handful games). This allows him to get to the bigger contracts earlier. Beniers wouldn't even be able to get the maximum performance bonuses in his first season when his maximum games for the first season of the contract is 10 (or 12 or whatever but certainly not over 41 games) at the time of his signing.
We can see similarities with the contracts of Power and Slafkovsky (even though they are not in the same team).
Power: Owen Power Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps (Similar with Beniers, also signed late last season)
Slafkovsky: Juraj Slafkovsky Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps (Similar with Wright)
Sleestak Nation
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This is the way.
It has to do with the incentive of burning a year of their ELC. It's one of the small differences that can occur between guys drafted out of college v juniors.
With Wright, the guy is signed, sealed, delivered no matter how much he plays this year. Incentivizing the high college draft picks with burning a year on that ELC gets them to sign (typically after their draft year +1); and like @AarG states, those guys get to their first RFA period sooner.
The Marquis
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Ding ding ding! That’s the right answer. Has to be. Beniers bonus was lower because he signed late in season and burned a year of his ELC, Wright didn’t, so the actual per game value of his contract as it relates to the onset of his next is lower than Beniers.
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Fistfullofbeer
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That makes sense. I am guessing we knew Beniers was going to college and he got signed after his college season ended mainly to burn a year of his ELC and get started in the last 10 games. In the case of Wright, I guess there is a good chance he either plays a full season in the NHL or goes back to juniors.
Fistfullofbeer
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Has Wright ever played wing? If yes, where? I am just trying to play with lines and wonder if we could use Wright as a winger on the 2nd or 3rd line if he is not 100% ready for 3C duties at the start of the season?
RainyCityHockey
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You can always play those guys on the wing, if needed, and Wright also has a pretty good shot.
Though, I'm not sure if he's played on the wing before.
NiagaraKraken
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Always been a Center and honestly I’d leave him there. Was thinking maybe Gourde as his winger if we are penciling in Wennberg as a top 9 Center next season.
Fistfullofbeer
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I do think he should start as a 3C. With Burkavosky on the roster we have options to move Gourde to the wing on the 3rd line and pair him with Wright and Tanev. That line would be a hell of a shutdown line with the ability to score.
Schwartz-Beniers-Eberle
McCann-Wennberg-Burkavosky
Gourde-Wright-Tanev
Kuhlman-Geekie-Lind/Donskoi
RainyCityHockey
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I think you're trying too much with Geekie at center.
He's played on the wing in Carolina and would most likely do so(maybe interchangeable with Wennberg) on the 4th line.
The center depth to me, right now, is:
Beniers
Gourde
Wright
Wennberg
Geekie
McCann
Fistfullofbeer
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I am not really trying to force Geekie at C. My concern is that Wright may need some time before he is ready for the 3C duties this season.
Maybe he surprises right out of the gate and shows that he is ready for 3C and maybe even more but I don't want to bet on that.
RainyCityHockey
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3C is usually a position you can shelter very easily and you could rotate a bit on the wing and put McCann with him sometimes.
That way you could switch faceoffs if needed.
brewski420
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The Marquis
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Yes, he was. I was surprised by his numbers on the faceoff.
KevSkillz4
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Congrats for your team. You are going to have two great C with Berniers and Wright.
I'm really happy with Slafkovsky pick, I think MTL select the best player for them, i'm more impressive by Slafkovsky tools, but Wright is a perfect two-way C to have, he reminds me of Suzuki. PPG C potential. Slafkovsky too have PPG potential, powerforward. So Habs decide to go with a PPG powerforward potential than a PPG C two-way potential.
I'm really happy with Slafkovsky pick, I think MTL select the best player for them, i'm more impressive by Slafkovsky tools, but Wright is a perfect two-way C to have, he reminds me of Suzuki. PPG C potential. Slafkovsky too have PPG potential, powerforward. So Habs decide to go with a PPG powerforward potential than a PPG C two-way potential.
I would put Wright with Gourde. Have Gourde play C in the defensive zone and take all the defensive zone draws. Wright can take all the offensive zone ones and they can split the neutral zone depending on where the draw is. In the offensive zone Wright moves to the C to free up his playmaking and Gourde can get to the corners and half wall. You could do that would Berniers as well but I would put Beniers with McCann as he's the best shooter to get the most out of both of them. Wennberg at 3C and Geekie 4C. The other wingers wait to see how guys gel in camp.
I think Wright is going to be your second line centre right away. If a 19 year old can be your first line centre, than an 18 year old can be your second line. Coming into the draft Wright was considered the most NHL ready prospect, while it's looking like Slaf may spend a year in the AHL. Put McCann on his left wing and I guarantee, that McCaan will lead the Kraken in goals, while Wright will rack up.the assists.
RainyCityHockey
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Wright should be eased into the league, especially if you have a veteran guy like Gourde as well.
If you watched the development camp you could clearly see that Beniers was head and shoulders above anyone attenting and that's not surprising.
Beniers already played two years of college hockey and got ten games in the NHL last season while a guy like Wright missed a complete season and is directly out of junior hockey.
By the end of the season things might look differently, but to start his career you don't overwhelm the kid by playing him that high up the lineup.
BTW: There's also not much of a difference between our first and second line, when it comes to playing time, which means that 1st line thing with Beniers isn't that much of a thing.
