Shanahan's Plan to Restore Respectability

[Confucius]

The only thing more disgusting than that contract was the fact that Edmonton apparently offered him even more money.

He gave us a discount? How come we haven’t honoured that with a statue or something. Lol

 

[TheGreenTBer]

He gave us a discount? How come we haven’t honoured that with a statue or something. Lol

Yep, he chose us over the Oilers even though we offered less. How ever so generous of him, right?

 

[Confucius]

Yep, he chose us over the Oilers even though we offered less. How ever so generous of him, right?

Everyone thinks o boy 11 million in cap space. Go by past experiences and all of a sudden it’s not as rewarding,

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

For a decade Toronto was one of the best NHL teams in terms of winning. The Pat Burns/Quinn eras were great. 4 semi final appearances and some great Series vs a team of hall of fame players (DET), and some super talented OTT teams. So many emotional moments, great players, heart, toughness, skill, and goaltending. So many people you could really cheer for.

The memory of that era is fading. I can't even believe it's taken so long and it's so difficult to be winners again.

It's pathetic that this franchises "glory days" since expansion is four Final Four appearances from '92 to '04, and even that seems like an aberration when you consider how this team fared for most of the 70's, all of the 80's, and since the 04/05 lockout.

 

[Racer88]

Everyone thinks o boy 11 million in cap space. Go by past experiences and all of a sudden it’s not as rewarding,

That may be true and that is certainly a danger however we do know the status quo is not getting it done. For 11 million Marner has done nothing to move us forward in the playoffs. As risky as it may be it is high time to move on from him not extend him for 7-8 more years at even more money

 

[Confucius]

That may be true and that is certainly a danger however we do know the status quo is not getting it done. For 11 million Marner has done nothing to move us forward in the playoffs. As risky as it may be it is high time to move on from him not extend him for 7-8 more years at even more money

It’s not status quo, there is a new coach, geez and there is like at least 16 other guys that don’t have NMC’s who have done squat in the playoffs

 

[myleafs]

Ŕestoring respectability as the title mentions can only happen with A Stanley Cup Victory. 57 years and we still talk about 1993 no major penalty call against Gretz. The Leafs and Rangers only have respect because of money.
The Rangers are fighting to gain respect with only one victory since Rocket and Pocket were team mates.
None of Shannys teams have gained us any respect.

Make it to the conference finals and be competitive and thats a good start for me.....Watching the final 4, Berube has his work cut out for him.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Everyone thinks o boy 11 million in cap space. Go by past experiences and all of a sudden it’s not as rewarding,

 

[Racer88]

It’s not status quo, there is a new coach, geez and there is like at least 16 other guys that don’t have NMC’s who have done squat in the playoffs

If the core that is killing the team from a cap percentage remain then yes it is basically status quo. As far as the other 16 guys yes they need to be upgraded as well but they have been swapped out with other scrubs for the last 6 years and it’s hard to make improvements in critical areas with the teams cap structure so yes it is status quo…….unless you think the new coach can turn Marner, matthews and Tavares into play off studs

Make it to the conference finals and be competitive and thats a good start for me.....Watching the final 4, Berube has his work cut out for him.

We are so far away from being a committed final 4 teams it’s sad

 

[PromisedLand]

LOL Keefe thread is closed so this is a good place to put it because ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE

 

[Drytoast]

LOL Keefe thread is closed so this is a good place to put it because ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE

This screams validation to some stupid perception of the Toronto market.

"come here, get paid for mediocrity - make your bank then go play somewhere else for real!"

 

[rumman]

This screams validation to some stupid perception of the Toronto market.

"come here, get paid for mediocrity - make your bank then go play somewhere else for real!"

Isn’t that what’s been happening?

 

[Drytoast]

Isn’t that what’s been happening?

Yes but now it's validated

 

[rumman]

Yes but now it's validated

Roger that……..

 

[Ianturnedbull]

LOL Keefe thread is closed so this is a good place to put it because ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE

He did not have well-established coaches saying that to him

 

[Trapper]

LOL Keefe thread is closed so this is a good place to put it because ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE

5 years of learning under the tutelage of Tavares. He got his Masters in lessons learned and now joined the NJ Devils firm.
Congrats.

 

[Racer88]

5 years of learning under the tutelage of Tavares. He got his Masters in lessons learned and now joined the NJ Devils firm.
Congrats.

And loser handshake respect…..don’t forget that biggy

 

[socko]

Keefe has binders full of Lessons Learned. So many lessons, so few playoff wins.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

This screams validation to some stupid perception of the Toronto market.

"come here, get paid for mediocrity - make your bank then go play somewhere else for real!"

He was never smart. He's a nice guy, but he never was better than the other coach. He never did something clever to ensure his team pulled out a closing game. The hilarious thing is that the 1 series TOR actually won (under Keefe) was through getting bounces, great play by ROR, and a struggling Vasileskiy. Otherwise he would have been 0 for. I can't just take that series win away from Toronto just because I'm emotional. But holy god! They never won that series because he outcoached the other guy.

Late in the season (23-24) Toronto had injuries and a Rielly suspension. Keefe lucked his way into winning games through using his depth.
Lines 1 - 3 looked balanced and difficult to match up (at last). For the first time we saw Tavares play the 3rd line C position. He was great and he played successfully against other 3rd lines. Keefe could have learned from that, but no. He went back to stacking the top 6, and took that same line combinations into a series vs. Boston. On paper TOR was the better team.

Year after year it's been the same with Keefe. He's not a good coach. Regular season success just isn't good enough.

This latest dis by Sheldon has me pretty pissed off. Why did he have to perpetuate such stupidity? There's a reason you're a punch line Sheldon.

Good riddance. You're nothing but a scrub, bush-wacking, lowlife, piece of shit, and bad coach.

 

[Arzak]

He was never smart. He's a nice guy, but he never was better than the other coach. He never did something clever to ensure his team pulled out a closing game. The hilarious thing is that the 1 series TOR actually won (under Keefe) was through getting bounces, great play by ROR, and a struggling Vasileskiy. Otherwise he would have been 0 for. I can't just take that series win away from Toronto just because I'm emotional. But holy god! They never won that series because he outcoached the other guy.

Late in the season (23-24) Toronto had injuries and a Rielly suspension. Keefe lucked his way into winning games through using his depth.
Lines 1 - 3 looked balanced and difficult to match up (at last). For the first time we saw Tavares play the 3rd line C position. He was great and he played successfully against other 3rd lines. Keefe could have learned from that, but no. He went back to stacking the top 6, and took that same line combinations into a series vs. Boston. On paper TOR was the better team.

Year after year it's been the same with Keefe. He's not a good coach. Regular season success just isn't good enough.

This latest dis by Sheldon has me pretty pissed off. Why did he have to perpetuate such stupidity? There's a reason you're a punch line Sheldon.

Good riddance. You're nothing but a scrub, bush-wacking, lowlife, piece of shit, and bad coach.

All valid points.

Sadly he has one of the best regular season records now

 

[ToneDog]

He was never smart. He's a nice guy, but he never was better than the other coach. He never did something clever to ensure his team pulled out a closing game. The hilarious thing is that the 1 series TOR actually won (under Keefe) was through getting bounces, great play by ROR, and a struggling Vasileskiy. Otherwise he would have been 0 for. I can't just take that series win away from Toronto just because I'm emotional. But holy god! They never won that series because he outcoached the other guy.

Late in the season (23-24) Toronto had injuries and a Rielly suspension. Keefe lucked his way into winning games through using his depth.
Lines 1 - 3 looked balanced and difficult to match up (at last). For the first time we saw Tavares play the 3rd line C position. He was great and he played successfully against other 3rd lines. Keefe could have learned from that, but no. He went back to stacking the top 6, and took that same line combinations into a series vs. Boston. On paper TOR was the better team.

Year after year it's been the same with Keefe. He's not a good coach. Regular season success just isn't good enough.

This latest dis by Sheldon has me pretty pissed off. Why did he have to perpetuate such stupidity? There's a reason you're a punch line Sheldon.

Good riddance. You're nothing but a scrub, bush-wacking, lowlife, piece of shit, and bad coach.

Hard to believe the Devils pounced to get him. We should see how good Keefe is this year.

 

[rumman]

Hard to believe the Devils pounced to get him. We should see how good Keefe is this year.

I’ll bet he doesn’t coddle the players like he had to here, probably his first requirement before agreeing to being their coach…….

 

[thewave]

I don’t have a problem with going for milestones.
Kucherov played the last game against us to get 100 assists. MacKinnon played the last game to get 140 points (beating Stasny’s record) by 1 point.

This team isn’t being judged (or made fun of) on one year, chasing a milestone or having a headache.
It’s being judged on 8 years of failures and letdowns.
Everything has been building.

Nylanders headache probably saved us from 4 more years of Keefe. Pretty confident we take the series if Nylander was healthy. Pretty confident Keefe is kept with the series win

 

[Racer88]

I’ll bet he doesn’t coddle the players like he had to here, probably his first requirement before agreeing to being their coach…….

Hopefully he no longer has to walk back stern comments he makes about certain players

 

[thewave]

It’s not status quo, there is a new coach, geez and there is like at least 16 other guys that don’t have NMC’s who have done squat in the playoffs

I think we have a better chance at getting McDavid with the cap space than getting Mitch to be a playoff guy.