Shanahan's Plan to Restore Respectability

[darrylsittler27]

I would look at Carolina, but I don’t see them entertaining Marner’s salary demands.

No way.

 

[ToneDog]

No way.

I'd say the list to pay Marner is very short and rightfully so. Best 100 point player never to hit 100 points.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I'd say the list to pay Marner is very short and rightfully so. Best 100 point player never to hit 100 points.

The currency of Marner is some owners i.e Detroit, know that many Leafs go on to other teams and play better. He also puts many teams in the playoffs for the next 5 to 6 years. Stamkos was the number 5 guy in the playoffs, while being the highest paid for his reg. season feats. Tampa is losing Stamkos so they may need a star more. I will bet 5 teams will make enquiries by July 2nd. I`m assuming Marner wants 12 Million and highly doubt there is where Toronto wants to put it.

 

[PromisedLand]

ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE. Training wheels for stupid ass GMs and Coaches

FU Shanahan FU

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795477431500886072

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I feel like our reputation is worse. It's one thing to miss the playoffs a bunch of years in a row with a terrible team due to poor management. It's another to squander arguably the most talented core in this franchises history by consistently losing in the first round. Making the playoffs with the Leafs under Shanahan is just a two-week excursion before we and the players all start our summers. It's a bizarre trend that could only happen to this cursed franchise. Usually teams that flunk in the first round every year either figure it out eventually or they fall off completely and have to rebuild again. The Leafs have neither figured it out nor been bad enough to outright miss since we drafted Matthews.

In the grand scheme of the NHL this franchise is no more relevant than when they consistently missed the playoffs after the 04/05 lockout. We either don't make the dance at all (pre-Shanahan) or we're an automatic series victory for whoever we face (Shanahan era). Either way our season ends before the calendar flips to May.

There have been exceptions though to our usual patterns of failure. Pre-Shanahan the 2013 season Leafs made the playoffs in a shortened season only to immediately miss the playoffs next season. Under Shanahan the 2023 the Leafs finally won a round only to be right back to first round fodder the next year. Actually, if we go by 10 year intervals 2003 was also a rule breaking year, it was the only season under Quinn the Leafs didn't win at least one playoff round. Funny that.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

"After five years and six playoff rounds, I'm a far better coach than when I arrived in the NHL."

I object your honor, that's speculation.

Your honor: Agreed. No proof. Bailiff: Strike that from the record.

 

[Antropovsky]

... Just watched Keefes introduction to Jersey. I'm so glad he's gone and Dubas. Two guys that talk way too much and try to carefully word everything to try and sound like the smartest guys in the room and comes off very unauthentic and insecure. Keefe explaining how he carefully planned his message to fans and picked the exact spot on the water to do it and had an inclination he was gonna have a meeting even before creating the message. Jesus.. I think Fitgerald was having second thoughts up there listening to proudly ramble on about his message to Toronto haha.

I don't know alot about Berube...but I much prefer his to the point answers and relaxed nature. Much more like most coaches who've been around.

 

[Tak7]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1787240779557089430

Before Shanahan, the Leafs were the laughing stock of the league.

A decade later, real contenders are openly mocking our losses and don't take us seriously.

Those who voted that the Leafs reputation has gotten "better" with Shanahan, need to have a conversation or 3 with their doctors.

 

[Trapper]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1787240779557089430

Before Shanahan, the Leafs were the laughing stock of the league.

A decade later, real contenders are openly mocking our losses and don't take us seriously.

Those who voted that the Leafs reputation has gotten "better" with Shanahan, need to have a conversation or 3 with their doctors.

And we haven’t even mentioned the Zamboni driver and handshake line under his watch.
Well, I have now.
But I’m sure people don’t make fun of that.

 

[Drytoast]

As bizarre as this sounds, I think it all started when we had no stars and it seemed nobody wanted to play here and we really were doormats. I think mgmt started way overpaying guys to make headlines. People would start talking, wow they gave him a 20 million dollar contract. Then think, I don’t know much about that player but he must be great, yay us finally someone good is coming.

I don't think so I think it started well before that during the Muskoka 5.

 

[Confucius]

I don't think so I think it started well before that during the Muskoka 5.

I think it was Jason Blake, lol!

 

[Trapper]

I don't think so I think it started well before that during the Muskoka 5.

I blame Jeff Finger.

 

[ACC1224]

I think it was Jason Blake, lol!

NASCAR was the most frustrating Leaf I've ever seen, just doing those endless laps around the offensive zone.
Such dark days, they were terrible.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

And we haven’t even mentioned the Zamboni driver and handshake line under his watch.
Well, I have now.
But I’m sure people don’t make fun of that.

I actually want to start a whole conversation / thread topic on the end of this regular season.
I'm going to wait because there's still a lot of negativity and damage control going on.

The amount of effort spent getting milestones for Nylander/Matthews was crazy. Was anyone shocked when WN/AM missed games in the playoffs after that? That was a debacle on it's own let alone the handshake line/zamboni.

 

[Trapper]

I actually want to start a whole conversation / thread topic on the end of this regular season.
I'm going to wait because there's still a lot of negativity and damage control going on.

The amount of effort spent getting milestones for Nylander/Matthews was crazy. Was anyone shocked when WN/AM missed games in the playoffs after that? That was a debacle on it's own let alone the handshake line/zamboni.

I don’t have a problem with going for milestones.
Kucherov played the last game against us to get 100 assists. MacKinnon played the last game to get 140 points (beating Stasny’s record) by 1 point.

This team isn’t being judged (or made fun of) on one year, chasing a milestone or having a headache.
It’s being judged on 8 years of failures and letdowns.
Everything has been building.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Ŕestoring respectability as the title mentions can only happen with A Stanley Cup Victory. 57 years and we still talk about 1993 no major penalty call against Gretz. The Leafs and Rangers only have respect because of money.
The Rangers are fighting to gain respect with only one victory since Rocket and Pocket were team mates.
None of Shannys teams have gained us any respect.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I don’t have a problem with going for milestones.
Kucherov played the last game against us to get 100 assists. MacKinnon played the last game to get 140 points (beating Stasny’s record) by 1 point.

This team isn’t being judged (or made fun of) on one year, chasing a milestone or having a headache.
It’s being judged on 8 years of failures and letdowns.
Everything has been building.

Well I have an issue with players chasing milestones. Especially when it's the end of a season and you're in a stable playoff position. I am not just saying this with hindsight. If I were the coach I would be resting my stars. Every time I tuned in to see the last few Leaf games Matthews had 13 shots on goal and the team was down by 3 goals. Did Keefe coach a "give 'em cookies" style of hockey? It certainly looked like it. Is this the kind of hockey you want to play going into a playoff series vs Boston?

Holy God that was bad.

 

[Leafs87]

We went from missing the playoffs annually by a few points and not securing a lotto pick to being knocked out first round annually. Really honestly not sure which is worse. To me they both seem like wasted seasons

 

[Drytoast]

I blame Jeff Finger.

Holy shit I had that memory buried.

 

[3blizzard4]

ShanaCON is a f***ing JOKE. Training wheels for stupid ass GMs and Coaches

FU Shanahan FU

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795477431500886072

They put training wheels on a Ferrari and neutered it.

 

[Racer88]

Wow no more sarcastic tag line on this thread anymore……..I’m sensing some personal growth for someone

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I blame Jeff Finger.

You mean Kurt Sauer, right?

RIGHT?

NASCAR was the most frustrating Leaf I've ever seen, just doing those endless laps around the offensive zone.
Such dark days, they were terrible.

He was also quite good at sniping the goaltender's chest protector.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

For a decade Toronto was one of the best NHL teams in terms of winning. The Pat Burns/Quinn eras were great. 4 semi final appearances and some great Series vs a team of hall of fame players (DET), and some super talented OTT teams. So many emotional moments, great players, heart, toughness, skill, and goaltending. So many people you could really cheer for.

The memory of that era is fading. I can't even believe it's taken so long and it's so difficult to be winners again.

 

[Confucius]

Holy shit I had that memory buried.

35 million for Clarkson was nice… that’s when we wanted tough guys and we still do.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

35 million for Clarkson was nice… that’s when we wanted tough guys and we still do.

The only thing more disgusting than that contract was the fact that Edmonton apparently offered him even more money.