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Prospect Info: Shakir Mukhamadullin (#20 pick - 2020 draft)

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Man everyone wanted a d man. Everyone says our d is soft. Everyone said our d is small.

this kid checks all those boxes. Yet we still bitch on here. To think in the future our d Walsh smith bahl russian kid. That’s talent compared to Andy greene Conner carRick and whoever else.
 
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devilsblood said:
I haven't been following. What were the Devils saying?
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There were rumors #18 and #20 were both on the table.

Fitzgerald said the trade talk was very very quite on Wyshynski’s Twitter after the draft.

I don’t think the Devils wanted to make three picks. We need NHL bodies especially on defense and not more prospects. Would make no sense to trade someone like Coleman for an additional first unless you planned on flipping that asset for another young player.
 
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Being drafted at the 20 slot the expectation for this kid to live up to his draft position is making it as a top 4 d man seeing the crap we have now lord knows we need that so time will tell
 
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Of course he will say that after the fact. He’s not going to say that a Ranger was their first player so they went to a backup. Fact is nobody knows and nobody knows how any of the 31 players will end up in a few years..it’s all a gamble and we all hope our players hit the lotto.
 
I’ll read the comments tomorrow but we already have 6 pages on Shak (which one would assume are mostly filed with negative comments), only 4 pages for Holtz and 2 for Mercer.

This place just cracks me up sometimes!
 
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Taylors lost step said:
I’ll read the comments tomorrow but we already have 6 pages on Shak (which one would assume are mostly filed with negative comments), only 3 pages for Holtz and 4 for Mercer.

This place just cracks me up sometimes!
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Half of them are voice messages of everyone trying to pronounce his name
 
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My3Sons said:
Saying it’s terrible and that there is no excuse is very harsh. Presumably you have reasons to support that position? I’m willing to consider your points. I don’t know the players and don’t have any preconceived notions as to what to expect but saying something sucks without more doesn’t help the discussion. As a father of three I’ll tell you that sounds angry and emotional. That’s my opinion. If you don’t like it feel free to disagree. This should be fun not stressful.
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But here's the thing, my comment wasn't made for discourse. I wasn't opening up a debate. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything, nor is there anything I'm trying to get you to consider because you're fully entitled to your opinion. You liking or not liking this selection has no bearing on me whatsoever. What does it matter if I'm harsh? I was expressing an opinion. If I choose to engage in more conversation to support my opinion I will do so...but we can all express our opinions at any given time. If we aren't allowed to do that, we may as well just shut down GDTs...how many times does someone simply posts "Cory is ******** terrible"? Or Sevs? Or they express some sort of opinion without real backing in the main team thread? It happens all the time.

I've spent months in the various draft threads. I put up rankings...hell, just the fact that I didn't have him in the first round as a top 31 player and there were other guys available in my top 15 is enough to consider this terrible for me and likely for a lot of people. Have I done as much work as some on these prospects? God no, I wouldn't claim that. Nor would I claim that I Have expert knowledge of what I'm watching - I will swear until the day I die that Mavrik Bourque has a piss poor shot and I swear I'm the only one on the planet who thinks that it feels like lol. I've done enough to try and formulate an opinion so that I can have some fun with it. Can I give reasons why I don't like this pick such as I have questions about his mental game and lapses, his puck moving in the nhl, etc? Sure, but nobody cared about my opinion in the predraft talk, and my opinion (before your post just now, which I remind you followed a post saying i ostensibly didn't know what I was talking about and another that called me childish and petulant for expressing my opinion) wasn't asked for in this thread. (I also find me being called out specifically kind of hilarious when I actually presaged this when someone asked if people would be upset if we took Quinn at 7. My response was that I would immediately be upset and that in a day or two I wouldn't care and the next day I would be rooting for the kids like crazy, but I digress).

Also, serious question - why would it matter if it was angry and emotional? It's not directed at anyone and it's not a personal attack. "Don't show emotion" sounds like one of those "manly man" things that I'm really not into. Showing emotion and letting out emotions is good and healthy, and it's one of the stronger aspects of the interwebz as a therapeutic device for individuals. Also, people do that all the time. This board melted down when the Rangers got the first pick. People were so angry. Hell, the humor in this is that @TheGooseIsLoose and I were actually berated in another thread for not being emotional about that...yet now here I am with this. Let it out. I don't care. It can be beneficial.
 
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Forge said:
But here's the thing, my comment wasn't made for discourse. I wasn't opening up a debate. I wasn't trying to convince you of anything, nor is there anything I'm trying to get you to consider because you're fully entitled to your opinion. You liking or not liking this selection has no bearing on me whatsoever. What does it matter if I'm harsh? I was expressing an opinion. If I choose to engage in more conversation to support my opinion I will do so...but we can all express our opinions at any given time. If we aren't allowed to do that, we may as well just shut down GDTs...how many times does someone simply posts "Cory is ******** terrible"? Or Sevs? Or they express some sort of opinion without real backing in the main team thread? It happens all the time.

I've spent months in the various draft threads. I put up rankings...hell, just the fact that I didn't have him in the first round as a top 31 player and there were other guys available in my top 15 is enough to consider this terrible for me and likely for a lot of people. Have I done as much work as some on these prospects? God no, I wouldn't claim that. Nor would I claim that I Have expert knowledge of what I'm watching - I will swear until the day I die that Mavrik Bourque has a piss poor shot and I swear I'm the only one on the planet who thinks that it feels like lol. I've done enough to try and formulate an opinion so that I can have some fun with it. Can I give reasons why I don't like this pick such as I have questions about his mental game and lapses, his puck moving in the nhl, etc? Sure, but nobody cared about my opinion in the predraft talk, and my opinion (before your post just now, which I remind you followed a post saying i ostensibly didn't know what I was talking about and another that called me childish and petulant for expressing my opinion) wasn't asked for in this thread. (I also find me being called out specifically kind of hilarious when I actually presaged this when someone asked if people would be upset if we took Quinn at 7. My response was that I would immediately be upset and that in a day or two I wouldn't care and the next day I would be rooting for the kids like crazy, but I digress).

Also, serious question - why would it matter if it was angry and emotional? It's not directed at anyone and it's not a personal attack. "Don't show emotion" sounds like one of those "manly man" things that I'm really not into. Showing emotion and letting out emotions is good and healthy, and it's one of the stronger aspects of the interwebz as a therapeutic device for individuals. Also, people do that all the time. This board melted down when the Rangers got the first pick. People were so angry. Hell, the humor in this is that @TheGooseIsLoose and I were actually berated in another thread for not being emotional about that...yet now here I am with this. Let it out. I don't care. It can be beneficial.
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As someone who has no real opinion I was just curious what underpinned yours.
 
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JrFischer54 said:
Man everyone wanted a d man. Everyone says our d is soft. Everyone said our d is small.

this kid checks all those boxes. Yet we still bitch on here. To think in the future our d Walsh smith bahl russian kid. That’s talent compared to Andy greene Conner carRick and whoever else.
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Since the 2019 draft we've added Vukojevic, McCarthy, Misyul, Okhotyuk, Bahl and now Mukhamadullin. People aren't wrong for thinking that adding 6 big and mediocre guys when there are better options out there is a bad thing.
 
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Hisch13r said:
Since the 2019 draft we've added Vukojevic, McCarthy, Misyul, Okhotyuk, Bahl and now Mukhamadullin. People aren't wrong for thinking that adding 6 big and mediocre guys when there are better options out there is a bad thing.
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Some of those guys were 2nd and 3rd round picks

I mean come on
 
Looking around online, it's wild how opinions of this guy are all over the place. Some say that he's got great tools but he's raw (wrong, I think). Some say he's big and rangy, but lacks offensive upside (also wrong, I think). To me it feels like he's a smart defender with good size and good offensive ability. So why wasn't he pegged as a 1st round pick? Maybe it's just a lack of exposure because he was getting limited minutes in the KHL rather than bigger minutes in the MHL?
 
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To the doom and gloom posters, you all are completely ignoring the context of the year 2020.

A ton of draft rankings got completely f***ed due to the lateness of the draft and having many prospects playing for the last month. For all we know Mukha could have easily been on many teams boards in the first round or early second. So trading back may have risked not getting him if NJD were super high on him.

Also, if NJD were frazzled they would have called time. They didn’t and quickly made the pick and Fitz didn’t even fumble his name.

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As a side note, I think his nickname should be Mukha. I can see the chants now, “MOOK- HA, MOOK-HA”
 
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Blackjack said:
Looking around online, it's wild how opinions of this guy are all over the place. Some say that he's got great tools but he's raw (wrong, I think). Some say he's big and rangy, but lacks offensive upside (also wrong, I think). To me it feels like he's a smart defender with good size and good offensive ability. So why wasn't he pegged as a 1st round pick? Maybe it's just a lack of exposure because he was getting limited minutes in the KHL rather than bigger minutes in the MHL?
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Id like to throw out my comparable player based off what I have read and that is Adam Larssson.
are they both.....
Tall and Lanky? Check
Crease cleaners? Check
Stay at home Defender? check
Good outlet passer? Check
Hopeful/Questionable offensive upside? Check

If we can get Prime Adam Larsson (before he was trade) with the 20th pick I would be really happy.
 
Xirik said:
Id like to throw out my comparable player based off what I have read and that is Adam Larssson.
are they both.....
Tall and Lanky? Check
Crease cleaners? Check
Stay at home Defender? check
Good outlet passer? Check
Hopeful/Questionable offensive upside? Check

If we can get Prime Adam Larsson (before he was trade) with the 20th pick I would be really happy.
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Except he's supposed to be a good skater, and has some pretty good offensive numbers.
 
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