Post-Game Talk: Sewart Skinner in the FLA Swamp

[K1984]

I watched him glare at his teammates when they all decided to let a few Panthers players into the zone unchecked while they hung out at the bench shuffling about. The ensuing 3 on 0 resulted in a goal and they very much deserved to have a look thrown their way.

It's also not two shit games in a row. He was fine against Vegas amd handily outdueled Adin Hill.

I get it, he's wildly inconsistent. He can be lights out and then he can be an absolute sieve.

But Jesus h f***ing christ is this forum nothing but a bunch of whiny crying little f***ing babies these days. I really do like some of you guys, but the rest of the little f***in whiners around here have made it utterly unenjoyable now. They lost a game against a good team after being a bunch of other good teams.

Like f***in waaaah.

Been a slice, but in the reddit I shall stay from now on. I'd say enjoy the season but we all know most here won't, because they're incapable of not being whiny little bitches.

Amen.

I've left many, many words on here critical of Skinner. I think adding a good backup is as important as almost anything else we do and am not confident that he can be the guy to win the cup.

Having said that- the reaction here is nearing a derangement syndrome. I have no idea how anyone could watch that game from a team defence standpoint and not at minimum split blame 50/50. To pin all that on Skinner is absolutely insane IMO.

 

[rboomercat90]

It were his penalties, unsportsmanlike cost us a goal. His other play was fine..

Also, people feeling the need to defend Bouchard and Skinner need to say more than " oh but Ekholm / Bob were just as bad"

I think Ekholm was shell shocked by how bad Bouchard was playing. He’s seen this before and knew almost from the opening face off that he was out there by himself tonight. It’s one thing to focus on your own job, it’s quite another to know you’ve gotta be covering for your partner all game too.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Sounds like another Finn with Jesse Puljujarvi syndrome.

Sounds like a good buy low candidate for us.

 

[Soundwave]

Amen.

I've left many, many words on here critical of Skinner. I think adding a good backup is as important as almost anything else we do and am not confident that he can be the guy to win the cup.

Having said that- the reaction here is nearing a derangement syndrome. I have no idea how anyone could watch that game from a team defence standpoint and not at minimum split blame 50/50. To pin all that on Skinner is absolutely insane IMO.

They had 4 high danger chances all game long and scored 6 goals, lol.

We were up 4-2 with barely more than a period left, this goalie some how allowed like 4 goals in about 23 minutes of play, couldn't even make a save when it was 5-5 to at least get us a OT point (totally predictable he would allow a 6th goal too, his goose was cooked when he let in that Reinhart goal from an impossible angle, you knew mentally he checked out right there).

You can't relax with this sieve in net ever, have to always play like it's 2-2 all the time, unfortunately that's not a realistic ask of any team. Team I guess just needs to learn that lesson, doesn't matter if it's even 5-0, this dude will let in 3 goals in the blink of an eye.

 

[rboomercat90]

An elite moustache and empty jersey

I think you meant an elite moustache on an empty head.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

Amen.

I've left many, many words on here critical of Skinner. I think adding a good backup is as important as almost anything else we do and am not confident that he can be the guy to win the cup.

Having said that- the reaction here is nearing a derangement syndrome. I have no idea how anyone could watch that game from a team defence standpoint and not at minimum split blame 50/50. To pin all that on Skinner is absolutely insane IMO.

You need your goalie to be able to carry the team when the defense is having a bad game. The thing with Skinner is he rarely does this, when the defense is off we lose most of the time or its a shootout win. In the playoffs he needs to be able to win us games no matter how the team is playing. We need a quality veteran goalie in here, someone they can put in goal in the playoffs if Stu poops the bed. As you said, not confident he can be the guy. He came within one game of doing it, can’t see getting that far with him again.

 

[guymez]

Why wasn't Stu square to the shooter there?

Have a look at the replay...run it at 1/4 speed.



The camera angle makes it tricky to see but it sure looks as if Skinner has the post sealed off from his shoulder down.
From behind the red line Reinhart put that puck off his head and down into the net. He could try that shot a 100 times (with Skinner in that exact position) and MAYBE Reinhart gets that to happen once.
There are goals where Skinner should be roasted for but the fact that many posters on here are picking that goal speaks volumes.

 

[guymez]

Amen.

I've left many, many words on here critical of Skinner. I think adding a good backup is as important as almost anything else we do and am not confident that he can be the guy to win the cup.

Having said that- the reaction here is nearing a derangement syndrome. I have no idea how anyone could watch that game from a team defence standpoint and not at minimum split blame 50/50. To pin all that on Skinner is absolutely insane IMO.

100%
Here we are 37 pages into a PGT and majority of it is just incoherent noise.

 

[Soundwave]

Have a look at the replay...run it at 1/4 speed.



The camera angle makes it tricky to see but it sure looks as if Skinner has the post sealed off from his shoulder down.
From behind the red line Reinhart put that puck off his head and down into the net. He could try that shot a 100 times (with Skinner in that exact position) and MAYBE Reinhart gets that to happen once.
There are goals where Skinner should be roasted for but the fact that many posters on here are picking that goal speaks volumes.

Just throw pucks at Skinner. Magic can happen. Teams know it, there's never a bad shot against him.

Keep it simple against him and he will gift you charity goals, just a matter of time, ask Noah Hanifin, Stu must have him as a Secret Santa, given him two nothing freebies this year.

 

[TheNumber4]

It's true. The Tampa cup teams had a fire in them. You touched their players and they would all dig in and fight. Even guys like Point.

I just don't think the Oilers are build that way. What do you do?


He did specifically say game 6 and 7

I think it’s mind set. I think Tampa was built and draft for size and skill. Their feistiness comes in the playoffs when and if needed.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Sounds like another Finn with Jesse Puljujarvi syndrome.

He has 8 pts in 21 games so far this year

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Have a look at the replay...run it at 1/4 speed.



The camera angle makes it tricky to see but it sure looks as if Skinner has the post sealed off from his shoulder down.
From behind the red line Reinhart put that puck off his head and down into the net. He could try that shot a 100 times (with Skinner in that exact position) and MAYBE Reinhart gets that to happen once.
There are goals where Skinner should be roasted for but the fact that many posters on here are picking that goal speaks volumes.

At about the 2:13 mark it looks like he flinches when he sees the puck coming for his head.

 

[guymez]

At about the 2:13 mark it looks like he flinches when he sees the puck coming for his head.

Yeah...I think that he reacts to the impact or a miilisecond before impact. Human nature.

Also on that goal...I dont what happened to Ekholm. I have no idea what he was trying to do to defend Reinhart.
In addition to that just watch how all 4 Oilers players in the frame at 1:30 are puck watching...including McDavid who should be looking for a trailing Panthers player.
That kind of shit drives me nuts with this team.

 

[iCanada]

Yeah...I think that he reacts to the impact. Human nature.

Also on that goal...I dont what happened to Ekholm. I have no idea what he was trying to do to defend Reinhart.
In addition to that just watch how all 4 Oilers players in the frame at 1:30 are puck watching...including McDavid who should be looking for a trailing Panthers player.
That kind of shit drives me nuts with this team.

Yes it's everyone's fault but the goaltenders that that guy scored on the goaltender from behind the red line.

 

[guymez]

Yes it's everyone's fault but the goaltenders that that guy scored on the goaltender from behind the red line.

Yeah...I cant even take this post seriously.
Do better.

 

[iCanada]

Yeah...I cant even take this post seriously.
Do better.

Well, was that not your point?

Why should anyone have to be worried about Reinhart behind the redline with no pass options available?

Why is it their fault Skinner played the RVH and had a hole?

 

[TheNumber4]

Just throw pucks at Skinner. Magic can happen. Teams know it, there's never a bad shot against him.

Keep it simple against him and he will gift you charity goals, just a matter of time, ask Noah Hanifin, Stu must have him as a Secret Santa, given him two nothing freebies this year.

Just throw perfect bank shots off his mask and have a 50 goal scorer do it, you mean.

 

[guymez]

Well, was that not your point?

Why should anyone have to be worried about Reinhart behind the redline with no pass options available?

Why is it their fault Skinner played the RVH and had a hole?

If you read my previous post I spelled it out...Renhart could try that shot 100 times (with Skinner in the exact same position) and he would be lucky if it goes in one time.

So you know what that goal was all about...LUCK. Bad luck from an Oilers perspective.

The fact that goal is the foundation for an argument against Skinner in this game is ridiculous IMO.

 

[Spawn]

Just throw perfect bank shots off his mask and have a 50 goal scorer do it, you mean.

It’s a crafty play designed to catch goalies sleeping.

Any time it goes in falls squarely on the goalie not being properly positioned. Skinner was caught sleeping.

Crushing goal to give up.

 

[Soundwave]

If you read my previous post I spelled it out...Renhart could try that shot 100 times (with Skinner in the exact same position) and he would be lucky if it goes in one time.

So you know what that goal was all about...LUCK. Bad luck from an Oilers perspective.

The fact that goal is the foundation for an argument against Skinner in this game is ridiculous IMO.

It's interesting how many "lucky" goals other teams get against Skinner versus what we get.

If I was an opposing coach I'd tell my team to just throw a ton of shit at Skinner, chances are you'll get "lucky".

 

[guymez]

Bouchard was by far the worst player on the ice in this game....on this goal Bouchard makes multiple poor decisions.
All he had to do was put the puck behind the net to Kulak who was positioning himslf for that very play. That was the obvious play.
Instead Bouchard makes a complete mess of things and provides Florida with a 10 bell scoring chance which they capatalized on.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Have a look at the replay...run it at 1/4 speed.



The camera angle makes it tricky to see but it sure looks as if Skinner has the post sealed off from his shoulder down.
From behind the red line Reinhart put that puck off his head and down into the net. He could try that shot a 100 times (with Skinner in that exact position) and MAYBE Reinhart gets that to happen once.
There are goals where Skinner should be roasted for but the fact that many posters on here are picking that goal speaks volumes.

It's called sealing the net. Why is he crouched down when no other Panther is in the vacinity. Stand up and hug the post. ZERO chance of a goal

How can anybody defend this trash goal? lol

 

[Soundwave]

It's called sealing the net. Why is he crouched down when no other Panther is in the vacinity. Stand up and hug the post. ZERO chance of a goal

How can anybody defend this trash goal? lol

Are you accounting for the fact there could be ghosts in front of the net tho?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Are you accounting for the fact there could be ghosts in front of the net tho?

Maybe a gust of wind curved that puck

There should be ZERO hole there to hit. Don't care if it is a shot he could not do in the next 1000 tries.

He is crouching down like there is a Panther coming to one time it in front of the net. JUst zero awareness of what he is doing there.

 

[guymez]

It's called sealing the net. Why is he crouched down when no other Panther is in the vacinity. Stand up and hug the post. ZERO chance of a goal

How can anybody defend this trash goal? lol

Watch the play again. Skinner has sealed off the post from his shoulder down to the ice.
His should appears to be at or very near the cross bar.

So use your obvious extensive goalie knowledge and explain what Skinner should have done with his head.
Are you suggesting that Skinner should have been an inch higher with his shoulder and thats what your entire position is based on?