Post-Game Talk: Sewart Skinner in the FLA Swamp

Messrules11

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I think we need to acknowledge that we get bruised and battered in the playoffs and it’s affect the top potential of this team. Drai was hobbled going into the Florida series. Hobbled going into the Avs series.


JSkinner getting rocked and we freeze like deer in the headlights. No idea what to do isn’t an issue.

It’s becoming more and more of an issue now that I think about it.
I’ve been complaining about this no hit Knob Hockey all season, it’s baffling that in a contact sport our team is being coached to shy away from physical play. It makes no sense to me at all, wait till the injuries start piling up and hope to hell McDrai can stay healthy or we’re cooked.
 
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You didn’t think they were special.

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Well they lost to us so I guess they weren't that special after all, huh? ;)

I'm sure going into the regular season last year everyone laughed off the Vancouver Canucks too, myself included.

For me Dallas' weakness isn't necessarily in talent or skill but will as they tend to fall asleep during big games.

Hell I didn't think the Knights would be a threat to us in 2023 if you wanna go back that far. Or the Blackhawks in 2020. Or the Jets in 2021.

Maybe we need to stop overestimating our team.
 

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Well they lost to us so I guess they weren't that special after all, huh? ;)

I'm sure going into the regular season last year everyone laughed off the Vancouver Canucks too, myself included.

For me Dallas' weakness isn't necessarily in talent or skill but will as they tend to fall asleep during big games.

Hell I didn't think the Knights would be a threat to us in 2023 if you wanna go back that far. Or the Blackhawks in 2020. Or the Jets in 2021.

Maybe we need to stop overestimating our team.
I don’t think we overestimate our team. I think we are the best team in the league when our goaltending holds up.
 
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I don’t think we overestimate our team. I think we are the best team in the league when our goaltending holds up.
Are we, though? That's my question. There's thoughts being thrown around here that we should've gone 8-0 in the first two rounds, which is utterly absurd to me.

At the top of their game yeah we are tough to beat, but not invincible. And it goes back to the narrative that every single time this team loses goaltending is the sole reason we lost. This team is not perfect, not by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think we played as amazingly as the score would indicate against Vegas, but we sure did finish well.

Even the team that just won the Cup got outscored 7-0 in visits to Vancouver and Calgary. And for my money they're still the best team in the East.
 

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If McDavid leaves we wont even have a team but cmon go boot up NHL 17 - 23 and LOOK at our rosters. PURE SHIT. McDavid couldn't lead them out of the slums they deserved to be in. Coaches didn't change things but now we have all this McDavid Universe shit happening and ITS NOT WORKING. He is NOT Lebron he will SCREAM to DIG IN but he was SHIT last night and this team we have is product of terrible scouting, bone headed free agency signings, terrible goaltender treatment, and Mark Spector is still around.

But maybe they will turn it around but they missed out on Blackwood and making any meaningful moves. Rip to the careers of every unfortunate soul to skate for the Oil in the recent past. Derek Ryan, Jeff Skinner, and a few others on this roster will be a part of that crew soon.
 

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I think we need to stop relying on Kane as our one and only tough guy. We are putting all our eggs into one basket and we've already paid for that. Cause when Kane couldn't go, we lost ALL of our toughness at the drop of a hat, as we saw in the Florida series. That toughness, that DIRTINESS needs to be through out the line up.

Don't think the Cup Winning Hawks had an Evander Kane. But when needed, a guy like Superstar Keith would elbow a Sedin. Same with the Cup Winning Bolts, do you remember Superstar Hedman just wrecking Gallagher making him a complete non-issue? Or how bout the Cup winning Avs, and Superstar Mackinnon slew footing an already injured Draisaitl? Or Superstar Tkachuk punching McDavid square in the face 5 times?

It's the STARS of these teams that get dirty to push their team over the top. We need that element out of McDrai otherwise we will be bullied instead of being the bullies.
Maybe Take the fight off ice. And make it a real fight. Throw the gloves off and force these panther dirtbags to put their money where their mouth is.

A fight immediately following that JSkinner hit would have stopped play and prevented us from giving up a 3 on 1 by the way.
Your quote that I bolded reads that you wanted a fight lol You responded with needing toughness and DIRTINESS... so which is it?

We have a few guys who could fight. Nurse, Podz, Emberson, Janmark is capable as well. I suggested McCarron as he can play the 4th line centre and PK, he can fight too.

Nurse can be greasy at times and so is Drai.
 

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Yeh okay. Not the forearm shiver to Drais back. Or a twisting his ankle in a scrum. Or slewfooting him while he was already injured. No it can’t be those specific physical plays.

Every single bad thing that happens to Oilers has to lead right back to Stu. Everytime all the time.
Now you got it. Its all Stu Skinners fault.
Nothing else matters.
Easy eh? :nod:

One stat stands out for Florida more than all the others.
I hear you and its pretty much the same thing game after game.

Solution: Stu Skinner reallys needs to start hitting.
 

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The Oilers need to figure out how to respond when a team starts running around and trucking you all night.

A bad but legal hit on JSkinner and they stand there like deer in the headlights not knowing what to do.

We aren’t built to play the same way as the Panthers. They are scouted and built on their abilty to hit and shit disturb.

Maybe Take the fight off ice. And make it a real fight. Throw the gloves off and force these panther dirtbags to put their money where their mouth is.

A fight immediately following that JSkinner hit would have stopped play and prevented us from giving up a 3 on 1 by the way.
To be fair, it only became a 3 on 1 after Bouchard gave the puck away.
 
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meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie :laugh:
McDavid broke a record in the playoffs and Draisaitl was so injured he shouldn’t have been playing in the first place. I’m not dumping on Skinner, but blaming the other two is quite a take.
 

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just more lame excuses....Panthers players were injured too


ah yes, so they're expected to not do their job in the most important games of their career LMAO
There are different degrees of injuries. Like a bruise vs. broken bones. Draisaitl had the latter.
 

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Some unpacking a day later. Look at the GA last night where Skinner is glaring at his D. This happened on a couple occasions and at least once was a striking display. With the D on the ice that the stare is directed at is Ekholm. That took me aback. Because my immediate reaction to that is that Stu Skinner, a bit part flaw on a club should not be glaring at a D that is the foremost reason why Skinner gets to pretend he's an NHL starter. I wouldn't comment on it except its become an increasing thing with Skinner, and apparently he has the delusion to think he has licence to blame others on the team the very few times that they f*** something up. Sure Booch had a bad game. Skinner had the again worst GA you've seen with his brutal misplay of the puck just the previous game. No Oiler came up to him glaring and with hostility. Nobody did that. It was just another in a long line of Skinner farts and the team went forward and scored again to seal the result, a result in a gme where Skinner kept the opponent in the game.

This is two shit games in a row again from Skinner who has a penchant for these and he has the gall to glare at the stud D we've had over the last several seasons, or indeed all the time Skinner has been here. Now I've never seen Ekholm initiate this with Skinner, or anybody, I've just seen him be a real solid and stabilizing D and person on the club. It strikes me that the only reason Skinner is now doing this sort of thing (which has to be offputting coming from him) is that he models and invokes Mike Smith and somehow thinks he has the standing on the club to do this sort of thing. This is the nature of thought, exposed, that we have in net. A guy that is satisfied with making even expected saves, that gets overconfident and sells saves that are just routine in nature, and seems to be easily buoyed with his really nothingburger game and indeed seen bopping his head now in games continually feeling real good about himself and hardly ever blaming himself in any presser.

Skinner in love with himself, blaming others for GA, and even Ekholm. He can be right even on a specific goal or misplay, but he should not think he has that position in the group to do that. he hasn't earned that, like Mike Smith did. If you're glaring at opponents, and on the team the only other guy that does this is McD, you better have earned it.
I watched him glare at his teammates when they all decided to let a few Panthers players into the zone unchecked while they hung out at the bench shuffling about. The ensuing 3 on 0 resulted in a goal and they very much deserved to have a look thrown their way.

It's also not two shit games in a row. He was fine against Vegas amd handily outdueled Adin Hill.

I get it, he's wildly inconsistent. He can be lights out and then he can be an absolute sieve.

But Jesus h f***ing christ is this forum nothing but a bunch of whiny crying little f***ing babies these days. I really do like some of you guys, but the rest of the little f***in whiners around here have made it utterly unenjoyable now. They lost a game against a good team after being a bunch of other good teams.

Like f***in waaaah.

Been a slice, but in the reddit I shall stay from now on. I'd say enjoy the season but we all know most here won't, because they're incapable of not being whiny little bitches.
 

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If McDavid leaves we wont even have a team but cmon go boot up NHL 17 - 23 and LOOK at our rosters. PURE SHIT. McDavid couldn't lead them out of the slums they deserved to be in. Coaches didn't change things but now we have all this McDavid Universe shit happening and ITS NOT WORKING. He is NOT Lebron he will SCREAM to DIG IN but he was SHIT last night and this team we have is product of terrible scouting, bone headed free agency signings, terrible goaltender treatment, and Mark Spector is still around.

But maybe they will turn it around but they missed out on Blackwood and making any meaningful moves. Rip to the careers of every unfortunate soul to skate for the Oil in the recent past. Derek Ryan, Jeff Skinner, and a few others on this roster will be a part of that crew soon.
You didn't like his 3 assists? How many does he need to make you happy? 5? 6?
 
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Tough to watch. Especially seeing as I had to pay to watch on prime. It’s One game, and a wake-up call is required.
 

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Your quote that I bolded reads that you wanted a fight lol You responded with needing toughness and DIRTINESS... so which is it?

We have a few guys who could fight. Nurse, Podz, Emberson, Janmark is capable as well. I suggested McCarron as he can play the 4th line centre and PK, he can fight too.

Nurse can be greasy at times and so is Drai.
Lol I’m just wondering aloud. I guess it’s both. The JSkinner hit last night made me think of all the past series, whether the Flames, Nucks, Kings, or Panthers. Teams target our players and injure them, and we just move on and try to outplay them. I think a fight last night to bring the dirtbag Panthers out from the shadows and make them actually show how tough they are, would have been nice. I think in GENERAL we need to find a way to find dirtiness with dirtiness in the playoffs.

To be fair, it only became a 3 on 1 after Bouchard gave the puck away.
True. It didn’t need to happen. But if it did happen and our forwards weren’t lost in Lala lane, we may have had the coverage to cover that mistake.
 

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I think we need to acknowledge that we get bruised and battered in the playoffs and it’s affect the top potential of this team. Drai was hobbled going into the Florida series. Hobbled going into the Avs series.


JSkinner getting rocked and we freeze like deer in the headlights. No idea what to do isn’t an issue.

It’s becoming more and more of an issue now that I think about it.
It's true. The Tampa cup teams had a fire in them. You touched their players and they would all dig in and fight. Even guys like Point.

I just don't think the Oilers are build that way. What do you do?

McDavid broke a record in the playoffs and Draisaitl was so injured he shouldn’t have been playing in the first place. I’m not dumping on Skinner, but blaming the other two is quite a take.
He did specifically say game 6 and 7
 

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The Florida HF fans after the win last night
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