Post-Game Talk: Sewart Skinner in the FLA Swamp

[Soundwave]

Maybe a gust of wind curved that puck

There should be ZERO hole there to hit. Don't care if it is a shot he could not do in the next 1000 tries.

He is crouching down like there is a Panther coming to one time it in front of the net. JUst zero awareness of what he is doing there.

You're probably right, but again there could be a ghost or ghosts or UAPs or aliens with cloaking technology in the middle of the ice (lots of drones flying over New Jersey these days), so Skinner was just playing the odds. We have to consider that element too.

This goalie has shit for brains when reading plays.

 

[iCanada]

If you read my previous post I spelled it out...Renhart could try that shot 100 times (with Skinner in the exact same position) and he would be lucky if it goes in one time.

So you know what that goal was all about...LUCK. Bad luck from an Oilers perspective.

The fact that goal is the foundation for an argument against Skinner in this game is ridiculous IMO.

Idk man.

Skinner pretty clearly flinched away instead of pressing towards the puck and creates a bigger hole that the puck will bounce in because of how Skinner angles his head.

I think probably that Reinhart probably finds that hole Skinner creates 1 out of 3 attempts atleast, if not more, based on most accurate shooter competitions. If Reinhart hits Skinner's mask, based on how he's not sealing the post, the puck goes in. That's a pretty big target.

It's on Skinner not to create that hole. If Skinner isn't Skinner, if Reinhart isn't confident that he's a complete sieve, he probably doesn't even take the shot. But - he knows Skinner is a sieve, and Skinner reacts perfectly so that it goes in if Reinhart places it well.

It's even more of a joke because McDavid basically patented that move years ago. If any goaltender should be in the know, it should be Skinner.

 

[guymez]

Idk man.

Skinner pretty clearly flinched away instead of pressing towards the puck and creates a bigger hole that the puck will bounce in because of how Skinner angles his head.

I think probably that Reinhart probably finds that hole Skinner creates 1 out of 3 attempts atleast, if not more, based on most accurate shooter competitions. If Reinhart hits Skinner's mask, based on how he's not sealing the post, the puck goes in. That's a pretty big target.

It's on Skinner not to create that hole. If Skinner isn't Skinner, if Reinhart isn't confident that he's a complete sieve, he probably doesn't even take the shot. But - he knows Skinner is a sieve, and Skinner reacts perfectly so that it goes in if Reinhart places it well.

It's even more of a joke because McDavid basically patented that move years ago. If any goaltender should be in the know, it should be Skinner.

He flinched the second the puck hit him in the back/side of the head.
Are you really being critical of that?

If a goalie gives a shooter an inch or 2 to place a puck and the shooter can do that then you credit the shooter because that shot aint going in 99% of the time.

 

[TheNumber4]

It’s a crafty play designed to catch goalies sleeping.

Any time it goes in falls squarely on the goalie not being properly positioned. Skinner was caught sleeping.

Crushing goal to give up.

Shooter made a 1 in 100 shot from a position no goalie even expects a shot from. How many shots like that are taken in a full NHL season you figure? Once? Twice?

Even if you are going to say Skinner is bad at “Behind the goal line bank shots off his mask” type shots. Who really cares it’s not gonna happen again lol.

 

[Soundwave]

Idk man.

Skinner pretty clearly flinched away instead of pressing towards the puck and creates a bigger hole that the puck will bounce in because of how Skinner angles his head.

I think probably that Reinhart probably finds that hole Skinner creates 1 out of 3 attempts atleast, if not more, based on most accurate shooter competitions. If Reinhart hits Skinner's mask, based on how he's not sealing the post, the puck goes in. That's a pretty big target.

It's on Skinner not to create that hole. If Skinner isn't Skinner, if Reinhart isn't confident that he's a complete sieve, he probably doesn't even take the shot. But - he knows Skinner is a sieve, and Skinner reacts perfectly so that it goes in if Reinhart places it well.

It's even more of a joke because McDavid basically patented that move years ago. If any goaltender should be in the know, it should be Skinner.

Reinhart any time he sees Stuart Skinner

 

[Soundwave]

This is exactly how I imagine John Tortorella coaching Evan Bouchard would go but less PG-13:

 

[iCanada]

Shooter made a 1 in 100 shot from a position no goalie even expects a shot from. How many shots like that are taken in a full NHL season you figure? Once? Twice?

Even if you are going to say Skinner is bad at “Behind the goal line bank shots off his mask” type shots. Who really cares it’s not gonna happen again lol.

I mean... That's what Skinner said after this goal;



And this one;



He lets in a lot of goodies from behind the red line.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I mean... That's what Skinner said after this goal;



And this one;



He lets in a lot of goodies from behind the red line.

How about that Garland one in game 1 lol

 

[GMofOilers]

I mean... That's what Skinner said after this goal;



And this one;



He lets in a lot of goodies from behind the red line.

I love how not my fault skinner still getting defended. He’s the worst goalie in the league

 

[Soundwave]

I mean... That's what Skinner said after this goal;



And this one;



He lets in a lot of goodies from behind the red line.

Somewhere Dan Cloutier and Ty Conklin are like:

That's a master class in fraud goaltending.

 

[Soundwave]

How about that Garland one in game 1 lol

This one isn't quite the atomic farts of some of this other ones, but still a classic Stuey Stinkey

 

[GMofOilers]

You guys should try and find a highlight package from Skinner lol

 

[iCanada]

Somewhere Dan Cloutier and Ty Conklin are like:

That's a master class in fraud goaltending.

I love how not my fault skinner still getting defended. He’s the worst goalie in the league

It's a joke to me.

We went decades without having any of these GAs, and now suddenly we're just supposed to hand waive away and be fine with a guy having a legit highlight reel of blooper quality back breakers every year on top of having atrocious stats. Literally with every single year multiple of them being omnipresent in the playoffs.

I just don't get it.

Like maybe I've lost my ever living mind and have nostalgia rose colored glasses - but did Roli let in one goal like that in the 06 playoffs? Let alone the 5+ Skinner did last year in the playoffs?

 

[guymez]

I love how not my fault skinner still getting defended. He’s the worst goalie in the league

Yes...no one should ever try and correct unwarranted criticism for any player.
We should always let our emotions guide us. Just jump on the majority opinion regardless....especially if the majority hates the player.
Resistence is futile...

Seriously...the arguments so far are...Skinner shouldnt have left an inch or 2 of space for a shooter and he shouldnt have flinched after the puck hit him.
How is that a compelling argument?

 

[Soundwave]

Yes...no one should ever try and correct unwarranted criticism for any player.
We should all just jump on the majority opinion regardless....especially if the majority hates the player.
Resistence is futile...

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I see you don't want to comment on the several "ONE in a MILLION doc! One in A Million!" couldn't possibly go in from that angle goals Skinner has let in during just this calendar year alone, lol

 

[GrumpyKoala]

Yes Edmonton management beleives in Stu. Theres reasons for that. 16 game win streak where he was the hottest goalie in the League is one reason. They beleived in him all the way to Game 7 of the Cup finals. So are we really going to pretend he was such an egregious wrong choice when we got 99.7% of the way to a Cup?

People can sit there and pretend that that could have happened with another goalie. But we don’t know if another goalie doesnt shit the bed in LA game 5 or Dallas Game 6 when we got outplayed for 60 minutes and get outshot at a near 3-1 ratio. We don’t close Dallas Game 6 and there’s a good chance we are out for good. We lose Dallas Game 1 and there’s a good chance we are out. And maybe another goalie doesn’t shit the bed against Vancouver in games they outplayed us, but we’ll never know. But we do know the tandem of Picks/Skinner lead to a Win against a team that had our number all year.

Just going off memory at that time. Smith was the better bet than Kosko when we went into those playoffs. Skinner was better than Picks and Campbell when that was the choice. Picks gets easier games too for anyone that wants to say it’s “proven” that he’s better than Skinner. If that was the case, it’s easy for management to simply just choose Pickard, I think there’s a reason they don’t and that can be seen by digging into their performances.

Last year, there was a lot of Skinner solutions bandied about. Ned? Lindgren?

I wouldn't mind being wrong where Stuart somewhat breakout and emerge as a quality starter,
but If you try to make me believe through revisionism history that he already proven that, that where you lost my attention.

Where I agree with you is that its easy to look at the goalie market and not finding anything that look much better, my point is that the organization made no effort in that regards for months, including drafting, to fill up our very shallow goaltending ''depth''

Overall, Skinner aside, we need more saves, regardless where they come from.
In 23-24, we give up 65 goal against in the playoff, good the 18th most by a team in a single post season, but we scored 86, good for the 12th rank in nhl history.

We were more than fine in output, we just needed bare minimum goaltending.

 

[iCanada]

I wouldn't mind being wrong where Stuart somewhat breakout and emerge as a quality starter,
but If you try to make me believe through revisionism history that he already proven that, that where you lost my attention.

Where I agree with you is that its easy to look at the goalie market and not finding anything that look much better, my point is that the organization made no effort in that regards for months, including drafting, to fill up our very shallow goaltending ''depth''

Overall, Skinner aside, we need more saves, regardless where they come from.
In 23-24, we give up 65 goal against in the playoff, good the 18th most by a team in a single post season, but we scored 86, good for the 12th rank in nhl history.

We were more than fine in output, we just needed bare minimum goaltending.

Come on now, we don't need a new goaltender, we set an all time NHL save percentage record in a playoff series win against Vancouver since they started counting save percentage.

Oh right, that was lowest ever.

Maybe we need a goaltender.

 

[OilerTyler]

I wouldn't mind being wrong where Stuart somewhat breakout and emerge as a quality starter,
but If you try to make me believe through revisionism history that he already proven that, that where you lost my attention.

Where I agree with you is that its easy to look at the goalie market and not finding anything that look much better, my point is that the organization made no effort in that regards for months, including drafting, to fill up our very shallow goaltending ''depth''

Overall, Skinner aside, we need more saves, regardless where they come from.
In 23-24, we give up 65 goal against in the playoff, good the 18th most by a team in a single post season, but we scored 86, good for the 12th rank in nhl history.

We were more than fine in output, we just needed bare minimum goaltending.

We only gave up 2.6 goals against per game in the playoffs. That isn’t even bad. Florida gave up 2.58. Vegas gave up 2.59 goals against per game when they won the cup and Colorado gave up 2.75 in their cup winning year.

Our defence/goaltending numbers in rounds 3 and 4 were downright elite. We just couldn’t score goals.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I see you don't want to comment on the several "ONE in a MILLION doc! One in A Million!" couldn't possibly go in from that angle goals Skinner has let in during just this calendar year alone, lol

It’s Bouchard fault for leaving a guy open behind the goal line.

 

[GMofOilers]

Yes...no one should ever try and correct unwarranted criticism for any player.
We should always let our emotions guide us. Just jump on the majority opinion regardless....especially if the majority hates the player.
Resistence is futile...

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Seriously...the arguments so far are...Skinner shouldnt have left an inch or 2 of space for a shooter and he shouldnt have flinched after the puck hit him.
How is that a compelling argument?

Skinner has been shitting the bed for 2 years, he’s been carried by a Stanley cup talented team. He has the worst goaltending skills you will ever see, not my fault skinner is a fraud

 

[guymez]

I wouldn't mind being wrong where Stuart somewhat breakout and emerge as a quality starter,
but If you try to make me believe through revisionism history that he already proven that, that where you lost my attention.

Where I agree with you is that its easy to look at the goalie market and not finding anything that look much better, my point is that the organization made no effort in that regards for months, including drafting, to fill up our very shallow goaltending ''depth''

Overall, Skinner aside, we need more saves, regardless where they come from.
In 23-24, we give up 65 goal against in the playoff, good the 18th most by a team in a single post season, but we scored 86, good for the 12th rank in nhl history.

We were more than fine in output, we just needed bare minimum goaltending.

If your position is that the primary blame is on Managment then I agree.
To properly gauge the goaltending situation you have to go back to the Campbell signing.
That IMO is the primary issue and it still haunts the team today.
This season there is over $3M in dead cap thanks to the Campbell contract.
So with this team being cap strapped they have alotted just over $3M (in addition to the dead cap) for its current goalies.
That is the recipe Management has committed to and they think provide a Stanley Cup.

I think its a mistake but that doesnt mean I am going to be critical of Skinner for leaving an inch or 2 of space for a behind the net shot or flinching when a puck hits him in the head.

I have posted plenty on what I think are bad plays by him but that doesnt mean everything is bad.

 

[Soundwave]

We only gave up 2.6 goals against per game in the playoffs. That isn’t even bad. Florida gave up 2.58. Vegas gave up 2.59 goals against per game when they won the cup and Colorado gave up 2.75 in their cup winning year.

Our defence/goaltending numbers in rounds 3 and 4 were downright elite. We just couldn’t score goals.

The defensive system was and still is elite.

The goaltending is a fraud.

If they had an actual solid goalie they'd win the 2024 Cup Final in 6 games. Probably not even with much of a fuss about it either.

 

[guymez]

Skinner has been shitting the bed for 2 years, he’s been carried by a Stanley cup talented team. He has the worst goaltending skills you will ever see, not my fault skinner is a fraud

Okay then.

 

[K1984]

I mean... That's what Skinner said after this goal;



And this one;



He lets in a lot of goodies from behind the red line.

Neither of these were anywhere close to what went in last night.

If you’re looking for a theme, can you please find me a video of ANY goalie getting scored on by getting a shot fired off the back of their head from the corner? Can you find me one? Ever?

I know Gretzky did it in the 80’s. Might be it.

 

[Soundwave]

Neither of these were anywhere close to what went in last night.

If you’re looking for a theme, can you please find me a video of ANY goalie getting scored on by getting a shot fired off the back of their head from the corner? Can you find me one? Ever?

I know Gretzky did it in the 80’s. Might be it.

Pretty sure Skinner's hero, Dan Cloutier let in a few of those in his day. Classic fraud goaltending.