Post-Game Talk: Sewart Skinner in the FLA Swamp

[TheNumber4]

Most of those "serious contenders" would also have 1 or 2 Cups already if you gift wrapped them McDavid and Draisaitl ten years ago so I wouldn't wear your hand out patting yourself on the back too hard there.

This organization has the best player since Mario Lemieux, and even another guy who is an MVP caliber player, and they have basically one pissed away Finals to show for it. They should have a Cup already, if not 2.

Prove it.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Most of those "serious contenders" would also have 1 or 2 Cups already if you gift wrapped them McDavid and Draisaitl ten years ago so I wouldn't wear your hand out patting yourself on the back too hard there.

This is the correct answer. The goaltending we have been getting the last ten years is not acceptable because it hasn’t led to a Cup. We can excuse Skinner for his shit outings when he actually, you know, wins something.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Most of those "serious contenders" would also have 1 or 2 Cups already if you gift wrapped them McDavid and Draisaitl ten years ago so I wouldn't wear your hand out patting yourself on the back too hard there.

This organization has the best player since Mario Lemieux, and even another guy who is an MVP caliber player, and they have basically one pissed away Finals to show for it. They should have a Cup already, if not 2.

And yet, McDavid and Draisaitl were held pointless in the most important game of their lives
Clearly Stu’s fault

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Dallas was not better. There aren't many better teams actually. We have McDavid and Draisaitl in their prime, we are by default better than most teams just by playing within some structure.

We're better than Florida too.

We love to even the odds and give other teams a fighting chance by having discount bin goaltending. It's like a person who buys a 250k Lamborghini and then cheaps out and puts $100 Walmart rims on the car. That's the Oilers organization in a nutshell.

And yet despite those two being in their prime we haven't won shit regardless of who's in net.

Sorry, but we weren't better than Florida. I'm not even sure we were better than Dallas. They were a deep team with an elite goalie.

You talk about spending money on goaltending. Toronto and Washington are spending about what we are on goaltending. Vegas is spending a bit more but not significantly so, and that's only because Hill already won a Cup with them. That's 3/4 of the current division leaders. The only other one is Winnipeg and we all know they'll crash and burn.

 

[Soundwave]

Proof?

Uh maybe go look at the next relative closest comparable to McDavid and Draisiatl in the modern era.

Crosby and Malkin. They had what? 2 or 3 Cups by this time and 3 or 4 Finals appearances?

McDavid is probably better than Crosby too.

Main difference is the Penguins had far better goaltending in every Cup run they had. Skinner can't hold a prime MAF or Murray's jockstrap.

 

[TheNumber4]

Uh maybe go look at the next relative closest comparable to McDavid and Draisiatl in the modern era.

Crosby and Malkin. They had what? 2 or 3 Cups by this time and 3 or 4 Finals appearances?

McDavid is probably better than Crosby too.

Main difference is the Penguins had far better goaltending in every Cup run they had. Skinner can't hold a prime MAF or Murray's jockstrap.

And they had a Seive in net who got pulled more times than Skinner during the playoffs.

I think both Cup runs their backup took about 40-60% of games lol. And they had no idea that that would happen. Murray would come out of nowhere. Fleury would shit the bed. Voodoo.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I've already said this, but if Skinner didn't have among the worst numbers of starting goalies in the league he'd get some grace for bad starts. But when his season numbers are among the very worst in the NHL for starters, he doesn't get a free pass for the dog shit games he has.

You are talking to deaf ears by bringing up actual stats.

It's like Skinner has this magic voodo spell he puts on his cult of followers

You just watch the guy in the net. The way he moves. The way he is slow. The way he gets lost a lot.

And somehow they still are ok with this guy trying to lead us to a cup. Actually have trust in him when our team does not play perfect D.

It's loyal though, I give them that

 

[Dirk Dangler]

As opposed to returning home drunk, pour his drink on himself and babble a I wish I had a Shersnapkin.

With the way this organization treats the goaltending position who knows.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Don’t get mad at skinner guys he was good for 2 weeks this entire season.

 

[Soundwave]

And they had a Seive in net who got pulled more times than Skinner during the playoffs.

You might want to go look at the playoff runs Pittsburgh had, because you're drunk off your ass if you think that's true.

Crosby would have 0 Cups in his career with Skinner as his starter.

There's a reason Team Canada doesn't want to touch this fraud with a 50 foot pole even though he was just recently in the Finals (which should get at least the third string job almost by default). Skinner blew an almost guaranteed shot on Team Canada, you have to f***ing try to suck that bad.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Probably because serious contenders don't do stupid shit in net, most of them get a legit starter and spend a few bucks there.

The only reason Vancouver was even looking at Lankinen is because Demko has been suffering from some kind of freak injury, not because that was ever plan A.

Imagine if Skinner was down in the off season (not that I would be sad).

"Mehh, we got Picks back dere boyz. What are the odds he goes down? We can call up Rodrigues"

 

[Drivesaitl]

And yet, McDavid and Draisaitl were held pointless in the most important game of their lives
Clearly Stu’s fault

It still is. Despite you thinking this is clever. It was a 1-1 game and the Oilers getting stoned on one end and Florida being lucky we didn't go ahead several times in the game, then Panthers get a nothing controlled rush up ice on the wing and Skinner is beat clean from range on a shot he should see. Just Skinner kneeling down like a cardboard cutout. The Panthers broadcast were going on and on about how much Skinner is down and laughing about it. Because they've seen this clown before.

Game 7 sC finals are notoriously low scoring. The best players in the history of the game have had these where they haven't got on board. Letting in a bad goal in a game 7 is inexcusable. Especially after the weaksauce playoffs Skinner had.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

When a starter is over 30 games into the season. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because he had 5 decent games recently.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

And they had a Seive in net who got pulled more times than Skinner during the playoffs.

The mistake that Soundwave is making is the same mistake that Oilers management has made for years: Always thinking the top picks where auto-win buttons. Ovi had to wait 12 years to get a Cup. It took MacKinnon 8 years to win a Cup. Matthews will probably never get one in Toronto.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

It still is. Despite you thinking this is clever. It was a 1-1 game and the Oilers getting stoned on one end and Florida being lucky we didn't go ahead several times in the game, then Panthers get a nothing controlled rush up ice on the wing and Skinner is beat clean from range on a shot he should see. Just Skinner kneeling down like a cardboard cutout. The Panthers broadcast were going on and on about how much Skinner is down and laughing about it. Because they've seen this clown before.

Game 7 sC finals are notoriously low scoring. The best players in the history of the game have had these where they haven't got on board. Letting in a bad goal in a game 7 is inexcusable. Especially after the weaksauce playoffs Skinner had.

So you expected a 1-0 win with 2 of the best players in the world being held pointless?

 

[OfCorsiDid]

But this isn’t what successful teams have done. They try various options until one sticks. Meanwhile we hand the crease over no questions asked to whoever management feels is the answer and refuse to try anything else until it’s too late. It’s why we have no Cups in recent memory while other teams do.

No you’re thinking of one team. Vegas. Nobody else has done this.

2024: Florida - Bobrovsky - signed as UFA in 2019
2022: Colorado - Kuemper - Traded to COL in offseason.
2021: Tampa - Vasilveskiy - Drafted and developed
2020: same as above
2019: St. Louis - Binnington - Drafted and developed
2018: Washington - Holtby - Drafted and developed
2017: Pittsburgh - Murray - Drafted and developed
2016: same as above
2015: Chicago - Crawford - Drafted and developed
2014: Los Angeles - Quick - Drafted and developed

Do you see a pattern? I am absolutely EXHAUSTED by people on here that create their own realities that suit their opinions.

 

[Soundwave]

The mistake that Soundwave is making is the same mistake that Oilers management has made for years: Always thinking the top picks where auto-win buttons. Ovi had to wait 12 years to get a Cup. It took MacKinnon 8 years to win a Cup. Matthews will probably never get one in Toronto.

McDavid is better than all of those players.

The mistake the management is making is thinking they should just be gifted a Cup with mediocre goaltending. They could study the Penguins for 15 minutes and the formula is right there, but they want to be the smartest morons in the room and try to prove to everyone that spending nothing in net is a genius philosophy.

 

[TheNumber4]

You might want to go look at the playoff runs Pittsburgh had, because you're drunk off your ass if you think that's true.

Crosby would have 0 Cups in his career with Skinner as his starter.

There's a reason Team Canada doesn't want to touch this fraud with a 50 foot pole even though he was just recently in the Finals (which should get at least the third string job almost by default).

Year 1: they played 3 goalies, Murray(the back up) played most games, fleury 2, zatkoff 2.

(Who the f*** is Zatkoff by the way)

Year 2: fleury 15 games, Murray 11 games.

Next year Fleury plays most games and Murray back to being a back up.

And you want to say they knew they had a Lock in net going into those cup runs? Obviously goaltending went a miss with that kind of usage. They adjusted around it and found a way to win.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Nah, he's right, Smith was a talented puck handler, battled, and generally thought the game well.

If they had a prime Smith the past 4 years they probably win at least one Cup

We never had prime Smith. This revisionist history is completely Pejorative Slured.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You might want to go look at the playoff runs Pittsburgh had, because you're drunk off your ass if you think that's true.

Crosby would have 0 Cups in his career with Skinner as his starter.

There's a reason Team Canada doesn't want to touch this fraud with a 50 foot pole even though he was just recently in the Finals (which should get at least the third string job almost by default). Skinner blew an almost guaranteed shot on Team Canada, you have to f***ing try to suck that bad.

McDavid would have a Cup if the Oilers got to shoot on Osgood like the Pens did lol

 

[Soundwave]

No you’re thinking of one team. Vegas. Nobody else has done this.

2024: Florida - Bobrovsky - signed as UFA in 2019
2022: Colorado - Kuemper - Traded to COL in offseason.
2021: Tampa - Vasilveskiy - Drafted and developed
2020: same as above
2019: St. Louis - Binnington - Drafted and developed
2018: Washington - Holtby - Drafted and developed
2017: Pittsburgh - Murray - Drafted and developed
2016: same as above
2015: Chicago - Crawford - Drafted and developed
2014: Los Angeles - Quick - Drafted and developed

Do you see a pattern? I am absolutely EXHAUSTED by people on here that create their own realities that suit their opinions.

Actually the pattern is the last 3 Cup winners all signed or acquired their starting goalie that won them the Cup.

You convienantly don't want to list that. We would have won the Cup in 2006 too if Roloson didn't get hurt and we sure as f*** didn't draft him.

 

[Drivesaitl]

So you expected a 1-0 win with 2 of the best players in the world being held pointless?

I expected a 2-1 Oiler win. But Skinner gave up the winner, on a routine rush. The Panthers on the bench were surprised they even scored on that one. Just disgusting that a goal like that ends up being the SC winner. It was a contained rush, and shot from the wing, that Skinner should have saw and stopped.


meanwhile Bobo proceded to stone the best players in hockey several times in that game pulling it out for Panthers.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

McDavid is better than all of those players.

The mistake the management is making is thinking they should just be gifted a Cup with mediocre goaltending. They could study the Penguins for 15 minutes and the formula is right there, but they want to be the smartest morons in the room and try to prove to everyone that spending nothing in net is a genius philosophy.

Yup, but he's only one piece of the puzzle. This team actually missed the playoffs a few times with McDavid fully healthy. Not to mention suffered some rather humiliating playoff losses. This isn't basketball. You need good players up and down the lineup.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

When a starter is over 30 games into the season. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because he had 5 decent games recently.

He does in this town

The standards here are that the D must play picture perfect and be top 5 every game. Goalie is never at fault.

I would say out of every 10 games played, Skinner fans are happy if he gets 900 in half of them.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I expected a 2-1 Oiler win. But Skinner gave up the winner, on a routine rush. The Panthers on the bench were surprised they even scored on that one. Just disgusting that a goal like that ends up being the SC winner. It was a contained rush, and shot from the wing, that Skinner should have saw and stopped.


meanwhile Bobo proceded to stone the best players in hockey several times in that game pulling it out for Panthers.

Their 10 million dollar man came up big
Our 8.5 million and 12.5 million dollar players managed 0 goals in the final 2 games and 0 points in Game 7