Post-Game Talk: Sewart Skinner in the FLA Swamp

[Drivesaitl]

You're right, teams come back from down 2-0 in the Finals all the time.

1 goal in two games in Florida. The power play managed all of 2 goals in the entire series. Neither of those things have anything to do with the goalie.

Its happened 5X. As recently as 2011. The Oilers had already shown legendary resilience and withstanding anything, except in the end their substandard goalie. More goalpost shifting is the likely forecast for your posts. The Oilers win the final in 6 if Skinner doesn't give game 3 away.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I agree with this.
The HF hivemind has clearly kicked in once again (almost 30 pages so far) and if you arent on board 100% (in this case with the Skinner narrative) then you become a target too.
Just disagree a little bit and you will become a Skinner fan club memeber...lol
Its been that way on here for many years now and its not likely to change.

If you break down the goals in last nights game...there were some pretty odd goals to say the least.
Maybe a goal or 2 he should have had but as I have stated before when this team gives up a HDSC its a HDSC on steroids. Its ridiculous.
Last nights game was an example of how not to play Stanley Cup caliber defence. How not to properly manage the puck.
Bouchard was by far the worst Oiler on the ice last night...not Skinner. Bouchard has been garbage for most of the season and against Florida he had some help

Skinner is still a relatively inexperienced goalie who at this point in time is an average NHL goalie at best. He can play above average for spells. He can also play below average for spells as well.
This team (because of poor management decisions) is currently spending $3.6M on goaltending which I believe is the 2nd lowest in the NHL.
So this team doesnt seem to care enough to pay much more than bargain basement prices for their goaltending.
Its like a company deciding to purchase some of their critical equipment from a low grade chinese manufacturer for a bargain price and then being surprised that the equipment is breaking down.

News flash...you get what you pay for.

Yeah, that high danger chance from behind the net that skinner let in, can’t allow teams to take shots like that

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Its happened 5X. The Oilers had already shown legendary resilience and withstanding anything, except in the end their substandard goalie. More goalpost shifting is the likely forecast for your posts. The Oilers win the final in 6 if Skinner doesn't give game 3 away.

If their resilience was legendary they would've won the series. They would've gotten at least one win in Florida before coming home. Hell they had a lead in game 2 when Bobrovsky let in a terrible goal and played like ass for the rest of the game. Don't believe me? Go see McDavid's tirade after the game.

Again, I don't know what you're basing this "Should've won in six" stuff on like the Panthers weren't also trying to win. It's like every team the Oilers face is some Minnesota Wild levels of patsy in the eyes of some and they should all be swept away.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yup, his fault they didn't score on the power play in the first three games and only managed to score once in two games in Florida. I don't even know what you're basing this "Should've won in six games" nonsense on. Florida was a damn good team. You don't get to the Finals in back to back years by accident.

You know perfectly well. The Oilers took the series over in game 3, even having a wide margin of play in that game. Skinner gave it away. If the Oilers get game 3, and go onto win game 4, 5, 6 just as they did its a sweep. You could argue Florida might have been better in those games but the Oilers were running the panthers out of those games. Only having a game 7 at home (because of game 3) allowed the Panthers to reset.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

0 goals in game 1. 1 goal in game 2. 1 goal in game 7. How come the Panthers didn't win the games they only scored once in?

One thing that doesn't really get talked about around here for that series was that the power play was extremely pedestrian. 2 goals in the entire series. Our PK managed that much.

Maybe bob was better than you thought he was.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yeah, that high danger chance from behind the net that skinner let in, can’t allow teams to take shots like that

Or the 5 shots from the point that Skinner didn't even track. Amazing really that anybody defending Skinner in that game but then I look and its the same posters as always.

Ironically stating "the hf hivemind" As if realizing Skinner is grossly subpar as a starter is some kind of distortion. The same poster supports Schwartz as goalie coach, still, its all you need to know.

I would think it takes an enormous leap of faith to even still be defending Schwartz and Skinner. Or at least enormous cognitive distortion.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

This team (because of poor management decisions) is currently spending $3.6M on goaltending which I believe is the 2nd lowest in the NHL.

They’re actually spending more when you factor in Campbell’s buy out.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Maybe bob was better than you thought he was.

or McDavid and Draisaitl were worse...

 

[guymez]

Yeah, that high danger chance from behind the net that skinner let in, can’t allow teams to take shots like that

The shot that goes in once out of a hundred times? The shot that has to be perfect to go in?
That is clearly the best you have eh...good for you.
Carry on.

 

[OilerTyler]

You're right, teams come back from down 2-0 in the Finals all the time.

1 goal in two games in Florida. The power play managed all of 2 goals in the entire series. Neither of those things have anything to do with the goalie.

People around here act like the Oilers are supposed to be some defensive stalwart team that relies on elite goaltending to win games. Ask people around the league what our identity is and they'll all say the same thing - elite offence/high scoring. Our payroll structure supports that.

Yet when our $2.6 million goalie has a good finals (2.33, .909 - statistically better than Bobrovsky) and our offence completely disappears in three games people still want to throw all the blame on the goalie. Our offence lost us the finals. It's not really a discussion at all. Has any team ever won a series where they scored 1 goal or less in 3 games? Probably not.

 

[guymez]

They’re actually spending more when you factor in Campbell’s buy out.

100%. Holland kicked his own team in the junk by commiting to him.
Campbell is the biggest reason why this team didnt win the SC last season. Not only because of the lost cap space but also because it forced Skinner into a situation he wasnt ready for.
All things considered Skinner actually did okay.
Signing Campbell was an unmitigated disaster and the irony is that many of the poeple on here shitting on Skinner were actually Campbell supporters.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

You know perfectly well. The Oilers took the series over in game 3, even having a wide margin of play in that game. Skinner gave it away. If the Oilers get game 3, and go onto win game 4, 5, 6 just as they did its a sweep. You could argue Florida might have been better in those games but the Oilers were running the panthers out of those games. Only having a game 7 at home (because of game 3) allowed the Panthers to reset.

so Skinner is at fault for Game 3, "Fatigue" at fault for Games 1 and 2...meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie

 

[OilerTyler]

so Skinner is at fault for Game 3, "Fatigue" at fault for Games 1 and 2...meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie

Too many people post emotionally instead of logically. Yeah, Skinner has been (for the most part) bad this year. That doesn't mean everything bad that has happened to this team over the last year is his fault. Skinner was great in the playoffs after he came back in for Pickard. Our offence let the team down. It is what it is.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Yes we do if Skinner only gets 3 out of those 10 starts

I mean he's been better lately. Let's see how he rebounds from this

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Maybe bob was better than you thought he was.

He was really good in game 1, I'll give him that. Wasn't overly impressed with him otherwise.

You know perfectly well. The Oilers took the series over in game 3, even having a wide margin of play in that game. Skinner gave it away. If the Oilers get game 3, and go onto win game 4, 5, 6 just as they did its a sweep. You could argue Florida might have been better in those games but the Oilers were running the panthers out of those games. Only having a game 7 at home (because of game 3) allowed the Panthers to reset.

But again, they didn't win in games 1 and 2. If they win even one of those games we're probably having a different conversation. I don't put a ton of stock into a couple garbage time goals in game 3. Why wait until game 3? Why did they put in a piss poor effort in game 2? It's the Stanley Cup Final.
You're treating the Panthers as if they weren't a world class team of their own. They slaughtered the Lightning and had next to no problems with the Bruins either. Shesterkin was the only thing keeping the Rangers from getting swept.

It's next to impossible to win when you score one goal or less, period. 3 games in the series they managed less than 2 goals. Draisatl didn't score once during the series. McDavid was extremely pedestrian until game 4.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

so Skinner is at fault for Game 3, "Fatigue" at fault for Games 1 and 2...meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie

Mcdavid and Drai let us down. Skinner was what he was. Wasn't good, Wasn't bad

 

[Yuke]

Yeah, that high danger chance from behind the net that skinner let in, can’t allow teams to take shots like that

When an Oiler makes that shot it is an excellent shit. When Skinner let's one in from that spot it is goalies fault.
I see your reasoning, makes alot of sense

 

[guymez]

so Skinner is at fault for Game 3, "Fatigue" at fault for Games 1 and 2...meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie

The really funny part...he was a big time Campbell supporter.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The shot that goes in once out of a hundred times? The shot that has to be perfect to go in?
That is clearly the best you have eh...good for you.
Carry on.

What about the wrister that hit him in the logo that he couldn’t control that bounced in.

He sucked, I don’t know why you defend him even when he’s terrible.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Elite at what

I'd say interviews/media?

 

[guymez]

What about the wrister that hit him in the logo that he couldn’t control that bounced in.

He sucked, I don’t know why you defend him even when he’s terrible.

Maybe take a breath (calm down) and actually read my posts before repsonding.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

People around here act like the Oilers are supposed to be some defensive stalwart team that relies on elite goaltending to win games. Ask people around the league what our identity is and they'll all say the same thing - elite offence/high scoring. Our payroll structure supports that.

Yet when our $2.6 million goalie has a good finals (2.33, .909 - statistically better than Bobrovsky) and our offence completely disappears in three games people still want to throw all the blame on the goalie. Our offence lost us the finals. It's not really a discussion at all. Has any team ever won a series where they scored 1 goal or less in 3 games? Probably not.

I also think people sometimes overrate this team. Like yeah they're good but that doesn't mean that other teams aren't. It's really strange to me that people think Dallas was some kind of pushover team that totally wasn't heavily favoured to win the series and the Cup. The Panthers made the Finals the year before and took out some really good teams along the way. In 2024 nobody in the East even threatened them on the way to the Finals.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Or the 5 shots from the point that Skinner didn't even track. Amazing really that anybody defending Skinner in that game but then I look and its the same posters as always.

Ironically stating "the hf hivemind"As if realizing Skinner is grossly subpar as a starter is some kind of distortion. The same poster supports Schwartz as goalie coach, still, its all you need to know.

Stu's below average overall numbers are all a lie. It's just a mirage

He's actually Real Gud

 

[Drivesaitl]

so Skinner is at fault for Game 3, "Fatigue" at fault for Games 1 and 2...meanwhile, Draisaitl, who was held goalless all series and didn't record a point until Game 6, gets a pass? same with McDavid who was held pointless in Games 6 and 7?

hilarious to blame the average 2.6 mil goalie

Drai was playing injured. As were several other OIlers. This is confirmed information. Apparently you blame Draisaitl, a legendary player for having the Gall to be injured in the playoffs, in the SC final.

Yeah, McD and Drai get a pass because they are generational superstars. I guess you missed that. You're exhibit A for ingrate, you don't deserve players of this caliber. Maybe you deserve Tkachev. lol

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Maybe take a breath (calm down) and actually read my posts before repsonding.

Why would I bother, it’s the same not my fault skinner stuff about how the oilers give up higher danger chances.

Bobrovsky was terrible last night and still saved some high danger chances.