Value of: Seth Jones

pth2

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Cap works if a Nylander for Jones trade were to get done in the summer. Wouldn't even require Toronto to move a contract.

The problem is that Kyle hates Kyle.
No worries ! Use the Habs as a go-between - Jones and a 1st go to Montreal for Future considerations, Nylander and a 1st go to Montreal for future considerations, and the future considerations turn into Nylander and Jones ! Voilà ! Win-win all-around !
 

Djp

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Problem is that it’s an 8 yr contract. That will be a big problem in 4 yrs. It’s buy out proof. Chicago probably needs to retain $3.5M on that To have any team be able to attempt to swallow it.
 

Albus Dumbledore

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Tavares for Jones.

Two high cap players within a similar age range(27 vs 31). Leafs save 1.5 million on cap and the Hawks only have JT's contract for 3 more years after this year. Leafs take some added risk with the length of the contract but Jones is young and has a good track record. Solidifies the Leafs D, saves space. And Leafs would in turn better allocate money for a forward and well balanced roster. Tavares could actually be flipped in 1-2 years. With some serious retention. And yield extra assets for the Hawks for a rebuild. JT is still a solid player. Despite struggling this year is still a sub ppg player.

JT has a NMC so this would never happen.
 
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pth2

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Problem is that it’s an 8 yr contract. That will be a big problem in 4 yrs. It’s buy out proof. Chicago probably needs to retain $3.5M on that To have any team be able to attempt to swallow it.
The trick is to find a 6 or 7 year deal elsewhere to set up a deal.

Weber and Subban both had huge deals and got dealt for one another. Lucic and Neal had similar deals, too. It can work, it's just hard to find a good fit for everyone.
 

Jeremy2020

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So, rumors are that the Hawks are going to talk to their top players and ask if they want to stick around. If Jones asks for a trade, what can the Hawks get back in a deal?

This is his player card from Dom L. this year

Get back? You mean what do they have to give up?
 

Kevin Musto

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Tavares for Jones.

Two high cap players within a similar age range(27 vs 31). Leafs save 1.5 million on cap and the Hawks only have JT's contract for 3 more years after this year. Leafs take some added risk with the length of the contract but Jones is young and has a good track record. Solidifies the Leafs D, saves space. And Leafs would in turn better allocate money for a forward and well balanced roster. Tavares could actually be flipped in 1-2 years. With some serious retention. And yield extra assets for the Hawks for a rebuild. JT is still a solid player. Despite struggling this year is still a sub ppg player.

JT has a NMC so this would never happen.
If it weren't for the NMC, that would be a very smart suggestion.

Pajama Boy won't waive.
 

Asymmetric Solution

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Buffalo may be interested pairing him with Power or Dahlin and has the cap space. Maybe something like Ryan Johnson + FLA 1st.
 

WingsMJN2965

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As I said before he even, “resigned”…

It’s a shame Stan Bowman got fired for the sexual assault coverup. It took the spotlight off firing him because he was a shit GM.
 

WingsMJN2965

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Buffalo may be interested pairing him with Power or Dahlin and has the cap space. Maybe something like Ryan Johnson + FLA 1st.
Tying up $19M in Jones and Skinner for 6 years while you’ve got talent like Dahlin, Power, Cozens, Quinn, Krebs, etc. coming in and eventually needing money seems like a bad idea.
 

WingsMJN2965

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Make the return better. They need assets.
They also save 2 years on the back end.
Don’t think either team gets much of a return on that. Honestly, BUF probably gets the better of it because they’d owe Jones $67M compared to the $34M they’d have to pay Skinner.
 

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Why would Hawks look to trade him?

He is only 27 yrs old and having a #1 dman in place would likely be good to accelerate a rebuild

And you need vets around kids coming thru especially on D

Literally the first sentence in the OP
 

BB88

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Who cares what contenders are going to do? Seth Jones doesn't need to go to a contender. He needs to go to a team that thinks Seth Jones helps them get closer to a contender/playoff status. Plus money has a funny way of opening up in the summer.

So they’ll go ask him do you want to get traded and he’ll say yes to a bottom feeder?
He had only few teams he was willing to negotiate.

Nobody is taking that contract at 100% while giving up value
 
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