OT: Sens Lounge LXXXVIV - Roman Numerals!!!!

[Do Make Say Think]

Nights are the bomb.

Morning is for lounging and reflecting on the night that was, not work.

 

[BondraTime]

Your take about 100% nights is interesting to me. I managed a couple of groups that worked nights, 3 X 12.5 hour shifts per week. I always tried to treat the night guys like gold because I figured they were giving up a lot.

Occasionally I would have to replace one that moved on to another job or left, I was always terrified I wouldn't find a replacement. I would spend a long time talking a 9-5er into just trying it for awhile as it would be a big favour to me. 100% of the time the guy would end up staying on nights full-time because they adjusted their lives and learned to love it.

Nights can be hard on folks, but my experience is that people with the right attitude thrive with it. But managers must be willing to do what they can to accommodate them.

I moved home (NFLD) from New Brunswick about a year ago, directly after the QMJHL draft. I was put on nights at my new job from June-mid July. The shifts were much easier as there would only be 15-20 working on site, but the nights made it hard for my social/active life.

I play baseball/hockey/pool, all during the weeknights or Fri/Sat nights. I had to request to get back on days once July hit as I was missing out on so much.

The shifts were from 7pm-530am Mon-Fri, but I had to travel up the TCH close to an hour to and from.

 

[Canadian Time]

The shifts were from 7pm-530am Mon-Fri, but I had to travel up the TCH close to an hour to and from.

We tried that shift for awhile but changed it for the reasons you describe. We split the night shift into 2 with one crew working Sun-Tues, the other Wed-Fri, all shifts are 3 X 12.5 hours per week. Folks loved having 4 days off a week.

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

Your take about 100% nights is interesting to me. I managed a couple of groups that worked nights, 3 X 12.5 hour shifts per week. I always tried to treat the night guys like gold because I figured they were giving up a lot.

Occasionally I would have to replace one that moved on to another job or left, I was always terrified I wouldn't find a replacement. I would spend a long time talking a 9-5er into just trying it for awhile as it would be a big favour to me. 100% of the time the guy would end up staying on nights full-time because they adjusted their lives and learned to love it.

Nights can be hard on folks, but my experience is that people with the right attitude thrive with it. But managers must be willing to do what they can to accommodate them.

Honestly nights are far better at my work. People are better workers and complain less... maybe it's all the treats people bring in or the take out we often get. But even though nights can mess with me... I love them. Sadly my bf doesn't love when I work then so I work less than I used to.

The flipping around does mess with you and can be a hindrance to your social life. I did research on it for my masters... that was a BAD idea.

 

[Caeldan]

Honestly nights are far better at my work. People are better workers and complain less... maybe it's all the treats people bring in or the take out we often get. But even though nights can mess with me... I love them. Sadly my bf doesn't love when I work then so I work less than I used to.

The flipping around does mess with you and can be a hindrance to your social life. I did research on it for my masters... that was a BAD idea.

Regret getting a masters?

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

Regret getting a masters?

Haha... well...

But definitely regret doing my research on effects of rotating shifts and nights. I think I'd rather not have known.

 

[stempniaksen]

We tried that shift for awhile but changed it for the reasons you describe. We split the night shift into 2 with one crew working Sun-Tues, the other Wed-Fri, all shifts are 3 X 12.5 hours per week. Folks loved having 4 days off a week.

That's the key to getting people to work nights. My buddy does 4 days a week (10 hour days) and the 3 day weekends are probably the only reason he's still at his current job

When I worked at a call center it was the same idea. The shifts were either Monday-Friday 4-12 or Tuesday-Thursday 6-6 and you wouldn't imagine how many people would actually fight for those nights shifts.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

That's the key to getting people to work nights. My buddy does 4 days a week (10 hour days) and the 3 day weekends are probably the only reason he's still at his current job

When I worked at a call center it was the same idea. The shifts were either Monday-Friday 4-12 or Tuesday-Thursday 6-6 and you wouldn't imagine how many people would actually fight for those nights shifts.

I would imagine you don't have a lot of work to do at a call centre in the middle of the night

 

[BondraTime]

The worst part is being on salary and not getting overtime

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

That's the key to getting people to work nights. My buddy does 4 days a week (10 hour days) and the 3 day weekends are probably the only reason he's still at his current job .

The long weekends, the weekdays off to do errands (this is amazing) the extra pay for working nights, the people (and lack of people at the same time).

After my masters, I thought about getting a different job. But then 5 days a week plus losing amazing self scheduling abilities. It just doesn't seem worth the change fire similar pay and more responsibility.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

There is but she actually GOT the cover because the cat wouldn't cover her poop haha. Do you recommend taking the cover off now that she's in a new place so she knows that the thing is actually a litter box or will she automatically still know?

I would stick to whatever kitty is used to. A lot of cats don't like change...especially concerning the litter box. Poop is serious business.

Cats will overeat, so meals tend to help regulate their weight better.
Also, anecdotally I find that cats who are on meal feedings rather than free fed tend to be more social and friendly

Depends. We've had 5 cats over the years (all using the grazing method of feeding), and only 1 was overweight. The big fella did have a very lazy personality all-around though. And stubby legs. Poor damn thing always struggled to jump up tot the window (even as a skinny kitten). It really is whatever they get used to as kittens. As long as the bowl never gets empty and they knew food will always be there, they tend not to gorge on it.

From what I've seen, males (especially neutured) are very friendly compared to females. But, it also depends on the household, too. If you pay attention to them and give them a lot of cuddles, they really attach themselves to the family. Socializing them to outsiders is a bit of a different story...that depends on frequency of visitors. Cats are a lot like dogs, in that they do adopt a bit of the traits their owners have socially/emotionally.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

That's the key to getting people to work nights. My buddy does 4 days a week (10 hour days) and the 3 day weekends are probably the only reason he's still at his current job

When I worked at a call center it was the same idea. The shifts were either Monday-Friday 4-12 or Tuesday-Thursday 6-6 and you wouldn't imagine how many people would actually fight for those nights shifts.

Seriously. I've been working nights for over 15 years...but it's usually 5 nights per week. It is really difficult, as the first day off on the weekend I typically sleep through most of it. It really feels like I only get one day off per week. And it seriously kills your brain.

Only good things about it - job security. People hate nights and usually don't last very long. Traffic...I was always going opposite the flow of rush hour traffic (which came in really handy the morning my brakes failed halfway home). And a lot of grocery and department stores start opening up right as I get off work...Xmas shopping and grocery shopping is a breeze at 7-8 am.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

My old job I used to work 6p to 6a for two weeks then had to switch 6a to 6p for two weeks and so on and so forth. I despised it and really thought it was killing me. I gained a ton of weight too that I lost once I left that job. I was too tired to do anything but work eat and sleep. I ate junk food too because I was too tired to make healthy stuff. I'll take 9-5 all day every day which is what I have now.

I don't know how nurses do it, their shift hours seem brutal for all the serious stuff they have to do as well. It's not for me I guess. I'll take my university hours haha.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

The worst part is being on salary and not getting overtime

The best part of being on salary, paid vacation and sick leave

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Overwatch is rather rad

 

[Knave]

My old job I used to work 6p to 6a for two weeks then had to switch 6a to 6p for two weeks and so on and so forth. I despised it and really thought it was killing me. I gained a ton of weight too that I lost once I left that job. I was too tired to do anything but work eat and sleep. I ate junk food too because I was too tired to make healthy stuff. I'll take 9-5 all day every day which is what I have now.

I don't know how nurses do it, their shift hours seem brutal for all the serious stuff they have to do as well. It's not for me I guess. I'll take my university hours haha.

Doing something like that long term is bad for your longterm health.

We're talking about much higher rates of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes and poor brain function.

The worst part is as research keeps happening - apparently working nights is just straight up bad for your health. Staying on the night shift, eating healthy, exercising, etc... will not completely cover the gap.

And it's not like people are going to stop having medical emergencies at night. Maybe we need invent Skynet so robots can treat people with medical emergencies at night and nobody needs to work at night.

 

[BondraTime]

The best part of being on salary, paid vacation and sick leave

That is great. I've used 1 sick day when I hurt my wrist on a Sunday evening during hockey, and 4 Vacay days going to Saint John for the weekend. Still have 10 days left, so I need to figure out what I plan to do with them, I am pretty sure I can't bank them into next year.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

The best part of being on salary, paid vacation and sick leave

Sure, if you enjoy having to work from 9 to 5 monday to friday until you are too old to enjoy life.

2-3 weeks off a year doesn't make that any more palatable.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

Sure, if you enjoy having to work from 9 to 5 monday to friday until you are too old to enjoy life.

2-3 weeks off a year doesn't make that any more palatable.

Yup. Just quit my job today. Did a whole year of 9-5 in a cubicle, wanted to blow my brains out

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Doing something like that long term is bad for your longterm health.

We're talking about much higher rates of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes and poor brain function.

The worst part is as research keeps happening - apparently working nights is just straight up bad for your health. Staying on the night shift, eating healthy, exercising, etc... will not completely cover the gap.

And it's not like people are going to stop having medical emergencies at night. Maybe we need invent Skynet so robots can treat people with medical emergencies at night and nobody needs to work at night.

I'd like to see where is that research that says night shift workers are so much more at risk health-wise than their counterparts.

I'll tell you what, having to deal with all those stuck-up "day" people who insist on everyone doing things their way is a lot more stressful, and therefore more harmful to your health, than any other lifestyle.

It's all about listening to your own body. If you are more comfortable doing night shifts, than you'll be less stressed and more healthy. There is no one right way to go about life.

 

[MakeOttawaGreatAgain]

Sure, if you enjoy having to work from 9 to 5 monday to friday until you are too old to enjoy life.

2-3 weeks off a year doesn't make that any more palatable.

Yeah, that's a huge reason why I decided to switch to Nursing, and HIPA is making it even more appealing haha.

4-5 days off every week is amazing. Getting off at 5 sucks most days. Everything is closed, traffic sucks, happy hour is over by the time you get anywhere, and you're tired from work anyways. Go to the gym, make dinner and your night is over anyways.

I rather just have 4 less hours off free time a couple times a week and have a mini vacation each week and be able to actual do things with my life!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Yup. Just quit my job today. Did a whole year of 9-5 in a cubicle, wanted to blow my brains out

I tried that for three years as well and had the same negative results.

Feeling boxed in for half of your waking life is no way to live. Some people like the structure, and all the more power to them, but it's not for everyone. Forcing yourself to adapt to it will only lead to dire consequences. Good on you for listening to what your true self needs.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Yeah, that's a huge reason why I decided to switch to Nursing, and HIPA is making it even more appealing haha.

4-5 days off every week is amazing. Getting off at 5 sucks most days. Everything is closed, traffic sucks, happy hour is over by the time you get anywhere, and you're tired from work anyways. Go to the gym, make dinner and your night is over anyways.

I rather just have 4 less hours off free time a couple times a week and have a mini vacation each week and be able to actual do things with my life!

That's awesome man.

I mean I often do 60 hour work weeks from home but it's still on my own terms and I never feel like I'm "stuck". Yet when I did 40 hours/week at a big company, but had to be there like a drone from 9 to 5(usually until 6), I felt dead inside.

 

[Daffy]

Kathleen Wynne needs to gtfo. This bs about every 2nd car being electrical and heating our homes with electricity. Know how much that will cost? She just spews nonsense on a daily basis. It'll be a good day when she's out.

 

[BondraTime]

Sure, if you enjoy having to work from 9 to 5 monday to friday until you are too old to enjoy life.

2-3 weeks off a year doesn't make that any more palatable.

I do enjoy going to work, not sure I'd continue to do something I didn't want to do.

I've been working Monday-Friday (with odd weekends) since I graduated University.

I've enjoyed life immensely the last 5 years (23-27), all while working 8-12 hour days Monday-Friday. I will continue to enjoy what I'm doing, both in work and leisure.

Not sure how you can't enjoy life with that kind of schedule, I find it very easy to enjoy life. I've gotten the chance to live in different spots (Central NFLD, Saint John, Gatineau), get to play baseball and hockey, got to pickup a side job doing something I love for a year (watching hockey), loads of time for friends, girlfriend, and family, been to New Orleans/Toronto/B.C/London, etc.

More power to you if you are able to work a different, more appealing schedule, but making a Mon-Fri job out to be one that drains all the enjoyable things in life and puts you at a disadvantage is a just a negative spin on things.