OT: Sens Lounge LXXVI | The One Where the RedBlacks won and it was a good day.

[Micklebot]

This new job is so time consuming. I love it.

It's nice when work fills your day; I hate when I'm twiddling my thumbs at work.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

School is 80% useless junk. So much stuff is missed. The government definitely prefers the population to be stupid.

School is about making you smarter and expanding your mind. While I don't think nutrition class and finance class would be a bad idea, that really should be stuff parents are teaching at home. I have no idea why there isn't some kind of mandatory parenting class that teaches this stuff, a fat child is 100% poor decision making by parents.

 

[Caeldan]

It's nice when work fills your day; I hate when I'm twiddling my thumbs at work.

Even worse when you're trying to figure out how to charge 3h of OT a day for a week, and having just barely enough to fill 7.5h. Hurray for quarter ends coinciding with summer slow periods... :|

 

[Benjamin]

School is about making you smarter and expanding your mind. While I don't think nutrition class and finance class would be a bad idea, that really should be stuff parents are teaching at home. I have no idea why there isn't some kind of mandatory parenting class that teaches this stuff, a fat child is 100% poor decision making by parents.

I bet a lot of parents dont even know nutrition and finance. This is the exact stuff that school was made for. Learn something actually useful.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

I bet a lot of parents dont even know nutrition and finance. This is the exact stuff that school was made for. Learn something actually useful.

Well that's my point about the parenting class. There should be some sort of course that new parents have to take to learn these things, it shouldn't have to be on the school.

 

[Benjamin]

Well that's my point about the parenting class. There should be some sort of course that new parents have to take to learn these things, it shouldn't have to be on the school.

Just teach it in school and the parenting class will never be needed. Plus I bet no parent would go.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Just teach it in school and the parenting class will never be needed. Plus I bet no parent would go.

Nutrition is controlled by parents until the kid is in their teens. By that time the kid could be obese. Make a mandatory first time parent class and teach them proper nutrition for children.

 

[McManked]

I was a fat child and it was my fault not my parents.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

One of the big problems with the education system is that it is super traditionalist and conservative. They teach you things you don't really need to learn when you are young like history (This is coming from someone who loves history and studied it for 2/years at Uni before switching majors), instead of teaching AND enforcing healthy lifestyle habits as well as financial planning. Most people get fat in their late teens and early twenties as well as rack up most of their unnecessary debt at that age... I don't think it's coincidence... I think they don't know what the **** they are doing. Instead of learning dates and parts of the Buffalo, teach the kids important things... Then, if there's time, teach them supplementary material.

That's also the time where the major stress kicks in, too.

That's basically how I started to gain weight...seeing all my friends prepping to go off to university (school in the suburbs filled with mostly middle/upper class kids while I was blue collar) while I knew (because of some ****** home dynamics) that further education wasn't an option for me. Feeling inadequate compared to everyone else I was around, and the thought of entering the workforce with no real skills or ability messed me up for several years.

A lot of people are "emotional" eaters. Eating feels good. It tastes good. It's a cure for boredom, and fills a void in peoples' lives.

Eating is oftena symptom, not the problem itself.

Humans will typically choose the path of least resistance, and that means eating conveniently. Eating fast food is cheap and quick - no cooking required - but it is very bad food to consume. I believe that concept also affects our habits. If parents are not making smart choices with food for their offspring then those offspring will develop poor eating habits, and typically the process will repeat itself. Check out the movie Idiocracy sometime.

That is another big one. Eating healthy typically take more time that eating junk. Junk food tastes great, is cheap, is everywhere, and convenient. Healthy food needs to be prepped at home.

Let's face it, we all work longer hours than previous generations. We have kids enrolled in more stuff. Parents are involved in more activities. We have lifestyles at work that are often more "sit down" jobs (thus less calories consumed), and modern lifestyle does require more communication time at a computer instead of standing at the fence talking to the neighbor or walking down the street to see Sally-Mae.

It's simply too easy to whip out frozen diners, or pre-made side dishes, etc and pop them in the oven for the family over making something from scratch.

There's so much more stress and pressure and instant overwhelming information all around us 24/7, that many people are just too physically and emotionally drained after work/school to spend an hour prepping a good meal.

So many factors involved, we really can't point the finger at one single thing.

 

[Baby Ryan]

That is another big one. Eating healthy typically take more time that eating junk. Junk food tastes great, is cheap, is everywhere, and convenient. Healthy food needs to be prepped at home.

Let's face it, we all work longer hours than previous generations. We have kids enrolled in more stuff. Parents are involved in more activities. We have lifestyles at work that are often more "sit down" jobs (thus less calories consumed), and modern lifestyle does require more communication time at a computer instead of standing at the fence talking to the neighbor or walking down the street to see Sally-Mae.

It's simply too easy to whip out frozen diners, or pre-made side dishes, etc and pop them in the oven for the family over making something from scratch.

There's so much more stress and pressure and instant overwhelming information all around us 24/7, that many people are just too physically and emotionally drained after work/school to spend an hour prepping a good meal.

So many factors involved, we really can't point the finger at one single thing.

Just teach it in school and the parenting class will never be needed. Plus I bet no parent would go.

I bet a lot of parents dont even know nutrition and finance. This is the exact stuff that school was made for. Learn something actually useful.

And of course, I learned this all in Food and Nutrition class

Took it in grade 10, was one hell of a boring class (largely due to the teacher), but I definitely walked away with a load of useful life info.

Oh my gerd, my heart is racing so hard, so darn nervous for tomorrow. After tomorrow, I'll be free for the rest of the summer

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

And of course, I learned this all in Food and Nutrition class

Took it in grade 10, was one hell of a boring class (largely due to the teacher), but I definitely walked away with a load of useful life info.

Oh my gerd, my heart is racing so hard, so darn nervous for tomorrow. After tomorrow, I'll be free for the rest of the summer

I definitely didn't have that option for a class in high school. I'm not overweight but health has always been a subject of interest for me.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I took two separate health and nutrition classes and got precisely nothing out of them. And I say this as someone who's always been a good, attentive student with good grades.

 

[Baby Ryan]

I definitely didn't have that option for a class in high school. I'm not overweight but health has always been a subject of interest for me.

Like-wise, I think it was a somewhat recent addition in my school

There was the basic talk about nutrients and vitamins, then it got into obesity and self-starvation for the "ideal" image in society and the effects of parents, social media, TV, Internet, peers, themselves, etc. Talked about food commercials, got into the little details of certain stores (ex. Loblaws) and lastly self-management and assessment. Very interesting, but my teacher kind of ruined by making us learn it all straight from notes :/. Not much of a note learner.

 

[Caeldan]

I took two separate health and nutrition classes and got precisely nothing out of them. And I say this as someone who's always been a good, attentive student with good grades.

My high school... our gym class in the upper years turned into an intro kinesiology course, but still not a whole lot of nutrition.

Most of what I learned came more from my participation in competitive sports and what the speakers they'd bring in for seminars had to say. Then of course pick up more on your own later on.

 

[McManked]

This may not be popular opinion here, but I think most people need to learn things themselves the hard way to truly learn. At least I'm that way.

My mom begged me every day to get healthy but I didn't do anything until I myself got scared of my future.

 

[BondraTime]

This may not be popular opinion here, but I think most people need to learn things themselves the hard way to truly learn. At least I'm that way.

My mom begged me every day to get healthy but I didn't do anything until I myself got scared of my future.

I somewhat agree. I never had any nutrition class or anything like that growing up. I see it differently because I've always been in good shape, and always ate somewhat healthy. Thankfully my family is very active, and my parents urged me to eat well, and do the same.

When I was growing up, I had an N64, and I certainly played it, but It never saw any time in the summer. That was always used out horsing around, soccer, street hockey, baseball, bike, etc. Nowadays kids stay in and play ps4 and the lot, and thus their health gets worse. Add that into the fact that they are eating unhealthy, kids are becoming more obese. It's bad when my friends and I (21-26 years old) are the ones on blades having a game of roadie and no kids are in sight on a beautiful summer day.

 

[Quo]

Love this album.

 

[GK]

Sonic Youth is wicked

 

[BonkTastic]

Anyone know of any free antivirus protection better than Avast?

I'm currently running Avast & Malwarebytes. Anyone more savvy than me know what I could be doing better?

 

[bacon25]

Anyone know of any free antivirus protection better than Avast?

I'm currently running Avast & Malwarebytes. Anyone more savvy than me know what I could be doing better?

Microsoft Essentials is another free antivirus, as well, there is also AVG. I use Microsoft Essentials because it takes up less space. I am not too savy though, best way to steer clear of viruses is to not dive too deep into the ocean that is the internet. There are some Chrome extensions that will let you know how secure and safe an internet site is before you enter it, however I cannot think of the name at the moment.

I should also say that I do not know if these are currently better than what you have already, they are just alternative that you can research and explore. CNET should have some reviews on free online security software.

 

[Micklebot]

Even worse when you're trying to figure out how to charge 3h of OT a day for a week, and having just barely enough to fill 7.5h. Hurray for quarter ends coinciding with summer slow periods... :|

#firstworldproblems

Anyone know of any free antivirus protection better than Avast?

I'm currently running Avast & Malwarebytes. Anyone more savvy than me know what I could be doing better?

I've always used AVG and been happy, but I haven't bothered doing the research/comparisons in about 5 years...

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Anyone know of any free antivirus protection better than Avast?

I'm currently running Avast & Malwarebytes. Anyone more savvy than me know what I could be doing better?

+1 to Microsoft Security Essentials. Free if your copy of Windows is genuine. Still considered one of the best antiviruses out on the market, period. It's lightweight and works quietly. Rarely notice it unless it needs my attention.

If your copy's not genuine, or you're on a Mac, stick with Avast. Still miles better than AVG.

Other utilities I use: MalwareBytes (still the gold standard,) pop-up blocker, a blocker for ads, Spyware Search & Destroy and occasionally WinPatrol (although never in conjunction with MalwareBytes.)

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

This may not be popular opinion here, but I think most people need to learn things themselves the hard way to truly learn. At least I'm that way.

My mom begged me every day to get healthy but I didn't do anything until I myself got scared of my future.

Yep.

When I was about 5, my mom just happened to tell me not to touch the metal on the inside of the freezer with my tongue.

Guess what I did the second she walked out of the kitchen.....

Learning the hard way ensures you'll never make that mistake again.

 

[Mr Invidious]

I think experiencing something first hand will end up being a far more valuable lesson and more impactful in the long run, but I believe that the information should be made known.

Should the same rule apply to other school classes? "Learn how to do calculus on your own". Sure, it'd be more rewarding and you would probably do a better job at retaining the information, but kid's need help. It's just about finding that middle ground.

On another note: I'm pretty far out of my comfort zone and on a big Ed Sheeran kick lately.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Most people aren't qualified to be parents and no matter how much you try to help them they will still not be good parents: I'm all in favour of making the information and training as easily available as possible but I don't expect it to have much impact

Good parents find a way to get the message through