OT: Sens Lounge - Golf season edition

[Micklebot]

Okay, well I'll focus in on one point that is close enough to my field (electrical engineering) that I can comment on it: at about the 1:25 mark he describes the number of years it would take the Tesla battery plant to manufacture enough batteries to power the US (500 years is the claim, no idea whether it's correct or not).

But this is gross distortion, simply because the design of car batteries is so different from the design of batteries that would be used to backup the power grid -- the former has to be a certain (relatively small) size, shape and weight, while the latter is pretty much unconstrained (probably would be small buildings scattered throughout the city).

So the process and economics of manufacturing the two are so different that it makes no sense to compare them.

Really, from that point onwards you should be very skeptical about all the data presented.

Why are they focusing on one plant? I mean, as adoption goes up, you're going to build more plants.

How many years would it take the Winsor assembly plans to build enough cars for everyone in north America? Not really relevant since there are other factories that exist to support demand.

To your point, the tesla plant might be good for batter packs in homes, while central hubs for the grid might be done by other plants, a mix of different technologies based on the need

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Nuclear

SMRs

T H E

F U T U R E

 

[Beech]

Nuclear

SMRs

T H E

F U T U R E

No; dilithium crystals and mater, anti-mater chambers..

Star Trek.. Gene Rodenbery was a genius.

Transporters, dilithium crystals and Yeoman Rand. Do we need more? Okay, throw in

 

[Beech]

I really don’t follow your logic, Beech.

The fact that a person can transition later in life does not negate the reality that their are more obstacles to transition later in life than there are earlier, nor does it negate people develop many of their beliefs earlier in life.

You mentioned religion earlier, that's another variable that likely plays into things, as fewer and fewer people are identifying as religious. As recently as the 90s about 90% of Americans identified as Christian, that's not dropped to about 63% with a huge upswing of "unaffiliated". Not only has the churches stance on LGBTQ issues becomeore progressive, but fewer people are religious as well, that's going to have a big impact taking kids in particular

And again, nature and nurture work together in developing a person's identity, this idea that 40 years of nurture can be washed away because of 20 years of progressively more tolerance just doesn't align with the real world.

a black man is born black. He does not become black. He does not become black as society becomes less bigoted.

The LGBT community has spent the last 100 years of so, arguing that they are Born this way.

So, if born this way; why is the outside world against us and why is the outside world trying to change us. It is on par with trying to whiten a black person.

So, if a person is born gay, they may not admit to it, but they are gay. Social acceptance does not change it.

Now we have moved significantly past social resistance to Homosexuality. So much so, that it is HIP to be gay.. So, the Silent generation and the Baby Boomers should have come out in droves the last 20 years.

They didn't. Their numbers are flat.. 20 years ago, those that associated with LGBT is the same as in 2021. And way less than the Gen X, Y, and Z..

So either 20 % of Silent Gen is still quiet. And almost 17% of Baby Boomers. Or something is wrong. And keep in mind the curve for Gen y and Gen z was still climbing and may in fact extend beyond 10.5% and 20.8%.. they may reach 15% and 30%.

How are we becoming more gay? How are we born gay and cannot help it, all the while these numbers are skyrocketing?

Kennedy is a KOOK so, not chemicals.. meaning the various syndromes you guys are using as defense, also go out the door.. and we have no explanation.
Kennedy not a Kook, chemicals. Syndromes are valid.. but that opens the "We can find a cure!!!!!"

neither of which may be valid.

leaving us with Behavioral/Environmental (not physical but mental). Changing society is transforming youth into people searching for identity, searching for a home, searching for stability, searching for belongingness!!!

So, is homosexuality's a trait you are born with, or is it a home you find sanctuary in?

Are we today, and have we been since 1945, a society who lost its previous structure, and who is fostering insecurity in youth. Fostering a longing for a home (spiritually, physically, mentally, psychologically).. And is transgenderism nothing more than a sub component of that?

And so @Stylizer1 may in fact be correct.. that environment and not true inner desire is driving this.

I was born gay is becoming as valid as "the devil made me do it", or "God called on me to do it",

 

[Flamingo]

a black man is born black. He does not become black. He does not become black as society becomes less bigoted.

The LGBT community has spent the last 100 years of so, arguing that they are Born this way.

So, if born this way; why is the outside world against us and why is the outside world trying to change us. It is on par with trying to whiten a black person.

So, if a person is born gay, they may not admit to it, but they are gay. Social acceptance does not change it.

Now we have moved significantly past social resistance to Homosexuality. So much so, that it is HIP to be gay.. So, the Silent generation and the Baby Boomers should have come out in droves the last 20 years.

They didn't. Their numbers are flat.. 20 years ago, those that associated with LGBT is the same as in 2021. And way less than the Gen X, Y, and Z..

So either 20 % of Silent Gen is still quiet. And almost 17% of Baby Boomers. Or something is wrong. And keep in mind the curve for Gen y and Gen z was still climbing and may in fact extend beyond 10.5% and 20.8%.. they may reach 15% and 30%.

How are we becoming more gay? How are we born gay and cannot help it, all the while these numbers are skyrocketing?

Kennedy is a KOOK so, not chemicals.. meaning the various syndromes you guys are using as defense, also go out the door.. and we have no explanation.
Kennedy not a Kook, chemicals. Syndromes are valid.. but that opens the "We can find a cure!!!!!"

neither of which may be valid.

leaving us with Behavioral/Environmental (not physical but mental). Changing society is transforming youth into people searching for identity, searching for a home, searching for stability, searching for belongingness!!!

So, is homosexuality's a trait you are born with, or is it a home you find sanctuary in?

Are we today, and have we been since 1945, a society who lost its previous structure, and who is fostering insecurity in youth. Fostering a longing for a home (spiritually, physically, mentally, psychologically).. And is transgenderism nothing more than a sub component of that?

And so @Stylizer1 may in fact be correct.. that environment and not true inner desire is driving this.

I was born gay is becoming as valid as "the devil made me do it", or "God called on me to do it",

“It’s hip to be gay” …. I don’t think it’s easy to be gay, as much as it’s become less stigmatic.

I think the people who come out as gay later in life, even after having been in a heterosexual couple and even having kids are either awakening to their nascent sexuality, or they are bisexual (remember, I believe it’s a spectrum) and realized they are more comfortable with a gay partner than a heterosexual partner.

Stories of gay people struggling with their homosexuality into young adulthood are still typical. They don’t have a reference point, so they take a while to recognize their feelings as an indicator of their sexuality. (I’m not gay, I am inferring from testaments of gay friends.)

 

[Ice-Tray]

'God given' use to be a concept understood by anyone with a sense of free will and self agency. 'Muse' yourself into your own arbitrary shackles - don't tread on me.

Perhaps, though it seems to me that you only possess free will as far as you’re able to defend it yourself; good luck with that.

‘God’ will not help no matter how one rationalizes the concept.

The reality is that we’re at the whims of what the majority group around us is willing to put up with and defend, which is different depending where you are located on the planet at any given time. There is no sense of agency and free will that is inherent, these things have all been fought for and defended where they exists.

Failure to understand that is how folks often end up protesting themselves into prison, or death.

 

[Micklebot]

a black man is born black. He does not become black. He does not become black as society becomes less bigoted.

The LGBT community has spent the last 100 years of so, arguing that they are Born this way.

So, if born this way; why is the outside world against us and why is the outside world trying to change us. It is on par with trying to whiten a black person.

So, if a person is born gay, they may not admit to it, but they are gay. Social acceptance does not change it.

Now we have moved significantly past social resistance to Homosexuality. So much so, that it is HIP to be gay.. So, the Silent generation and the Baby Boomers should have come out in droves the last 20 years.

They didn't. Their numbers are flat.. 20 years ago, those that associated with LGBT is the same as in 2021. And way less than the Gen X, Y, and Z..

So either 20 % of Silent Gen is still quiet. And almost 17% of Baby Boomers. Or something is wrong. And keep in mind the curve for Gen y and Gen z was still climbing and may in fact extend beyond 10.5% and 20.8%.. they may reach 15% and 30%.

How are we becoming more gay? How are we born gay and cannot help it, all the while these numbers are skyrocketing?

Kennedy is a KOOK so, not chemicals.. meaning the various syndromes you guys are using as defense, also go out the door.. and we have no explanation.
Kennedy not a Kook, chemicals. Syndromes are valid.. but that opens the "We can find a cure!!!!!"

neither of which may be valid.

leaving us with Behavioral/Environmental (not physical but mental). Changing society is transforming youth into people searching for identity, searching for a home, searching for stability, searching for belongingness!!!

So, is homosexuality's a trait you are born with, or is it a home you find sanctuary in?

Are we today, and have we been since 1945, a society who lost its previous structure, and who is fostering insecurity in youth. Fostering a longing for a home (spiritually, physically, mentally, psychologically).. And is transgenderism nothing more than a sub component of that?

And so @Stylizer1 may in fact be correct.. that environment and not true inner desire is driving this.

I was born gay is becoming as valid as "the devil made me do it", or "God called on me to do it",

Wall of text built of a pile of false assumptions.

Nothing is so black and white as you seem to be making it out,

We certainly haven't moved past stigmatism surround homosexuality, there are still a lot of bigots out there, hip to be gay? Come on now. We've certainly improved from 20 years ago but that's some serious hyperbole right there.

As for the born one way or another, again, human personality and by extention sense of self identity is a mix of nature and nurture, you can be born with a prevalence towards being hot tempered, and nurture a disposing towards being calm. The end result is after 20+ years of nurture that person doesn't show a tendency towards being hot tempered. Were they born that way, no, quite the opposite but their development pushed them away from that. Will they suddenly become a hot head if being one becomes socially acceptable, probably not, they have years of learned behaviour that doesn't just disappear.

 

[Qward]

Do you think unlimited clean energy or replicators will have the bigger impact on humanity?

 

[Micklebot]

Do you think unlimited clean energy or replicators will have the bigger impact on humanity?

Replicators sound like they'd be energy hogs, so I think without unlimited clean energy you'd cause a lot of problems having replicators.

 

[Stylizer1]

“It’s hip to be gay” …. I don’t think it’s easy to be gay, as much as it’s become less stigmatic.

I think the people who come out as gay later in life, even after having been in a heterosexual couple and even having kids are either awakening to their nascent sexuality, or they are bisexual (remember, I believe it’s a spectrum) and realized they are more comfortable with a gay partner than a heterosexual partner.

Stories of gay people struggling with their homosexuality into young adulthood are still typical. They don’t have a reference point, so they take a while to recognize their feelings as an indicator of their sexuality. (I’m not gay, I am inferring from testaments of gay friends.)

Or they choose to have a gay relationship because in the end they are in search of love and find it with the same sex.

 

[Qward]

Replicators sound like they'd be energy hogs, so I think without unlimited clean energy you'd cause a lot of problems having replicators.

But it would eliminate hunger and material desire.

 

[Micklebot]

But it would eliminate hunger and material desire.

Well not if only the rich can afford its power consumption.

 

[Stylizer1]

Covid lockdowns coming back to Canada September/October?

 

[2CHAINZ]

Covid lockdowns coming back to Canada September/October?

There will never be another covid lockdown

 

[Qward]

Covid lockdowns coming back to Canada September/October?

just end me already.

 

[Stylizer1]

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Do you think unlimited clean energy or replicators will have the bigger impact on humanity?

Depends what comes with it. Unlimited energy also means bigger homes, vehicles, and play structures and who knows what else. Replicators means a whole lot of people will be living like kings. But what does that do to the planet?

And my Trek lore is a bit rusty, but iirc, the replicators take energy from elsewhere in the universe/galaxy to create their stuff they make. So in a way, it's robbing Peter to pay Paul. You have to wonder about the long term implications of pulling matter/energy (whatever it is) away from one place to go overflow in another.

All this stuff sounds great in concept, but there's always a big downside we don't see.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Do you think unlimited clean energy or replicators will have the bigger impact on humanity?

Batteries are a waste of resources.

Small reactors

Don’t believe me?

Watch Back to the Future

 

[maclean]

Nuclear

SMRs

T H E

F U T U R E

that anything like asmr?

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Perhaps, though it seems to me that you only possess free will as far as you’re able to defend it yourself; good luck with that.

‘God’ will not help no matter how one rationalizes the concept.

The reality is that we’re at the whims of what the majority group around us is willing to put up with and defend, which is different depending where you are located on the planet at any given time. There is no sense of agency and free will that is inherent, these things have all been fought for and defended where they exists.

Failure to understand that is how folks often end up protesting themselves into prison, or death.

Covid lockdowns coming back to Canada September/October?

There will never be another covid lockdown

just end me already.

Majority speaks as majority follows. Do yourself a favor and put your ear to the ground and listen to the footsteps.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Perhaps, though it seems to me that you only possess free will as far as you’re able to defend it yourself; good luck with that.

The concept of 'free will' goes much deeper than "Do what I want when I want to." It's a battle against the 'self' - taming our baser instincts as well as the outside forces (influences) which surround us. "No man is free who cannot command himself" - Pythagoras. When you learn to find truth within, 'defending' yourself becomes second nature.

‘God’ will not help no matter how one rationalizes the concept.

Look within. Stop reducing the 'concept' to a symbolic 'man in the sky' and take agency. It is what it is.

The reality is that we’re at the whims of what the majority group around us is willing to put up with and defend, which is different depending where you are located on the planet at any given time. There is no sense of agency and free will that is inherent, these things have all been fought for and defended where they exists.

This is true but it is also truth of our 'base' nature. We exist both as monke and as man. Beat the stick on the rock long enough and you may craft a spear.

Where things go from there, who knows?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

that anything like asmr?

Exactly….

 

[Qward]

Love it when you talk to your manager and explained that something cannot be done and they need to tell the other department only for your manager to tell the other department that you will find a way...

 

[Stylizer1]

Love it when you talk to your manager and explained that something cannot be done and they need to tell the other department only for your manager to tell the other department that you will find a way...

He believes in you.

 

[Qward]

He believes in you.

She.

Sexist.