Prospect Info: Senators Prospect Talk 2014-2015 Part I
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BondraTime
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It changes that media types will have a much different perspective on who is likely on the team from before camp to the start of camp?
Won't impact what I was thinking, whether it's right or wrong.
BondraTime
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Many guys like Foligno, Adam, Pearson, Perry, etc. are not thought of before camp, but immediately change the minds of the media. If the evaluation camp had 10 less skaters, those guys don't even get the chance to prove them wrong. A smaller camp has a huge impact on that, regardless.
BK201
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If you go to a function or thing with small sandwiches egg salad is always the first to be eaten.
I'm not talking about the guys that "walk on" with a strong camp.
I'm talking about the small group of non-high profile players that are already serious candidates to make the team before the media knows about it.
Mark stone didn't come
Out of nowhere a few years ago with a convincing camp. He started camp in a priority position playing on lines with locks because he got on the radar with a strong summer camp and carried it forward with his first half season.
The scribes for the most part didn't know this until December. My point is the media types don't have adequate knowledge to make good roster predictions until they get to the eval camp and are talking to HC daily.
Referring more to Paul here. I have no idea if he's a guy who's probably gonna make it...but typically when HC singles you out after summer camp it's because you're on the radar. I imagine his start hast hurt him. Sens raved about his NHL camp as well.
If he's on a top 6 line on day 1 at camp, all of a sudden the media is mentioning him. It's not because of what he did at day 1 of camp. It's because the media finally gets access to people in the know.
BondraTime
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Paul fits in more with those guys than guys like Stone.
You're not expecting Paul to be in that position are you?
Stone was one of the top 5 players in the CHL. Paul, while having a great start, is MAYBE a top 10 forward in the OHL. He is certainly not in a position like Stone.
I draw the parallel based on being singled out by HC after summer camp and having a strong start.
Aside from that, I'll have fun with this..
I think it's much easier to say stone was a top 5 player in the chl now based on what he's done since the start of that WJC than it would have been to in November of that year.
Paul may be a top 10 OHLer to you right now because he hasn't had a stud WJC appearance, a full high end year in the CHL and a steady rise to the NHLer as a budding scorer yet.
Obviously there's no suggestion here that that is going to happen. Just important to realize stone being a top 5 chlers was not a popular opinion at all in November of that year.
To reiterate my point, Paul is probably on the radar as is usually the case with players singled out after summer camp.
BondraTime
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Paul does have the edge of being known as a strong defensive forward well being 4th in goal scoring in the ohl atm
You have to be a pretty crazed follower of all 60 some
Chl teams to have any clue who the best players are at any given time. And as we see in the highly visible NHL of just 30 teams some people can't even agree jon toews is a top 10 player.
I do know if Paul has a great next 3-4 years you'll probably have an easier time
Looking bak on his last year of junior as if he was better than you thought he was at the time - based mostly on what he's done since.
All for conversations sake really, doesn't have much to do with my point
Chl teams to have any clue who the best players are at any given time. And as we see in the highly visible NHL of just 30 teams some people can't even agree jon toews is a top 10 player.
I do know if Paul has a great next 3-4 years you'll probably have an easier time
Looking bak on his last year of junior as if he was better than you thought he was at the time - based mostly on what he's done since.
All for conversations sake really, doesn't have much to do with my point
By the way, I have no idea if Paul should be there. Just know players that get praise out or summer camp often get themselves in the thick
Of thing.
BondraTime
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I think it was easy to say because he was 2nd in the CHL at the time of the December camp with 47 points in 21 games.
What does that have to do with anything? I don't see any argument here other than "wait and see".
Paul is certainly on the Radar.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Paul is 6'3, plays gritty, 2 forward positions, is one of the best defensive players in the O, steps up when needed and is developing a very good scoring drive.
At worst he'd be an excellent 4th liner for Canada. I unno how he wouldn't make it since he's the poster boy for the type of players team Canada has selected in last 3-4 years.
At worst he'd be an excellent 4th liner for Canada. I unno how he wouldn't make it since he's the poster boy for the type of players team Canada has selected in last 3-4 years.
I hope Paul makes the WJC because it would make the tournament more interesting for me, personally. I'm going to write to HC and request it, will keep you all posted.
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Can you tell them I would also be more interested if Paul makes it.
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Quentin Shore scored a hat trick last night. He's off to a pretty hot start so far 10 points in 9 games.
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Well I did say that anything can happen with selections.. So I was aware of that.
Most have guys well ahead of both of them. If you look at Canada's D, I'd have to agree that Harpur is probably on the outside looking in if everyone is healthy. With Paul on the other hand I have a bit more optimism he can sneak in.
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