Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

[Golden_Jet]

Who said this? I specifically referred to the proponents involved in this debate. By proponents, I am only talking about the 2 posters involved in this debate.

You quoted this

Except it isn’t quite as clear given that some folks were assuming that this language meant that the outgoing owner selects the new group which is then presented to the BOG for approval.

I didn't see that, and I've read through all these different posts and have been following the thread & its proponents.

So I just showed you 2 examples probably others.

You said
didn’t see that, been following the thread & it’s proponents.

Obviously you didn’t follow all the proponents, saying It’s proponents is different than 2 proponents.
Should have read the whole thread.

 

[UglyPuckling]

You quoted this

I didn't see that, and I've read through all these different posts and have been following the thread & its proponents.

So I just showed you 2 examples probably others.

You said
didn’t see that, been following the thread & it’s proponents.

Obviously you didn’t follow all the proponents, saying It’s proponents is different than 2 proponents.
Should have read the whole thread.

That is correct. The answer is simple and logical. There are 2 proponents in this specific ongoing debate: I-T & Diatonic. When I said "I didn't see that", it was those 2 specific proponents that I was (and have been) referring to.

You even apologized to one of them in your #1801 post which was a reply to post #1799. You might recall that. I called it a case of mistaken identity in #2198. Like I said already, I've followed the thread since February.

 

[Golden_Jet]

That is correct. The answer is simple and logical. There are 2 proponents in this specific ongoing debate: I-T & Diatonic. When I said "I didn't see that", it was those 2 specific proponents that I was (and have been) referring to.

Like I said you didn’t follow enough of thread, there are more than 2 , you seem to be hung up on that.
But if you want to claim you’re right about 2, but not acknowledge others said that fine.

Even though you started it by replying to someone that said , some folks.

Some folk’s , doesn’t narrow down to 2 posters. We’re done , seems you’re being obtuse now.

 

[Ice-Tray]

No, again you are wrong. I have read the entire thread and all the posts and understand the discussion points. I tend to lurk more than I post.

I stated that in the first sentence of the post that you replied to. It seems like you are not reading all that has been written.

I'm going to jump out of this discussion as I can now see where its going & how pointless it will become.


I read all of the posts from February onward paying special attention to the proponents involved. You even apologized to one the posters involved, a case of mistaken identity. You may remember this.


That's your interpretation of what I said and you playing with words.

This is going nowhere.

To me it looks like you’ve had a tough time following a discussion from a while back, and then added some difficulty in conveying the ideas you apparently are trying to share. That’s fine, it happens.

There was nowhere for you to go when you first posted on the subject today, and the subsequent posts have been more of a futile waste of time.

I said goodbye to this topic ages ago, and yet you and the other dude decided to dredge it up again with nothing more to add.

Surprise, surpsrise, the subject is a zombie!

 

[UglyPuckling]

To me it looks like you’ve had a tough time following a discussion from a while back, and then added some difficulty in conveying the ideas you apparently are trying to share. That’s fine, it happens.

There was nowhere for you to go when you first posted on the subject today, and the subsequent posts have been more of a futile waste of time.

I said goodbye to this topic ages ago, and yet you and the other dude decided to dredge it up again with nothing more to add.

Surprise, surpsrise, the subject is a zombie!

Your great at making stuff up, but I agree that additional conversation would be futile. Cheers.

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[JeffP]

Where's the hype talk about Snoop? I can find a bunch of nothing single-quote Internet articles but I need some unnecessary speculation from the fanbase!

 

[coladin]

Get rid of the NCC. Ottawa should bellong to Ottawa not these dumb shits.

Sparks Street is under their control. it is dead and empty. Reconfigure it and put the arena there. Transit is there. Parking garages are everywhere. Existing resturant/ bar establishments already exist there. Heritage , decrepit buildings? How many do we really need?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Where's the hype talk about Snoop? I can find a bunch of nothing single-quote Internet articles but I need some unnecessary speculation from the fanbase!

I don’t know, when I googled it, there was a full page of articles.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Where's the hype talk about Snoop? I can find a bunch of nothing single-quote Internet articles but I need some unnecessary speculation from the fanbase!

The entire "Neko Sparks bid" is highly suspect.

The only person reporting about it is Mendes. None of these supposed "big-money backers" have said anything publicly or shown up in Ottawa. And the guy who's the "face" of the bid runs a tiny, no-name video production company out of a small strip mall-looking office complex in LA. Based on his insta, seems like an average joe who makes low-budget videos via Upwork (you can currently hire him for $65/hour) and knows no one.

I don't believe there's anything there beyond a guy trying to get some publicity, and for whatever reason, Mendes is running with it.

Very odd.

 

[Senscore]

Where's the hype talk about Snoop? I can find a bunch of nothing single-quote Internet articles but I need some unnecessary speculation from the fanbase!

It's two weeks before the deadline and suddenly his name pops out of the woodwork.

I don't think he's very serious at all.

 

[Micklebot]

The entire "Neko Sparks bid" is highly suspect.

The only person reporting about it is Mendes. None of these supposed "big-money backers" have said anything publicly or shown up in Ottawa. And the guy who's the "face" of the bid runs a tiny, no-name video production company out of a small strip mall-looking office complex in LA. Based on his insta, seems like an average joe who makes low-budget videos via Upwork (you can currently hire him for $65/hour) and knows no one.

I don't believe there's anything there beyond a guy trying to get some publicity, and for whatever reason, Mendes is running with it.

Very odd.

So, if his situation were as suspicious as you suggest, why hasn't the NHL's due diligence filtered him out yet? Surely they have a process that extends beyond using the Google machine...

 

[DaveMatthew]

So, if his situation were as suspicious as you suggest, why hasn't the NHL's due diligence filtered him out yet? Surely they have a process that extends beyond using the Google machine...

Well we don't actually know who the NHL has and hasn't filtered out yet, do we? All we have are some muddled reports from Garrioch, Mendes and a couple of Sens-focused podcasts.

I don't recall Bettman or the league ever mentioning this group by name. Do you? They have commented on Remington/Reynolds and Andlauer though. So we can assume those are legit. This is the closest I could find:

"Having diverse ownership is always a good thing," Bettman told CTV News Ottawa last Monday as he came to the city to meet with officials. "The question's going to be what is the strongest group? What group has the resources and the ability to execute to make this team even more successful than it's been? We're welcoming the exploration that's going on and if they're the successful bidders, great! But… we haven't gone deep enough yet to pass judgment on any of the groups."

I just don't see how any of it passes the smell test. This guy is a no-name. There is nothing out there associating him with any reputable companies/power players/billion-dollar or even million-dollar deals. You'd think there'd be something. An article. A press release. A photo from a charity function. Anything. It's 2023.

All of the reports are coming from one source. It's really bizarre.

 

[Micklebot]

Well we don't actually know who the NHL has and hasn't filtered out yet, do we? All we have are some muddled reports from Garrioch, Mendes and a couple of Sens-focused podcasts.

I don't recall Bettman or the league ever mentioning this group by name. Do you? They have commented on Remington/Reynolds and Andlauer though.

Ok, so you think they're already filtered out, was never a bidder, something else? I'm trying to decipher what you're getting at, as of now it seems a bit like a conspiracy theory, the bid doesn't exist, he's just feeding Mendes false info but the Rock, the Weekend, Snoop dog, and the NHL are just all what, siting by and letting him profit off falsely associating himself with their names?

 

[DaveMatthew]

Ok, so you think they're already filtered out, was never a bidder, something else? I'm trying to decipher what you're getting at, as of now it seems a bit like a conspiracy theory, the bid doesn't exist, he's just feeding Mendes false info but the Rock, the Weekend, Snoop dog, and the NHL are just all what, siting by and letting him profit off falsely associating himself with their names?

Kind of... yes? I don't think Bettman or the league really cares who's getting their name out there in the local media. They only care about legit bids, and they'll hold those cards close to the vest.

Ryan Reynolds has been out in the open. He's come to games. We know who his financial partners are.

I'll buy it if I hear from Dwayne Johnson, or the Weeknd, or Snoop Dogg. Until then? Or someone with actual money. Until then? Seems super, super fishy.

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Social media is not everything, I know, but this man is not a power player in Hollywood.

 

[Relapsing]

Get rid of the NCC. Ottawa should bellong to Ottawa not these dumb shits.

Sparks Street is under their control. it is dead and empty. Reconfigure it and put the arena there. Transit is there. Parking garages are everywhere. Existing resturant/ bar establishments already exist there. Heritage , decrepit buildings? How many do we really need?

I usually tend to agree with your comments, but yeesh.

Ottawa needs to embrace what it has for heritage buildings, not demolish them in lieu of the almighty God's of sports and entertainment.

I'm not gonna sit here and defend the current state of sparks st, we all know it has its challenges and issues, but holy hell, what a bad idea this is.

We literally have a large swath of empty land in the middle of the City. Why on earth would we demolish some of the most beautiful architecture in the city instead? A lot of which is owned and actively used by the Fed... Why not complicate this even more?!

Your idea is akin to demolishing part of lower town, or that one idiots idea on reddit to raze majors Hill park and build the rink there.

 

[Micklebot]

Kind of... yes? I don't think Bettman or the league really cares who's getting their name out there in the local media. They only care about legit bids, and they'll hold those cards close to the vest.

Ryan Reynolds has been out in the open. He's come to games. We know who his financial partners are.

I'll buy it if I hear from Dwayne Johnson, or the Weeknd, or Snoop Dogg. Until then? Or someone with actual money. Until then? Seems super, super fishy.

NHL not commenting because they have a policy to not comment makes sense. My issue is all the associated names not balking about being connected to a bid, I can seem them being hush on it if they are associated, but if the rock has nothing to do with a bid, I imagine he'd have confirmed as much at this point, I'm sure someone has reached out for comment by this point. On the flip side, not commenting if you are involved makes sense as there's potentially an NDA associated with the process

 

[DaveMatthew]

NHL not commenting because they have a policy to not comment makes sense. My issue is all the associated names not balking about being connected to a bid, I can seem them being hush on it if they are associated, but if the rock has nothing to do with a bid, I imagine he'd have confirmed as much at this point, I'm sure someone has reached out for comment by this point. On the flip side, not commenting if you are involved makes sense as there's potentially an NDA associated with the process

The Rock (and celebrities of his ilk) is associated with all sorts of rumours. I'd imagine being mentioned by Ian Mendes and Sens Twitter isn't something that he'd come out and "refute".

I may be wrong, but there's nothing out there about Neko Sparks, as a business person, that makes him seem credible as a potential NHL owner. Nothing. And there's been no one of note who's come out, on the record, and backed him. Until that happens I'm skeptical.

We have a strong sense of who's involved and where the money is coming from in the other groups. This one? Nothing.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The Rock (and celebrities of his ilk) is associated with all sorts of rumours. I'd imagine being mentioned by Ian Mendes and Sens Twitter isn't something that he'd come out and "refute".

I may be wrong, but there's nothing out there about Neko Sparks, as a business person, that makes him seem credible as a potential NHL owner. Nothing. And there's been no one of note who's come out, on the record, and backed him. Until that happens I'm skeptical.

We have a strong sense of who's involved and where the money is coming from in the other groups. This one? Nothing.

Other than having the most money of any group backing them.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Other than having the most money of any group backing them.

Who are the backers? Nobody knows. Nobody has said. All Sparks has said is.

"We are well-positioned and we are well-backed," he said. "A nice mix of Canadian money, U.K. money and American money."

Why aren't these backers making on-the-record comments like other groups? Why did they pick a guy running a small-time video editing company to be the face of their group, who has no published business accomplishments or established reputation?

3 years ago, he was trying to raise money for a low-budget movie on Kickstarter via his social media. The project raised $184.

But now he's assembled a billion dollar group to buy an NHL team?

Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems awfully bizarre.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

It's a tale of two bids right now, TBQH. Reynolds and Remington seem happy to lay all their cards on the table for all to see; Sparks and Co. seem to be doing the exact opposite.

That's not to say the Sparks bid is all smoke, but it's worrying that we've heard nothing of the big players supposedly involved. Sens fans want stability, and the Sparks bid is giving no hints to satisfy that desire.

Other than having the most money of any group backing them.

Who's the money coming from?

 

[Micklebot]

The Rock (and celebrities of his ilk) is associated with all sorts of rumours. I'd imagine being mentioned by Ian Mendes and Sens Twitter isn't something that he'd come out and "refute".

I may be wrong, but there's nothing out there about Neko Sparks, as a business person, that makes him seem credible as a potential NHL owner. Nothing. And there's been no one of note who's come out, on the record, and backed him. Until that happens I'm skeptical.

We have a strong sense of who's involved and where the money is coming from in the other groups. This one? Nothing.

They have representatives to handle questions like this and even for a celeb as big as the Rock, being associated with the purchase of an NHL team for 1 billion dollars is a pretty significant thing.

Like I said, I find it unlikely that nobody has reached out for comment to any of these guy's representation and gotten an answer, whether confirming or denying. I know that's the first step I'd take if I were in media, whether it's sports or entertainment media.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Who are the backers? Nobody knows. Nobody has said. All Sparks has said is.



Why aren't these backers making on-the-record comments like other groups? Why did they pick a guy running a small-time video editing company to be the face of their group, who has no published business accomplishments or established reputation?

Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems awfully bizarre.

The money is with the UK part of the group.

 

[Micklebot]

Apparently Snoop has confirmed on instagram

Rapper Snoop Dogg says he’s joining bid to buy NHL’s Ottawa Senators

Ryan Reynolds has previously been attached to a potential bid from real estate developers Remington Group to purchase the team

www.hannaherald.com

Haven't gone on insta to verify myself though

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[Neil Patrick Harris]

The money is with the UK part of the group.

Which means nothing beyond conjecture. It could come from the Moon for all I care; people want to know *who* this money is coming from - not where.

Nebulousness gives rise to speculation, and most of what we've got from the Sparks group thus far is nebulousness.

 

[DaveMatthew]

They have representatives to handle questions like this and even for a celeb as big as the Rock, being associated with the purchase of an NHL team for 1 billion dollars is a pretty significant thing.

Like I said, I find it unlikely that nobody has reached out for comment to any of these guy's representation and gotten an answer, whether confirming or denying. I know that's the first step I'd take if I were in media, whether it's sports or entertainment media.

Has the Rock confirmed that he's part of the group? Why not if he is? That whole report seemed to go nowhere after it came from Wallace, and Neko Sparks hasn't ever mentioned his name publicly.

Snoop Dogg did repost the report on his Insta, so that is a confirmation at least.