Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

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jbeck5

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Let down for sure. Cant replace the opportunity he was bringing with a WtW type show.

Couldn't anyone with money make a documentary or show about the sens? I don't care who hosts or directs or produces.

Like, if it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of if Reynolds is involved or not. It's either a good idea for a series or it's not.
 
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What kind of qualifications and track record does Staios have? Being a former NHLer doesn't automatically make a person management material at the NHL level.
He was one hell of a GM in the OHL for the Hamilton Bulldogs. Won an OHL championship, made some very astute trades to do so.

There are certainly worse options…
 
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SpezDispenser

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Regarding RR, why does everyone say missed opportunity for the NHL as if the NHL caused them to back away? His group was trying to circumvent the process and get an exclusive negotiating window. If he didn’t join the process to walk away at the last moment then maybe they shouldn’t have…?

I’m incredibly disappointed as well that he’s not part of this and he’s seemingly closed the door. But let’s stop pretending it wasn’t in their control either, he and Remington could have still submitted a bid
That's right. He backed the wrong horse. Still...such a bloody shame

He also seems like nice guy who's very approachable


For sure he's a guy that we'll appreciate being owner. Passionate, but not crazy like Melnyk and apparently doesn't meddle with management, although that's pretty hard to find out.

Approachable, as you said, but doesn't need the spotlight. Ticks a lot of the boxes
 

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Couldn't anyone with money make a documentary or show about the sens? I don't care who hosts or directs or produces.

Like, if it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of if Reynolds is involved or not. It's either a good idea for a series or it's not.
You should, as some are successful, and some are disasters.

A good idea doesn’t make for a good documentary.

The Cleopatra Documentary released last week sounds like a good idea. Unfortunately, the director, hosts, and producers brought on to see it through made the worst reviewed show in History with their choices.
 

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Couldn't anyone with money make a documentary or show about the sens? I don't care who hosts or directs or produces.

Like, if it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of if Reynolds is involved or not. It's either a good idea for a series or it's not.
Surely, Hollywood celeb is part of the story, no? Now we have 'guy buys team and might stay in Kanata, who knows" The mind reels with the options.

Now, seeing the casual meet and greet in a pub with fans per WtW would have been fun. Substitute the angry Welsh fan who wanted to bad mouth everyone with Brian5or6, and you have some local colour.
 

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I don’t know anything about any of these potential owners. But looks like this Andlauer guy is alright. He’s put in the time and paid his dues moving up in the ranks.

From measly multimillionaire to certified just-over a billionaire, he’s really shown his mettle. Gone from owning an ohl team on the mean shores of Lake Ontario - buying some yellow shirts n towels for all the plebs to show on National Television Programming- all the way to partial owner of a shit-tier nhl team. Hey, this guy is alright.

It’s time for him to get a shot at lording his cash over a bonafide big league team like Ottowa, I hope he brings Mike Spezza in too.
 

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Couldn't anyone with money make a documentary or show about the sens? I don't care who hosts or directs or produces.

Like, if it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of if Reynolds is involved or not. It's either a good idea for a series or it's not.
Of course, but it requires the motivation and desire to do it and the right people. We all know how much content turns out to be crap. For all we know, the new owner may not be interested and won't allow it. With Reynolds it was all but guaranteed from the sound of it. It was also based on the idea of building downtown and following that process, which we don't know if that's in the new owners plans. There's certainly no interesting show without that process.

There's also the quality factor. I am not a soccer fan at all, so I've never actually seen WtW, but by word of mouth it is apparently really well done. We could end up with some bland bs like some of the "behind the scenes" shows the NHL had put together.
 
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nope, pr is a business. Every corporation uses it. NHL owners and the NHL only care about getting the most money for their franchises.
That's not PR. That's conspiracy nonsense.

Remington was a serious bid. However, their main focus was the arena. Without assurances on the process for the arena, there was too much risk involved. Businesses don't like risk. Reynolds was also clearly serious, since he had previous experience buying a team.

Sparks was a PR stunt, but not on the Melnyks' behalf. They were looking to legitimize whatever crypto snake oil they were selling by trying to look like serious business people.
 

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Couldn't anyone with money make a documentary or show about the sens? I don't care who hosts or directs or produces.

Like, if it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of if Reynolds is involved or not. It's either a good idea for a series or it's not.

Didn't the Sens already have a series (or whatever) like this?
Habs had 24CH, which was a TV series that lasted a few years with multiple episodes, in English (and probably in French too).
 

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That's not PR. That's conspiracy nonsense.

Remington was a serious bid. However, their main focus was the arena. Without assurances on the process for the arena, there was too much risk involved. Businesses don't like risk. Reynolds was also clearly serious, since he had previous experience buying a team.

Sparks was a PR stunt, but not on the Melnyks' behalf. They were looking to legitimize whatever crypto snake oil they were selling by trying to look like serious business people.
The Bratty family (Remington) are “serious” bidders, it’s just that they pulled the same shit in 2012 when they pulled out last second from buying the Coyotes because they didn’t like the development deal, and it upset the league. There’s a reason why Gary was “caught off-guard” when Reynolds chose Remington.
 

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Of course, but it requires the motivation and desire to do it and the right people. We all know how much content turns out to be crap. For all we know, the new owner may not be interested and won't allow it. With Reynolds it was all but guaranteed from the sound of it. It was also based on the idea of building downtown and following that process, which we don't know if that's in the new owners plans. There's certainly no interesting show without that process.

There's also the quality factor. I am not a soccer fan at all, so I've never actually seen WtW, but by word of mouth it is apparently really well done. We could end up with some bland bs like some of the "behind the scenes" shows the NHL had put together.
it's worth watching IMO. It really about the town and telling their story with the team serving as the metaphor.

I read that the RR concept was "Ottawa Vs. The World". You can imagine the concept from there. Small market team playing in the birthplace of the Stanley Cup; Won the cup before there was an 'original six'; sandwiched between two original six behemoths; Don't know how true that is, but it makes some sense.
 

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The Bratty family (Remington) are “serious” bidders, it’s just that they pulled the same shit in 2012 when they pulled out last second from buying the Coyotes because they didn’t like the development deal, and it upset the league. There’s a reason why Gary was “caught off-guard” when Reynolds chose Remington.
Either way, the Melnyks' did not put them up to the task.
 

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That's not PR. That's conspiracy nonsense.

Remington was a serious bid. However, their main focus was the arena. Without assurances on the process for the arena, there was too much risk involved. Businesses don't like risk. Reynolds was also clearly serious, since he had previous experience buying a team.

Sparks was a PR stunt, but not on the Melnyks' behalf. They were looking to legitimize whatever crypto snake oil they were selling by trying to look like serious business people.
They use bad PR to try and take down Presidents of the US, they sure as hell can do the same in inflating the perceived value of a NHL franchise.

RR has experience buying a team that is worth 2.5 million dollars.

Like it or not the majority of the News surrounding the Sens over the last 4 months has been nothing more than an exercise in

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Either way, the Melnyks' did not put them up to the task.
They didn't have to. I don't think the Melnyk's are doing all that much to be honest.
 

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why is it only Remington that dropped out? The way the reynolds story comes off, it seems like there was frustration with the process…perhaps they knew they had the highest bid (garrioch has been quoted as mentioning they were willing to go as high as $1B) and maybe were led to believe they had some inside track when they didn’t…? It’s puzzling but no one who decides not to submit a bid should be this frustrated closing the door like Reynolds is unless something else happened behind the scenes

 
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why is it only Remington that dropped out? The way the reynolds story comes off, it seems like there was frustration with the process…perhaps they knew they had the highest bid (garrioch has been quoted as mentioning they were willing to go as high as $1B) and maybe were led to believe they had some inside track when they didn’t…? It’s puzzling but no one who decides not to submit a bid should be this frustrated closing the door like Reynolds is unless something else happened behind the scenes
It’s not puzzling at all. They were in it solely because of Lebreton and they couldn’t get assurance. It’s the second time they’ve done it.

The other bidders want the team as well.
 

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I mentioned this in another thread but why only Remington pulled out of submitting a bid? It’s another thing to not like the terms of the deal but the quotes given to garrioch just come off petty and frustrated when everyone else dealt with the exact same parameters.



Will be interesting to see if final sale price comes in at $1B or much less….that might give us a hint on why Remington/reynolds were so pissed if they clearly had the highest bid
 

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The Bratty family (Remington) are “serious” bidders, it’s just that they pulled the same shit in 2012 when they pulled out last second from buying the Coyotes because they didn’t like the development deal, and it upset the league. There’s a reason why Gary was “caught off-guard” when Reynolds chose Remington.
In all fairness they are probably damn stoked they didn’t buy the Coyotes. What a shot show that franchise is right now!
 

SensHulk

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It’s not puzzling at all. They were in it solely because of Lebreton and they couldn’t get assurance. It’s the second time they’ve done it.

The other bidders want the team as well.
Well reynolds seemingly wanted the team and it wasn’t just about lebreton or the site for him…seems out of scope for the bidding process if that’s what this was (then why such bitterness from the reynolds camp)
 

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Well reynolds seemingly wanted the team and it wasn’t just about lebreton or the site for him…seems out of scope for the bidding process if that’s what this was (then why such bitterness from the reynolds camp)
Reynolds was going to be a minority owner in reality. Remington would fork over the money and Reynolds would make the decisions. If Remington is out the whole group is done. He’s not going to get that with any other group.
 
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I think the reason RR jumped on the Remington group so early because it was clear they are not interested in the hockey side at all, just the real estate. I bet they were going to let RR join with a minority share but give him full authority to do what he wants on the hockey side. It would be tough to find that type of agreement with any of the other groups.
 
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