GDT: Semifinals - May 21 - Canada vs USA

[Booster*]

Modano? Chelios? Give me a break, i never bought into that hipster attitude of viewing the old-time stars as gods, with hockey evolving each year the new generations are better than the old. Kane is BY FAR the all-time best American player.

 

[Scotty B]

Modano? Chelios? Give me a break, i never bought into that hipster attitude of viewing the old-time stars as gods, with hockey evolving each year the new generations are better than the old. Kane is BY FAR the all-time best American player.

Yeah yeah newer is always better, that's why Jagr led team Czech in Prague last year, and Selanne led team Suomi in Sochi...

 

[JackSlater]

Modano? Chelios? Give me a break, i never bought into that hipster attitude of viewing the old-time stars as gods, with hockey evolving each year the new generations are better than the old. Kane is BY FAR the all-time best American player.

Definitely, I doubt that most of us on this website were even alive to see Chelios or Modano play back in the old times.

 

[Scotty B]

Definitely, I doubt that most of us on this website were even alive to see Chelios or Modano play back in the old times.

wooden skates, wasn't it?

 

[jj cale]

I think that this Canadian team beats this American team at least 8 times out of 10, so probably Canada will win. My guess, given the inexperience of many of the Canadian players, is a close game until the final ten minutes... maybe a 4-2 result.

I am thinking about a 4-2 result also.

There is something missing this team.

 

[jj cale]

Definitely, I doubt that most of us on this website were even alive to see Chelios or Modano play back in the old times.

Kane is there but geez.................Chelios has to be be there.

This is not a 22 year old picnic.

 

[Frank Booth]

In the US, the game will be televised on the regional Comcast Sportsnets, and streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra. The Preakness prep races start at 2:30. NBCSN is contracted to show that, and pays a lot of money for the rights. The IIHF WC is small potatoes. Just like it is to most US NHL'ers.
https://twitter.com/usahockey/status/733714733090648066

 

[Dr Despair]

Please USA. Either come and meet us in the finals or at least make them tired.

 

[moon*]

Should be an easy win for Canada. That US team is brutal on paper and has been brutal on the ice as well.

Canada wins 7-0 if Pickard is in net, 7-3 if Talbot starts.

 

[al secord]

The REAL Miracle on Ice. Americans take this one, i'm afraid.

 

[JTD]

Should be an easy win for Canada. That US team is brutal on paper and has been brutal on the ice as well.

Canada wins 7-0 if Pickard is in net, 7-3 if Talbot starts.

Glad to see you're not exaggerating or anything. Finland could only muster 3 goals on this "brutal" US team and this team is one win away from a medal.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Chef and Stone will have this one wrapped up in the 1 period again, like the last game.

 

[moon*]

Glad to see you're not exaggerating or anything. Finland could only muster 3 goals on this "brutal" US team and this team is one win away from a medal.

How is it exaggerating?

Canada won 5-1 a week ago and missed on about 8-10 good chances. It looked like Canada was on a permanent PP that whole game.

And this one win away from a medal team lost to powerhouse Germany and Slovakia.

Congrats on the fluke win against the 2nd worst team (after the US) in the QF's who played about as bad as they could and it still took a SO to win.

There isn't single guy on the US team that would have made the Canadian team and this is a D rate (at best) Canadian team.

 

[Pyromaniac]

How is it exaggerating?

Canada won 5-1 a week ago and missed on about 8-10 good chances. It looked like Canada was on a permanent PP that whole game.

And this one win away from a medal team lost to powerhouse Germany and Slovakia.

Congrats on the fluke win against the 2nd worst team (after the US) in the QF's who played about as bad as they could and it still took a SO to win.

There isn't single guy on the US team that would have made the Canadian team and this is a D rate (at best) Canadian team.

So the 2nd worst team in the QF never lost in regulation and finished top of their group...

Canada are the overwhelming favourites but you are dismissing everything the US has achieved this far. I don't think another upset is out of the realm of possibilities so I would tone down the arrogance.

 

[JTD]

How is it exaggerating?

Canada won 5-1 a week ago and missed on about 8-10 good chances. It looked like Canada was on a permanent PP that whole game.

And this one win away from a medal team lost to powerhouse Germany and Slovakia.

Congrats on the fluke win against the 2nd worst team (after the US) in the QF's who played about as bad as they could and it still took a SO to win.

There isn't single guy on the US team that would have made the Canadian team and this is a D rate (at best) Canadian team.

For long stretches in the second period the US was outplaying Canada significantly. Must be one weird power play where half of a period you're in defensive mode. Why did Canada not dominate the shot total if they were so dominant the entire game? Larkin would have made the Canada team and who said the US had the better roster? Everyone knew the US had a much worse roster filled with inexperienced kids. Doesn't make it brutal. Nice try tho. If the Czech Republic was the "2nd worst team" to make the QF, why did they take care of the Swedes and Russians like they did? Why did they win the group? You're gonna argue that Germany, Denmark, Sweden were even as good let alone better than them? US dominated Germany, some weak goaltending from the US and good goaltending from Germany made that possible. This ain't Canada's D team either. 25% of Canada's top 36 players in points in the NHL this season are on this roster. Sorry, a team with McDavid, Hall, Marchand, Duchene, Perry, O'Reilly and Stone on it and some solid young defensemen on it is not a D team.

 

[moon*]

So the 2nd worst team in the QF never lost in regulation and finished top of their group...

Yes

Canada are the overwhelming favourites but you are dismissing everything the US has achieved this far. I don't think another upset is out of the realm of possibilities so I would tone down the arrogance.

I am not dismissing anything the US haven't accomplished anything impressive. They have beat bad teams, been easily handled by good teams and lost to 2 other bad teams.

Sure anything can happen in one game, especially in this tournament where the players are giving about 50% effort, but everything we have seen so far says this should be an easy blowout win for the Canadians.

It isn't arrogance that leads me to that view but just facts based on the talent level of each team and what they have shown up to this point.

 

[moon*]

For long stretches in the second period the US was outplaying Canada significantly. Must be one weird power play where half of a period you're in defensive mode. Why did Canada not dominate the shot total if they were so dominant the entire game?

The US didn't come close to outplaying Canada at any point in the game. Not really a odd PP since they weren't in defensive mode at any point in the game.

They didn't dominate the shot total because they missed the net on a ton of easy chances. Part of the reason the score was only 5-1 when it easily could have been 10=1.

Larkin would have made the Canada team and who said the US had the better roster? Everyone knew the US had a much worse roster filled with inexperienced kids. Doesn't make it brutal. Nice try tho.

Larkin would not make the Canadian team.

If the Czech Republic was the "2nd worst team" to make the QF, why did they take care of the Swedes and Russians like they did? Why did they win the group? You're gonna argue that Germany, Denmark, Sweden were even as good let alone better than them?

Probably because Russia was missing a ton of guys that they have now and the Swedes didn't give a crap in that game they played.

And yes all those teams mentioned are better than Czech.

US dominated Germany, some weak goaltending from the US and good goaltending from Germany made that possible.

This ain't Canada's D team either. 25% of Canada's top 36 players in points in the NHL this season are on this roster. Sorry, a team with McDavid, Hall, Marchand, Duchene, Perry, O'Reilly and Stone on it and some solid young defensemen on it is not a D team.

Perry is the only guy that has a chance of making the WC team. Marchand, Stone and O'Reilly aren't anything more than alright. Duchene and McDavid are good players I will give you that.

The defense doesn't have a single top 10 Canadian defensemen on it and likely nobody in the top 20. Reilly and Murray might get there in a few years but not yet. The other guys are nothing special at all or downright bad player (Hutton, Tanev).

The goaltending is terrible. They might make Canada 10 or 11 if all goalies were available.

 

[JTD]

The US didn't come close to outplaying Canada at any point in the game. Not really a odd PP since they weren't in defensive mode at any point in the game.

They didn't dominate the shot total because they missed the net on a ton of easy chances. Part of the reason the score was only 5-1 when it easily could have been 10=1.



Larkin would not make the Canadian team.



Probably because Russia was missing a ton of guys that they have now and the Swedes didn't give a crap in that game they played.

And yes all those teams mentioned are better than Czech.







Perry is the only guy that has a chance of making the WC team. Marchand, Stone and O'Reilly aren't anything more than alright. Duchene and McDavid are good players I will give you that.

The defense doesn't have a single top 10 Canadian defensemen on it and likely nobody in the top 20. Reilly and Murray might get there in a few years but not yet. The other guys are nothing special at all or downright bad player (Hutton, Tanev).

The goaltending is terrible. They might make Canada 10 or 11 if all goalies were available.

Stone, Marchand and O'Reilly are not anything more than alright? Do you read your comments before you send them? 2 at the very least will be on Canada's World Cup team. Marchand and Stone are awesome players. Marchand scored 37 goals during the season. Not too many "alright" guys doing that.

As for Sweden not giving a crap, you could say the same about the game against Canada but that doesn't fit your weird argument. You can't say Sweden was better when there's literally zero evidence of that being true. And Canada scored 5 goals thanks to a few softies allowed by Kinkaid. If anything, it could have a very tight game score wise but only Canada missed the net or had good chances, of course.

 

[moon*]

Stone, Marchand and O'Reilly are not anything more than alright? Do you read your comments before you send them? 2 at the very least will be on Canada's World Cup team. Marchand and Stone are awesome players. Marchand scored 37 goals during the season. Not too many "alright" guys doing that.

As for Sweden not giving a crap, you could say the same about the game against Canada but that doesn't fit your weird argument. You can't say Sweden was better when there's literally zero evidence of that being true. And Canada scored 5 goals thanks to a few softies allowed by Kinkaid. If anything, it could have a very tight game score wise but only Canada missed the net or had good chances, of course.

What weird argument?

And no I don't think Canada had some great impressive victory against Sweden. But I would say in general teams do play harder in a play-off game than a round robin game.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Glad to be playing for a medal especially with having a "relegation team" for the US.

 

[Mestaruus]

Easy win for Canada sadly . I wish USA had sent a better team to this tournament.

 

[Super Cake]

Stone, Marchand and O'Reilly are not anything more than alright? Do you read your comments before you send them? 2 at the very least will be on Canada's World Cup team. Marchand and Stone are awesome players. Marchand scored 37 goals during the season. Not too many "alright" guys doing that.

As for Sweden not giving a crap, you could say the same about the game against Canada but that doesn't fit your weird argument. You can't say Sweden was better when there's literally zero evidence of that being true. And Canada scored 5 goals thanks to a few softies allowed by Kinkaid. If anything, it could have a very tight game score wise but only Canada missed the net or had good chances, of course.

Saying that Stone, Marchand and O'Reilly are not anything more than alright just reeks of someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Marchand who scored 37 goals this season is nothing more than alright.
Stone who reached the 60 point marker in back to back seasons and is great a stealing the puck is nothing more than alright.
O'Reilly had a great season too, but apparently he is nothing more than alright as well.

You just got to love hf boards.

 

[moon*]

Saying that Stone, Marchand and O'Reilly are not anything more than alright just reeks of someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Whats wrong with being alright?

They certainly aren't stars. They aren't guys that should be on or even close to being on the WC team. They are fine players but if Canada was putting together a real team they would not be on it.

 

[ecemleafs]

4-1 Canada

 

[Super Cake]

This game will go to a shootout.