Proposal: Sedins to the Montreal Canadiens so they can win the Cup

[Beukeboom Fan]

How does the Sedins go from best players on Team Sweden to absolute garbage on the Canucks? Because they're cycling in the offensive zone with Larsen and Sbisa in the backend or Edler. That's not going to work.

On this Canadiens team they're a lock for 75+

Sedin - Sedin - Gallagher
Emelin - Weber "C"

AFAIK only the Sedins have a modified NTC but they'll obviously waive it to win the cup with Team BC.

To Vancouver:
Desharnais 3.5M
Pacioretty 4.5M
Plekanec 6M
14M + 2.4M capspace
Mikhail Sergachev

To Montreal:
Henrik Sedin 7M
Daniel Sedin 7M
Markus Granlund 0.900K (better than Desharnais)
14.9M

This move will allow Vancouver to rebuild as they trade all 3 acquired Habs players for minor roster player and major futures at the TDL. I have less interest in seeing Pacioretty, and Desharnais on a rebuilding team.

Again this is a pipe dream as the Canucks ownership, GM and coach refuse to rebuild and we'll never truly be tanking with the Sedins playing.

The pipe dream is in your player valuation. On what planet does adding the Sedin's significantly upgrade the Habs if Patches & Plekanec are going the other way?

More realistic deal would be Desharnais & significant futures for Sedins with salary retention of the Canucks would seriously consider rebuilding (and the Sedin's would waive their NMC's.)

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

To acquire Sedins at 50% off, I would offer:

Plekanec (to balance cap - and he's a great shutdown C),
Carr
Juulsen
1st 2017

Let's face it, Plekanec/Sedins will only be good for the next few years. Juulsen has big potential (watch his games, you'll know what I'm talking about) - only reason I would part with him is because we have Sergachev who's also RD (on top of having Weber/Petry). Carr can be a good 2nd/great 3rd LW (I personally see him being picked by Vegas should he be one of the exposed). 1st 2017 could be a late pick, sure, but many great players come from late 1st picks. In 2-3 years time, Vancouver wins the trade by getting younger good/great players: and let's be honest, Vancouver does need a rebuild.

The only thing I wouldn't like from trading those away for the Sedins is the fact we'll find it difficult against competitive teams, since we need a shutdown-C (Mitchell would be our last one). But to think of this offensive lineup for this year, going into the playoffs (and probably Sedins' last chance) is salivating:

Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Sedin - Sedin - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Desharnais - Shaw
Danault - Mitchell - Byron

 

[HuGo Sham]

To acquire Sedins at 50% off, I would offer:

Plekanec (to balance cap - and he's a great shutdown C),
Carr
Juulsen
1st 2017

Let's face it, Plekanec/Sedins will only be good for the next few years. Juulsen has big potential (watch his games, you'll know what I'm talking about) - only reason I would part with him is because we have Sergachev who's also RD (on top of having Weber/Petry). Carr can be a good 2nd/great 3rd LW (I personally see him being picked by Vegas should he be one of the exposed). 1st 2017 could be a late pick, sure, but many great players come from late 1st picks. In 2-3 years time, Vancouver wins the trade by getting younger good/great players: and let's be honest, Vancouver does need a rebuild.

The only thing I wouldn't like from trading those away for the Sedins is the fact we'll find it difficult against competitive teams, since we need a shutdown-C (Mitchell would be our last one). But to think of this offensive lineup for this year, going into the playoffs (and probably Sedins' last chance) is salivating:

Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Sedin - Sedin - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Desharnais - Shaw
Danault - Mitchell - Byron

no ****ing way is bergevin including a potential stud dman and a 1st AND carr. and plekanec is the throw in? for what? maybe 2 years of the sedins. maybe..
get real

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

no ****ing way is bergevin including a potential stud dman and a 1st AND carr. and plekanec is the throw in? for what? maybe 2 years of the sedins. maybe..
get real

It's what the Canucks would accept, to be honest. They're getting rid of 2 of their best players, and regardless of their age they'll ask a hefty return (add to that Benning is a little delusional - he thinks his team could still contend, lol). Montreal, on the other hand, could seriously contend with the Sedins in 2nd/3rd pairing. Then again, I wouldn't really go for the Sedins in the first place. It's what I would offer in order to get them (a serious offer that could be accepted, not a fan one that we can all dream about). I would personally love it if we could get the Sedins 50% off for Plekanec and a good prospect (Juulsen is a top prospect). But odds are Vancouver won't bite.

 

[Benstheman]

Quite frankly, i wouldn't dislike getting the Sedins.

And i would love Edler.

So what is being proposed is sedins at 50 %.

So 3,5M$ + 3,5M$ + 5M$ = 12 M$

To make it works, the same amount of salary would have to go back and ideally for next year also.

So Plekanec and Emelin would have to go.

My proposition would be :

Sedins and Edler
for
Plekanec, Emelin, 2017 1st, Scherbak and Hudon/Lernout

 

[biturbo19]

Quite frankly, i wouldn't dislike getting the Sedins.

And i would love Edler.

So what is being proposed is sedins at 50 %.

So 3,5M$ + 3,5M$ + 5M$ = 12 M$

To make it works, the same amount of salary would have to go back and ideally for next year also.

So Plekanec and Emelin would have to go.

My proposition would be :

Sedins and Edler
for
Plekanec, Emelin, 2017 1st, Scherbak and Hudon/Lernout

In some ways, it might make sense to tack Edler on there as part of a deal. But that doesn't mean you can just tack Edler on without adding any of the additional value a player like that should command in trade.

 

[Stjonnypopo]

I would trade away Pacioretty and + for the Sedins, but not Sergachev.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Giving up Pleky, Patches and Sarge for 36 yr old twins? That doesn't even start a conversation.

 

[dirk41]

To Vancouver:
Desharnais 3.5M
Pacioretty 4.5M
Plekanec 6M
14M + 2.4M capspace
Mikhail Sergachev

To Montreal:
Henrik Sedin 7M
Daniel Sedin 7M
Markus Granlund 0.900K (better than Desharnais)
14.9M

Value wise Pacioretty > Daniel Sedin. They have similar on ice value right now, but Patches is ten years younger and makes $2.5 million less.

Is 1.8 years of a declining Henrik Sedin worth Plekanec and 7+ years of Mikhail Sergachev? Yes, Sedin is a upgrade on Plekanec, but you can put Plekanec in a defensive role, but you'd have to give Henrik Sedin a lot of offensive zone starts that are being given to Galchenyuk. Trading away Mikhail Sergachev could haunt Montreal for a decade plus.

Are the Sedins a big enough upgrade (if at all) over Pacioretty and Plekanec right now to lose the long-term value of both Pacioretty and Segachev? Nope.