Proposal: Sedins to the Montreal Canadiens so they can win the Cup

[Ainec]

How does the Sedins go from best players on Team Sweden to absolute garbage on the Canucks? Because they're cycling in the offensive zone with Larsen and Sbisa in the backend or Edler. That's not going to work.

On this Canadiens team they're a lock for 75+

Sedin - Sedin - Gallagher
Emelin - Weber "C"

AFAIK only the Sedins have a modified NTC but they'll obviously waive it to win the cup with Team BC.

To Vancouver:
Desharnais 3.5M
Pacioretty 4.5M
Plekanec 6M
14M + 2.4M capspace
Mikhail Sergachev

To Montreal:
Henrik Sedin 7M
Daniel Sedin 7M
Markus Granlund 0.900K (better than Desharnais)
14.9M

This move will allow Vancouver to rebuild as they trade all 3 acquired Habs players for minor roster player and major futures at the TDL. I have less interest in seeing Pacioretty, and Desharnais on a rebuilding team.

Again this is a pipe dream as the Canucks ownership, GM and coach refuse to rebuild and we'll never truly be tanking with the Sedins playing.

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[TorontoTrades]

Patches and Sergachyov are immediate no's when it comes to the 36 year old Sedins

 

[Legend123]

lol we are NOT trading away our future top pairing Dman and our best prospect by a long shot for the Sedins. They are already 36 years old. Habs likely dont trade Patches as well.
You can give them DD for free though.
IF the canucks are out by the deadline, the Sedins wont be too expensive. A package of picks and prospects would do.
Contending teams dont trade away thier core at the deadlines. They add to it. Substituting patches and Pleks for the twins is a terrible move.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Lmao lock this immediately. Disgraceful proposal

 

[Ainec]

lol we are NOT trading away our future top pairing Dman and our best prospect by a long shot for the Sedins. They are already 36 years old. Habs likely dont trade Patches as well.
You can give them DD for free though.
IF the canucks are out by the deadline, the Sedins wont be too expensive. A package of picks and prospects would do.
Contending teams dont trade away thier core at the deadlines. They add to it. Substituting patches and Pleks for the twins is a terrible move.

yeah obviously Montreal management declines. They have a C on Pacioretty and A on Plekanec.

I think without the Radulov signing the Habs will have trouble generating offense to win series

 

[clunk]

Add Edler going back, somehow balance the cap and take out Pacioretty for a 1st.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

If Vancouver did make the twins available Montreal would be dumb not to consider it. Unless you're one of those strange fans who cares more about staring at your roster and prospects like it was porn rather than winning the Stanley Cup. The Habs with Price in net and the Sedins as a 2nd line become true Cup contenders.

So yes you do give up Sergachev in a deal, that's the jewel the Canucks need from any trade for the Sedins. Henrik and Daniel said last year they realize they might be traded and are ok with it. Montreal being in Canada where they and their families have spent the past 18 years and a European style city I bet if you gave the twins their choice of teams to go to Montreal would be near the top of the list.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Patches and Sergachyov are immediate no's when it comes to the 36 year old Sedins

For the Sedins, no he isn't. Contrary to HF's belief, it's been proven repeatedly older players still carry high value, provided they are still good players. They would make Montreal a juggernaut despite their guarantee, especially with them not having to be nearly as reliable upon for offense as they are in Vancouver. Including Pacioretty, on the other hand, is just plain silly. The whole point of a trade like this would be for Montreal to basically take two swings at the cup with a disgustingly good roster. If a trade like this happened, Vancouver would likely want Sergachyov and another good prospect (Scherbak, for example). And in exchange, hold salary on the Sedins while taking back someone like Desharnais as well. From a Habs perspective, I would utterly adore the following:

Daniel - Henrik - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Lehkonen - Plekanec - Shaw
Mitchell - Danault - Byron

Yes, the price would be steep, but that top six is utterly ridiculous. You have four 30+ goal scorers and the best center depth in the league without question.

 

[The Great Weal]

Horrible for Montreal.
Although a top 6 of:
Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Sedin-Sedin-Radulov

would be unfair

 

[Ainec]

where is 4.5M in capspace going to come from if not for moving patches?

Vancouver should prefer a 1st and 2nd over him as well

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

where is 4.5M in capspace going to come from if not for moving patches?

Vancouver should prefer a 1st and 2nd over him as well

If Vancouver holds 50% on both Sedins and takes back Desharnais, Montreal only needs to clear a little under a million. Which they can figure out on their own easily. Basically, part of the deal is Vancouver eating a ton of salary to get a better package while Montreal pays high to turn themselves into a juggernaut. A nice caveat is the Sedins' contract expires right when Price's does. Therefore, neither would hurt them going forward.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I don't like the proposal. Patches would be wasted in Vancouver where they should be rebuilding. And I don't think Montreal would give up that much.

I think Sergachev+cap dump(DD) for the Sedins(some cap retention?) could be something.

I know Montreal fans wouldn't like giving up Sergachev, but it would be a move to go all in for this season, and possibly next. Which judging by the Weber trade is something Bergevin is wanting. And I don't think Montreal needs to shed that much cap with how the cap rules work, cap hits decrease or whatever as the season goes on.

And for Vancouver, they commit to rebuilding. Sergachev would be in the NHL ASAP with the Canucks. With Juolevi and Sergachev they'd have a really good defense moving forward. A Sergachev-Tanev, Juolevi-Gubranson top 4 would be really nice. And with Hutton and Trymakin their defense would be set. And if they ended up drafting Nolan their rebuild could be a quick one.

 

[DS7]

Sedins (7 mil retained) for Sergachev?

Or a 1st + Scherbak/McCarron

We'll also take Deharnais as a salary dump

 

[Qwijibo]

there is no polite way to critique this proposal. It's beyond bad for Montreal. Only a drooling idiot would make this trade from Montreals point of view

 

[Ainec]

I don't like the proposal. Patches would be wasted in Vancouver where they should be rebuilding. And I don't think Montreal would give up that much.

I think Sergachev+cap dump(DD) for the Sedins(some cap retention?) could be something.

I know Montreal fans wouldn't like giving up Sergachev, but it would be a move to go all in for this season, and possibly next. Which judging by the Weber trade is something Bergevin is wanting. And I don't think Montreal needs to shed that much cap with how the cap rules work, cap hits decrease or whatever as the season goes on.

And for Vancouver, they commit to rebuilding. Sergachev would be in the NHL ASAP with the Canucks. With Juolevi and Sergachev they'd have a really good defense moving forward. A Sergachev-Tanev, Juolevi-Gubranson top 4 would be really nice. And with Hutton and Trymakin their defense would be set. And if they ended up drafting Nolan their rebuild could be a quick one.

Pacioretty would be flipped at the TDL for futures and a warm body but if Montreal really wants to stack that forward lineup and give up futures then that would be even better

 

[Hackett]

Montreal's top priority is someone to play with weber. Right now, its emelin, but he's a bit out of his element. Markov's ice time needs to be managed at this stage of his career, and Beaulieu still has a long ways to go if he wants to get there.

Then, we can perhaps talk about a top 2 C

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Since this is a Canuck topic, how about:

Wilson/Jarnkrok + one of Fabbro or Fiala and a 1st round pick for both Sedins retained? Mind you we have to be contending for a playoff spot by December before we pull this off.

 

[BatVader]

Just the thought of those 2 in a Habs jersey makes me sick to my stomach.
No thanks.

 

[BBKers]

Montreal was going to win the cup 2016 last October as well, no? Redux incoming

 

[Flamesjustwin]

The Sedins don't want to move and have NMC. /Thread.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Usually a contender needs a minor tweak or a single player add at the deadline, I think this is too much of a shakeup, value aside.

 

[HuGo Sham]

How does the Sedins go from best players on Team Sweden to absolute garbage on the Canucks? Because they're cycling in the offensive zone with Larsen and Sbisa in the backend or Edler. That's not going to work.

On this Canadiens team they're a lock for 75+

Sedin - Sedin - Gallagher
Emelin - Weber "C"

AFAIK only the Sedins have a modified NTC but they'll obviously waive it to win the cup with Team BC.

To Vancouver:
Desharnais 3.5M
Pacioretty 4.5M
Plekanec 6M
14M + 2.4M capspace
Mikhail Sergachev

To Montreal:
Henrik Sedin 7M
Daniel Sedin 7M
Markus Granlund 0.900K (better than Desharnais)
14.9M

This move will allow Vancouver to rebuild as they trade all 3 acquired Habs players for minor roster player and major futures at the TDL. I have less interest in seeing Pacioretty, and Desharnais on a rebuilding team.

Again this is a pipe dream as the Canucks ownership, GM and coach refuse to rebuild and we'll never truly be tanking with the Sedins playing.

lolz leafs (or canucks) fan with shameful destroy montreal's future trade proposal.
you're fired

 

[HuGo Sham]

Sedins (7 mil retained) for Sergachev?

Or a 1st + Scherbak/McCarron

We'll also take Deharnais as a salary dump

nope

 

[PSGJ]

lolz leafs (or canucks) fan with shameful destroy montreal's future trade proposal.
you're fired

Destroying Montreal's future with a trade? That just makes him more qualified to be Montreal GM!

 

[HuGo Sham]

Destroying Montreal's future with a trade? That just makes him more qualified to be Montreal GM!

what future has bergevin destroyed? the 3 year and 9 month difference in age between weber and subban?

replacing 27 year old eller with 25 year old shaw?

i'm not a huge fan of bergevin but he's notorious in keeping picks and players.

knowledge is your friend. inform yourself a bit about habs before posting