Value of: Sean Monahan this summer

[McJedi]

Crazy that the first time I hear of Monahan having a substance abuse issue it's from an Oilers fan on HFBoards.

I propose Monahan to Ottawa for a 3rd in the off-season

Flames 3rd won’t be enough to move this bad contract. And I could care less about the Oilers or Flames. I don’t have any dogs in this fight.

But hockey isn’t the biggest community and it’s known that Monahan has issues with substance abuse. He’s not even out of his prime but he has significantly regressed as a player. This is one of the reasons why.

 

[zar]

Monahan is garbage … add a pick to him and retain 50%.

Monahan (@50%) + 3rd

for

7th rounder

Florida might do that deal with the recent trade history with the Flames.

I have a use for many Flames players… Monahan is not one of them.

 

[kanucks25]

Similar to the Schmidt deals, probably just a mid pick if no salary is coming back.

 

[Volica]

Like a 3rd/4th

Could see a team like Arizona doing it, and then trying to flip him at the TDL.

10 team no trade, 3500 person stadium Arizona will be on there unfortunately.

Ottawa makes sense. Lots of cap, guy has history in the city, Ottawa has a surplus of picks. Would do it for one of the third rounders they have, whichever one is worst.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

No one is giving anything up for monahan at 6M. And if you're not taking cap back you probably have to add a sweetener. How many teams do you think have that much cap space? And why would they use it on a player that isn't worth that much?

Maybe because they don't have many assets they can actually trade? Boston comes to mind, they don't have any top 6 caliber centers under contract next year

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Why would any team gamble on an overpaid rental that’s been declining for a few years and has substance abuse noise around him? I’ll tell you why. Because Calgary attaches picks to Monahans negative value contract.

flames need the cap space more than the 2023 draft picks they’ll trade away to free up the cap space.

You are a known troll on this site that hates the Flames so a baseless statement like this makes total sense from you

 

[seafoam]

Monahan for Cizikas.

Straight up.

 

[Jozay]

10 team no trade, 3500 person stadium Arizona will be on there unfortunately.

Ottawa makes sense. Lots of cap, guy has history in the city, Ottawa has a surplus of picks. Would do it for one of the third rounders they have, whichever one is worst.

Ah yeah, that NTC will block that.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Maybe because they don't have many assets they can actually trade? Boston comes to mind, they don't have any top 6 caliber centers under contract next year

And rather than sign an FA like Hertl, Giroux, one of the Stromes, Kadri, or McCann, they would prefer to pay Monahan 6.3M? I guess it's conceivable that a team gets desperate enough to take a flyer on him. But with how tight teams are to the cap, it's tough to see.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

At 6.4M he's got negative value.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

And rather than sign an FA like Hertl, Giroux, one of the Stromes, Kadri, or McCann, they would prefer to pay Monahan 6.3M? I guess it's conceivable that a team gets desperate enough to take a flyer on him. But with how tight teams are to the cap, it's tough to see.

Dylan Strome and McCann are not hitting the market, they are RFA's and will very likely be qualified. Giroux is primarily a winger that can take faceoffs. That leaves Ryan Strome and Hertl. Strome might get less than 6.3M but Hertl definitely wont

 

[super6646]

Flames 3rd won’t be enough to move this bad contract. And I could care less about the Oilers or Flames. I don’t have any dogs in this fight.

But hockey isn’t the biggest community and it’s known that Monahan has issues with substance abuse. He’s not even out of his prime but he has significantly regressed as a player. This is one of the reasons why.

You can't just make baseless claims w/o providing some evidence on this one. It seems to most Flames fans that injuries have done him in.

At 6.4M he's got negative value.

Agreed. I mean hey I thought Stepan had negative value too and he was moved, but I can't see a team waiting to acquire a player with 9 ESPs in 52 games.

 

[DFF]

Monahan is garbage … add a pick to him and retain 50%.

Monahan (@50%) + 3rd

for

7th rounder

Florida might do that deal with the recent trade history with the Flames.

I have a use for many Flames players… Monahan is not one of them.

Like Lucic?

 

[DFF]

Flames 3rd won’t be enough to move this bad contract. And I could care less about the Oilers or Flames. I don’t have any dogs in this fight.

But hockey isn’t the biggest community and it’s known that Monahan has issues with substance abuse. He’s not even out of his prime but he has significantly regressed as a player. This is one of the reasons why.

Link or you are a liar

 

[DFF]

Until 2019-2020, Monahan's career pace was at 0.77 points per game. Since then, he has been hampered by injuries and has played at 0.57 PPG pace. To be fair, this season he has played in a largely bottom 6 role for Calgary but still gets PP1 time. He has one year left at 6.375M after this year and a 10 team NTC.

It's pretty clear to me that the Flames are ready to move on from Monahan this summer, what is his value with one year left on his contract? Keep in mind Calgary does not have a history of retaining salary on expiring deals, so it is unlikely that will occur if Monahan is moved.

He lost the pP1 time to Toffoli . I doubt if he is going to score much now

Monahan is simply untradable unless for another overpaid underperformed player

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

He lost the pP1 time to Toffoli . I doubt if he is going to score much now

Monahan is simply untradable unless for another overpaid underperformed player

And the PP has taken off since then.

 

[super6646]

And the PP has taken off since then.

It wasn't like Monahan was totally useless on that first unit, but it was obvious he was the worst player on it. Mangiapane could've taken his spot from day 1.

Tbh Tofolli hasn't really done much at ES, but can't really blame him with the linemates he has. He has been deadly on the PP so far though.

 

[Double Dion]

The poster stating that Monahan has issues with drugs should be banned from posting here. I know him casually. The guy barely even drinks and most definitely does not have a drug problem. He has had a hard time with injuries and they have caught up with him on the ice. He's a fantastic person off the ice and a very well liked teammate.

I don't wear Homer goggles and Monahan likely has negative value at this point. Of course I also felt the same about Keith and Stepan, so who knows?

 

[The Duck Knight]

Steel + a mid round pick could interest the Ducks. They're probably going to need a mid 6 center if Getzlaf retires and can afford to see if Monahan rebounds. Sell him at the next deadline if he does or let him walk.

 

[HuGort]

Until 2019-2020, Monahan's career pace was at 0.77 points per game. Since then, he has been hampered by injuries and has played at 0.57 PPG pace. To be fair, this season he has played in a largely bottom 6 role for Calgary but still gets PP1 time. He has one year left at 6.375M after this year and a 10 team NTC.

It's pretty clear to me that the Flames are ready to move on from Monahan this summer, what is his value with one year left on his contract? Keep in mind Calgary does not have a history of retaining salary on expiring deals, so it is unlikely that will occur if Monahan is moved.

Flames probably have to part with a first to move that contract. But it would let them sign both Gaudreau and Mangiapane

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Flames probably have to part with a first to move that contract. But it would let them sign both Gaudreau and Mangiapane

That's troll, it cost a 2nd to move 1 year of Anton Stralman, why would it cost a 1st to move a better player?

 

[HuGort]

That's troll, it cost a 2nd to move 1 year of Anton Stralman, why would it cost a 1st to move a better player?

Caproom projected to be tightest ever this summer.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Caproom projected to be tightest ever this summer.

That changes nothing

 

[Traptor]

Is he overpaid? Definitely.
His offensive production os down and will probably never be where it was.

But he is still the 3C of a top team this year. He has been been defensively sound, has solid metrics, he's good in the dot, good teammate and leader( A since 15-16), play up and down the lineup, and, only 1 year left @27.
I can gurantee some team will take the risk and buy cheap (free or get a small add to take him).
Calgary won't retain with their cap situations.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

10 team no trade, 3500 person stadium Arizona will be on there unfortunately.

Ottawa makes sense. Lots of cap, guy has history in the city, Ottawa has a surplus of picks. Would do it for one of the third rounders they have, whichever one is worst.

Ottawa has 11 players signed at ~$50mil. So, assuming we have a similar budget as this year, that leaves us about $15-17mil.

Norris ($5-7.5m) & Formenton ($2.5-4m) need to be re-signed, which leaves anywhere from $3.5-10mil to sign 8 other guys.

All that is to say this: I find it very hard to believe Ottawa would bring in Monahan without shedding salary elsewhere, be it in a trade with Calgary or through other measures.

Best offer I would make is Monahan for MDZ + BOS 3rd.